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Get yer polls, bets, numbers & pretty graphs! Elections 2008

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 12:47 pm
A little mentioned surprise result from the primaries on Tuesday: two of the pollsters that were conspicuously off some previous times did very well. Kudos to Zogby and PPP -- this time Survey USA had the wrong end of the stick.

Maybe a confirmation for the theory that it's much better to look at the average of all polls, even as outliers will drag it up or down sometimes, than to try to identify a winning 'reputable' pollster. The race so far has shown different pollsters, including both the better known ones and the more obscure ones, regularly take turns at being among those who got closest and those who were way off. It's still wise to take one or the other poll that seems to be all over the place with more of a grain of salt than others, but unfortunately there doesnt seem to be an overall way to separate good pollsters from bad ones.


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Zogby is One of the Night's (Other) Big Winners

Certainly the news media is emphasizing that Obama is the night's big winner. But as I noted earlier, there were five pollsters who released polls in both states in the last few days and they didn't always make the same predictions. I've reproduced the figure from that post here, but added the actual results from tonight's voting (at least as they stand now, with 99% reporting in both states).


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As you can see, Survey USA was the night's big loser, at least as far as pollsters go. They were estimating a good night for Clinton, including a 12% win in Indiana and a mere 5% win for Obama in North Carolina. On the opposite end, Zogby was the big winner. Zogby came closest to the North Carolina result by predicting a 14% victory for him in that state. Zogby was also the only pollster to have predicted an Obama win in Indiana, though Clinton ended up winning by about that margin. Of course, lest any pollster get a big head, these pollsters have been in the opposite positions (Zogby as the big loser and Survey USA as the big winner) in earlier primaries this year.

UPDATE: I should've added that Public Policy Polling was also fairly accurate relative to the other pollsters and, unlike Zogby, they had the winner right in both states.

UPDATE: Who needs polls? As one of our readers points out:

"Probabay the best prediction was Poblano at the 538 website, who's demographic model predicted Obama +18 in NC (final was +15), and Clinton +2 in Indiana (right on). Poblano also came very close in Penn."
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 01:00 pm
I reckon it was on Wednesday on NPR that I heard a political story that talked about the candidates, delegates and the conventions. One sentence leapt out at me, partially because it seemed unrelated to the rest of the story. The quote from someone went something like this:
"The anti-war demonstrations at the Republican convention will be unlike anything seen in the U.S since Vietnam." I am not sure that will be true and I am not suggesting it would be "good" or "bad."
But it certainly strikes me as plausible.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 03:11 pm
The WSJ had some interesting tidbits from the exit polls:

    "only about half of voters in both states said Sen. Clinton was honest and trustworthy. Two-thirds said that about Sen. Obama. In North Carolina, of the people who voted for Sen. Clinton, about three in 10 said she wasn't honest and trustworthy."
Think about this for a moment. Half the voters in the Democratic primary didn't think Clinton is honest and trustworthy. Even of her own voters, a third didnt think she is.

    "More than a third of Indiana voters and four in 10 North Carolina voters said Sen. Clinton doesn't share their values. For Sen. Obama, a third in Indiana and three in 10 in North Carolina said he doesn't share their values."
A month and a half of Rev. Wright business later. An endless debate about how "bittergate" showed how Obama was aloof, elitist and out of touch with regular people later. After a relentless drumbeat of Clinton campaign moves, from robocalls and mailers about how Obama is against gun rights to Clinton downing a shot at a local PA bar, meant to buttress the impression that she's 'of the people' and he isnt. Still marginally more voters said that Hillary doesnt share their values than that Obama doesnt.

Even leaving the whole whites vs blacks debate aside, there's some good news for Hillary too though. Once more she was the one who 'closed' better:

    "Sen. Clinton [..] did well with late-deciders, particularly in Indiana. Almost 60% of those who made their choice in the past three days voted for her. In North Carolina, exit polls found Sen. Clinton winning more of those who didn't decide for whom to vote until Tuesday."
And considering the skrocketing share of voters who call the economy their overriding political concern, the stubbornness of this patter cant be reassuring for Obama:

    "Tracking a pattern that has been established in earlier contests, voters most concerned with the economy in Indiana favored Sen. Clinton, while those most concerned with the war in Iraq picked Sen. Obama."
Finally, one for the continuing race vs gender debate:

    "As was true in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Sen. Clinton's gender helped her, while Sen. Obama's race appeared to hurt him. Voters who said race was important and voters who said gender was important to their votes both favored Sen. Clinton."
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 03:12 pm
An election night observation that's well worth highlighting:

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Obama's Popular Vote Gains Tonight Wipe Out Hillary Gains In Pennsylvania

The Hillary campaign was hoping, at a minimum, that tonight's two contests would more or less cancel each other out, thus keeping it not out of the realm of possibility that she could ultimately close the popular vote gap, including Florida, with a string of future wins.

