HOW TO ( almost ) END CRIME IN AMERICA

As someone said to me.
"Ya know, libertarians often make some sense in their proposals,
however, then, for no apparent reason,
they just journey into outer space"

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OSDavid - I have to disagree with you.

Some gun laws are needed.
Restricting firearm ownership from felons,

Most respectfully, Jim,
may I inquire,

If felons are willing to ignore the laws against ROBBERY;
if felons are willing to disregard the laws against MURDER,
HOW can we convince them to OBEY "gun control" laws ?

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the mentally unstable, and minors should continue.

In your opinion,
will anyone decide: " Well, I am crazy; therefore, I will not get a gun " ?

When I was 8, I went to Phoenix, Arizona. The kids in my
neighborhood ( older & younger than I was ) took delight in target
shooting with rifles n handguns at the YMCA, out on the desert,
or in the forested mountains. We shot Thompson Submachineguns
at the National Guard; (my neighbor was a captain).

Over a period of 5 years that I was a resident,
there was never any trouble,
no complaints of anyone of any age exhibiting bad manners with firearms.

More people were killed by Ted Kennedy's car, than by any of our guns.

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But I do agree with you that restrictions to law abiding adult citizens is unconstitutional.

May I point out that the Bill of Rights
simply deprives government of jurisdiction
to legislate in certain areas of life ( including religion and possession of guns ).


The Bill of Rights does not say that when a criminal
chooses to rob and kill a person under the age of majority,
the victim must let him DO it.
Any citizen, of any age, needs the tools to fight back.
U can 't do the job without the tools.

If we were to decide that children have no right to defend their lives,
then that is the same as saying that the death penalty applies to just being YOUNG,
in the discretion of any murder who opts to kill them.

About a century ago,
children were widely taught safety in handling guns, at an early age; no big deal.



It seems to me,
that the right to defend your life ( or other property )
is even more important than your right to vote or to start a newspaper.


David

Oh! david... I have no qualms with your posts... but for your obsession, for wanting, everybody to own a gun in the USA, plus, your blindness to any others who have a opposite views, your silly arguments in trying to prove your obsessional blinkered posts do nothing to help you in other than make one amazed at your dedication to the gun lobby in the USA.. a groupe, I believe, religiously paid for, by the gun manufacturers, for a very small minoritys huge profits.

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Oh! david... I have no qualms with your posts...

Thank u; very nice of u.

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but for your obsession, for wanting, everybody to own a gun in the USA,
plus, your blindness to any others who have a opposite views,

I am not blind to them.

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your silly arguments

Which ones were " silly " ?

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in trying to prove your obsessional blinkered posts do nothing to help you

I don 't need help for myself.
I 've been fairly well armed since age 8,
quite a few decades ago.
I desire my fellow citizens to be as well taken care of,
and to have a society in America based upon radical self reliance,
rather than upon the collective/state.
I promote radical INDIVIDUALISM, LIBERTARIANISM and HEDONISM as well as I can.

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in other than make one amazed at your dedication to the gun lobby in the USA..

In the exercise of my democratic rights ( see First Amendment US Constitution )
I am an active part of the gun lobby,
and have been for quite a few years. I donate cash to it.
This movement is anti-socialist, and very worthy of support and gratitude
from all real Americans.

By assuring an armed populace,
the Founders physically put sovereignty into the hands of the citizens.
US Supreme Ct Justice Joseph Story (1811-1845) expressed it:
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered
as the Palladium of the liberties of the republic since it offers a strong moral check
against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers;
and will generally...enable the people to resist and triumph over them."

His view was adopted by the US Supreme Ct in US v. MILLER (1939) 3O7 US 174
together with that of Judge Thomas Cooley who reiterated that idea, adding:
"The meaning of the provision...is that the people ...shall have the right to keep and bear arms
and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose." [emfasis added by David]
The Constitution no more allows any government to control guns
than to edit the Bible or control who has one.

Maybe u think that sovereignty in the citizens
instead of in government, is " silly " as u like to put it ?

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a groupe, I believe, religiously paid for, by the gun manufacturers,
for a very small minoritys huge profits.

( If u really BELIEVE that about the " huge profits "
then I am sure that u r heavily invested in their corporate stock, right, Anton ? )


As a supporter of l'aissez faire free market capitalism,
I hope that thay will FLOURISH financially.

The gun industry is very small.
I speak up for FREEDOM and against collectivist docility.
I speak up against government USURPING prohibited authority
and degenerating, permanently, into a tyranny that allows elections
only so long as it is in the mood for it.

The original political theory upon which this republic was founded
was that it 'd be absolutely impossible for government to take over the country
because the citizens were armed to the teeth,
and overwhelmingly stronger than their hireling government.
( see the Federalist Papers )

David

Dave......All of them are silly.

You are my Favorite clown.....

Go to bed david.

Get a good nights sleep and it will all look better in the morning.

I don't think David's ideas are any more idiotic than having insurance companies deciding on patients' treatment rather than doctors, allowing lobbyists to legally pay off politicians to get whatever laws THEY want passed, or allowing violent offenders out of jail after short stays while drug offenders rot in prison.

F*cking country's going to hell in a handbasket anyway. I'm not convinced his ideas would make things any worse than they are, and in some cases, I think they might actually improve things.

Merry Christmas.