Those hopes have been dealt a pretty severe blow tonight.

Not only were Indiana and North Carolina not a wash, but Obama's popular vote gains tonight have effectively wiped out her pop vote gains from her resounding win in Pennsylvania.

With 99% reporting in North Carolina, Obama is ahead by about 233,000 votes. Subtract from that the 20,000 that Obama is now trailing by in Indiana, with 92% reporting, and you have roughly a 213,000 gain for Obama.

Hillary won Pennsylvania by 214,000 -- a gain that has now been erased.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 05:46 pm
fishin wrote:
They are of interest to me! I suppose I should prolly say that more often. Embarrassed

I find this to be a lot nmore informative than reading poll results on CNN and such. Comparing the poll results to each other as well as the rolling history of each gives a much clearer picture of shifts.



What he said.

It's also interesting to view the actual questions asked by each of the pollsters and what the different nuances produce in poll results.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 07:53 pm
Thanks Butrflynet!

I'm having this conversation on TPM with someone who thinks that the polls and primary results have shown Obama's appeal to be fatally flawed among white working class voters, and I've gone into some stuff that I haven't posted about yet here.

For example how in Pennsylvania, after a month of Wright and "bittergate", Obama actually did better among whites, among voters without college degrees, and among lower-income voters than he'd done in Ohio. And how after another two weeks of that, he did better again among those groups in Indiana than he'd done in Pennsylvania:

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The only states since Wright have been PA, IN and NC ... Thing is - and I really hadn't dared hope for that - he hasn't done any worse in them among whites than he did in the pre-Wright states.

Obama got 40% of whites in Indiana and 37% of whites in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. On average, in all of the states that there have been exit polls for so far, he has received 38% of the white vote.

Ohio was before Wright: Obama got just 34% of the whites there. So he's actually improved his score in comparison in the two neighbouring states that have voted since.

That comparison is imperfect, of course, but the differences seem small enough. E.g., 21% of the total population of Ohio has a college degree while 22% of Pennsylvanians does, according to the 2000 census data; and 40% of the overall households in Ohio has an income over %50,000, while 39% of those in PA does. So when you're talking class, these states seem fairly comparable. Yet despite a month and a half of uproar over Wright and "bittergate", Obama actually did slightly better among whites in PA than in OH, and slightly better still in IN.

Someone in The Nation crunched the numbers for the comparison between these three Midwestern states. As it turns out, it's not just among whites that Obama actually improved his score even as the Wright thing played out. He got more of the voters without college degree in Pennsylvania than he'd gotten in Ohio; and more again in Indiana than he'd gotten in Pennsylvania. He got more of the voters from >$50,000 households in Pennsylvania than he'd gotten in Ohio; and more again in Indiana than he'd gotten in Pennsylvania.

In the Midwest, the Wright uproar apparently has not made Obama's appeal among working class voters collapse - far from it. The fact that even in the face of that and "bittergate", he actually made inroads into Hillary's lower-education, lower-income base tells me he'll be a resilient enough Democratic candidate.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2008 07:56 pm
I also wanted to push back against this notion of Obama's white support consisting just of "elitist white liberals":

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You are talking like only elite liberals ever vote for Obama. But many working class Democrats already vote for Obama.

He won 46% of the voters with no college degree in Indiana, and considering blacks made up less than 1 in 5 Dem voters there that's not just a question of African American support. (He won 56% of them in North Carolina).

Or look at income. In Indiana, voters from households with an income of less than $50,000 broke clean down the middle - 50% each to Hillary and Barack. And again, that's in a state where less than 1 in 5 voters was black.
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Of course [..] the disparity in income between whites and blacks obviously would make black voters overrepresented among the lower-income voters. But [still] blacks only made up a fifth of the voters in Indiana. So if Obama won half of the lower-income votes and almost half of the voters without college degree, that's simply not just a black thing.

I mean, those without college degree made up 65% of the electorate in Indiana. Obama won almost half of them - i.e., a third of the whole electorate was lower-education voters for Obama. Considering black voters made up less than a fifth of the electorate and they hardly all lack a college degree, that means that blacks cant have made up more than about half of those. The other half were white working class voters for Obama. There's plenty of them.

There's no question that Hillary does better among white working class voters than him. My point's just that there's still way too many that do support Obama to justify all this talk about how it's just white elite liberals who vote for Obama. You hear it a lot, and it really starts to grate.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 05:24 am
Yep, definitely grates. Nicely laid out.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 07:20 am
Brian Schaffner of the CCPS neatly presents the data of just how overwhelmingly high the turnout for the Democratic primaries has been -- and in Indiana and North Carolina, it was higher than ever.

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The (Very) High Turnout in North Carolina and Indiana

One thing about yesterday's primaries that deserves further attention is the high turnout for the Democratic primaries in both states. Generally, primary turnout tends to lag far behind general election turnout. Therefore, one statistic really jumped out at me about yesterday's primaries: in both contests, turnout in the Democratic primary exceeded the number of votes Kerry won in the states in the general election. In North Carolina, over 67,000 more voters voted in the Democratic primary than cast votes for Kerry in 2004. This is particularly impressive given that North Carolina has a semi-closed primary, where Republican registrants could not participate in the Democratic primary. In Indiana, which has an open primary, over one-quarter of a million more Hoosiers voted in the Democratic primary than voted for Kerry in 2004. And Rush Limbaugh can't take credit for this gap. The exit polls indicated that 10% of Democratic primary voters identified themselves as Republicans. Even if you subtract this group from the turnout figure, Democratic participation still would've out-paced Kerry's vote by well over 100,000.

How did this play out in other primaries? The figure below plots these numbers. The diagonal line shows the point at which Democratic primary turnout and the 2004 vote for Kerry are equal. As you can see, Texas is the only other state where Democratic turnout exceeded Kerry's 2004 vote, though many other states had totals that approached the 2004 Kerry vote.


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Posted by Brian Schaffner
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 02:45 pm
Rasmussen to end tracking of the Democratic primary:
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" . . .while Senator Clinton has remained close and competitive in every meaningful measure, she is a close second and the race is over. It has become clear that Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

At the moment, Senator Clinton's team is busily trying to convince Superdelegates and pundits that she is more electable than Barack Obama. For reasons discussed in a separate article, it doesn't matter. Even if every single Superdelegate was convinced that the former First Lady is somewhat more electable than Obama, that is not enough of a reason to deny him the nomination.

With this in mind, Rasmussen Reports will soon end our daily tracking of the Democratic race and focus exclusively on the general election competition between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Barring something totally unforeseen, that is the choice American voters will have before them in November. While we have not firmly decided upon a final day for tracking the Democratic race, it is coming soon. . . ."

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 03:35 pm
Oh wow!
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 05:37 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Rasmussen to end tracking of the Democratic primary:

Aw you beat me to it Razz

I was pretty taken aback by that! In a good way, of course :wink:
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 05:42 pm
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Glee For The Democrats In Congress

Marc Ambinder
2 May 2008

For a while, the political world made gravy over the low congressional approving ratings. Republicans have argued that the Democrats controlling Congress will pay a price for the relative inability of the New Direction congress to pass legislation (which, of course, the Democrats chalk up to Republican obstructionism.)

A sheaf of polls suggest that the low approval ratings are not hurting Democratic congressional candidates. The generic ballot averages 15 points, precisely where it was in October of 2006. In some of the special elections for House seats, Democratic turnout is way up and Republican turnout is way down. The stability of the 15 point margin is also significant. The Republicans had a massive election win in 1994. Two years later that intensity had largely dissipated, and Clinton was re-elected and the change in Congressional seats was relatively minor. All the indicators so far (and again, it's early) suggest that 2006 was not 1994, and Democrats in a position to hold their own and gain seats. Which means, of course, that the next president, Democrat or Republican, had better prepare for at least two years of a Democratic congress.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 05:48 pm
nimh wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
Rasmussen to end tracking of the Democratic primary:

Aw you beat me to it Razz


Rasmussen's daily tracking poll had fittingly positive numbers for Obama today to go with this message by the way: Obama up 3 points and Hillary down 1 in a day.

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In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama holds a 50% to 42% advantage over Clinton nationally. That's the first time Obama has reached the 50% level of support since April 15


The Gallup daily tracking poll, on the other hand, isnt having it:

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According to Gallup Poll Daily tracking, Democratic voters remain closely divided in their presidential nomination preferences, with 48% favoring Barack Obama and 46% backing Hillary Clinton.

These results are based on May 6-8 interviewing, with roughly two-thirds of the interviews completed after the results of the North Carolina and Indiana primaries were known. The discussion among political experts following Obama's big North Carolina win and Clinton's slim Indiana victory has centered on when, not if, Clinton will drop out of the nomination contest. [..]

Despite this talk, Obama remains in a statistical dead heat with Clinton for the 16th consecutive day. After a stronger showing in Wednesday's interviewing, Obama just barely edged out Clinton in Thursday interviewing, leaving him with just a two percentage point advantage in the three-day rolling average that also includes Tuesday's night-of-primary interviewing. Saturday's update will be the first to include completely post-Indiana/North Carolina interviewing.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 07:56 pm
Another good (?) sign, the Republican National Committee officially opened up their general election campaign against Obama today.


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http://www.rnc.org/
http://net.gop.com/canweask/
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 08:17 pm
The WaPo has a neat little interactive Electoral College Prediction Map for the general elections - maybe they've had it for a while, I didnt see it yet.

I was using the one at 270towin.com, but this one's neater - you got basic info appearing as you roll over states, and they even split Maine and Nebraska up to reflect how the system works differently there.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 08:47 pm
nimh wrote:
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Someone in The Nation crunched the numbers for the comparison between these three Midwestern states.


Here's the relevant excerpt from that article from the Nation, by Ari Melber (though on review it wasnt he himself who crunched the numbers):

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Key Voting Blocs Boost Obama in Indiana

[..] In Indiana, Obama improved his support across several key demographics, despite a bruising month of attacks on his pastor, patriotism and populism.

Compared to Ohio and Pennsylvania, he generally drew more votes from white women, Catholics, gun owners, households earning under $50,000 annually, voters prioritizing the economy, and voters without a college degree. A Democratic field operative sent in this graph of Obama's performance in the three states:


http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-05-07-Picture3.png

<snip>


Still got a cool related graph in my bookmarks as well. On the one hand, it's a bit stale, because it only compares the Ohio and Pennsylvania results (it's from April). On the other hand, the graph itself is more detailed and more clear (this one you can click to enlarge):

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How much are campaigns mattering?

Monday, April 28, 2008
Enik Rising

I heard Bill Schneider on CNN on the night of the Pennsylvania primary making some argument that there was very little evidence of campaign effects. He compared the exit polls from Ohio with those from Pennsylvania and noted that Obama's and Clinton's support from key demographic groups was pretty similar between the two states. And in the end, Clinton won both states by around 10 points. All the stuff that happened in the intervening six weeks, notably including Obama's "bitter" statement, appeared to have no effect.


http://bp1.blogger.com/_4sXMy2Ey8lQ/SBZGOQ9U64I/AAAAAAAAAMQ/K-sA5wXNoIA/s320/oh+and+pa+demos.png


A quick check of the exit polls largely supports Schneider's assertion. Note what's going on in this scatterplot; each data point marks how Obama did among a demographic group in both states. The line is x=y; if a point lies along that line, Obama did the same in one state as he did in the other. For most of the groups, there's not much movement. (The two votes correlate at .85) Actually, there's a bit of improvement for Obama between Ohio and Pennsylvania. But there are a few negative outliers. Obama did notably worse among union members, frequent churchgoers, and white Catholics in Pennsylvania than he did in Ohio six weeks earlier.

This is far from an exhaustive look at the demographics, but it does tend to suggest relative stability from one state to the next. Which would mean that you could probably predict the candidates' performances in the upcoming states simply by knowing the share of the electorate that each of these demographic subgroups comprises.

This is, in one sense, evidence against campaign effects. All the day-to-day noise about Jeremiah Wright and bitter voters and guns and bowling doesn't seem to be moving the vote much. On the other hand, the extent to which each of these demographic subgroups actually turns out to vote does matter and can be influenced by campaigns.

The tentative lesson: GOTV matters more than persuasion.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2008 08:55 pm
nimh wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
I forget where I saw it but the view that Hillary does better (or Obama worse) than she polls is not backed up by the overall statistics.

Depends. Lately she certainly does. But is it inherently Clinton doing better than polled for - you know, undecided voters breaking for the safer choice, maybe a bit of Bradley/Wilder effect? Or is it just the winner of the primary outdoing the polls - a winner's bonus, sort of?

RealClearPolitics.com has one of the better sets of tables with all the available polling data by state. And unlike the more cautious Pollster.com, which deals only in trendlines, they do running averages, which means that for each state you can see what the average Clinton or Obama lead was in the very last polls that appeared. See the page for Pennsylvania as example.

Mining those pages for a quick overview, you see Hillary repeatedly outdoing the polls lately:

    [u]Pennsylvania[/u] Final Results, Clinton +9.2 Polls average, Clinton +6.1 [u]Ohio[/u] Final Results, Clinton +10.1 Polls average, Clinton +7.1 [u]Texas[/u] Final Results, Clinton +3.5 Polls average, Clinton +1.7 [u]Rhode Island[/u] Final Results, Clinton +18.0 Polls average, Clinton +9.7

Clinton outdoes the polls every time! But these are also all states she won, so we're still no wiser whether it's something about her vs Barack, or more like a generic winner's bonus.

Go back further in time:

    [u]Wisconsin[/u] Final Results, Obama +17.4 Polls average, Obama +4.3 [u]Virginia[/u] Final Results, Obama +28.2 Polls average, Obama +17.7 [u]Maryland[/u] Final Results, Obama +23.5 Polls average, Obama +22.3

Now it's Obama outdoing the polls every time! A winner's bonus, then?

Back to Super Tuesday:

    [u]California[/u] Final Results, Clinton +9.6 Polls average, Obama +1.2 [u]New York[/u] Final Results, Clinton +17.5 Polls average, Clinton +17.2 [u]Illinois[/u] Final Results, Obama +31.5 Polls average, Obama +33.0 [u]New Jersey[/u] Final Results, Clinton +9.8 Polls average, Clinton +7.7 [u]Massachusetts[/u] Final Results, Clinton +15.4 Polls average, Clinton +7.0 [u]Georgia[/u] Final Results, Obama +35.3 Polls average, Obama +18.0 [u]Missouri[/u] Final Results, Obama +1.2 Polls average, Clinton +5.7 [u]Tennessee[/u] Final Results, Clinton +13.3 Polls average, Clinton +13.0 [u]Arizona[/u] Final Results, Clinton +8.8 Polls average, Clinton +6.0 [u]Alabama[/u] Final Results, Obama +14.1 Polls average, Clinton +1.2 [u]Connecticut[/u] Final Results, Obama +3.1 Polls average, Clinton +4.0

And the pre-Super Tuesday states:

    [u]South Carolina[/u] Final Results, Obama +28.9 Polls average, Obama +11.6 [u]Nevada[/u] Final Results, Clinton +5.5 Polls average, Clinton +4.0 [u]New Hampshire[/u] Final Results, Clinton +2.6 Polls average, Obama +8.3 [u]Iowa[/u] Final Results, Obama +7.8 Polls average, Obama +1.6

Time to test the hypotheses.

Obama/Clinton

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for Clinton than it had been in the last polls in 11 states

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for Obama than it had been in the last polls in 9 states

No significant difference between result and polling in 2 states.

Winner/loser

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for the candidate who had been ahead than it had been in the last polls in 14 states

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for the candidate who had been behind than it had been in the last polls in 6 states

No significant difference between result and polling in 2 states.

Conclusion

You're right, Hillary has not been outperforming the polls significantly more often than Obama. That's just what's happened in the last batch of primaries (or at least the primaries that actually had sufficient polling to say something about it, which excludes MS, WY, DC and VT). That might signify a new trend, but since Hillary won all those states as well, it could equally well just be a question of there being a winner's bonus.

There has been such a winner's bonus in 14 out of the 22 above states: a little less than 2 out of 3 times. Still hardly a foolproof trend. But it bears mentioning that the 8 exceptions were 7 Super Tuesday states and New Hampshire. A lot of unexpected reversals on Super Tuesday (CA, MO, AL, CT). In the states since Super Tuesday the winner's bonus has been a given. [..]


We can update this list now:

    [u]North Carolina[/u] Final Results, Obama +14.7 Polls average, Obama +8.0 [u]Indiana[/u] Final Results, Clinton +1.4 Polls average, Clinton +5.0

Which means the evaluation of the hypotheses gets updated as follows:

Obama/Clinton

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for Clinton than it had been in the last polls in 11 states

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for Obama than it had been in the last polls in 11 states

No significant difference between result and polling in 2 states.

Winner/loser

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for the candidate who had been ahead than it had been in the last polls in 15 states

Margin in the final results was at least 1% more favourable for the candidate who had been behind than it had been in the last polls in 7 states

No significant difference between result and polling in 2 states.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 10 May, 2008 07:32 pm
Back in mid-March, a couple of weeks after the primaries in Texas, Ohio etc, I wrote a set of four posts analysing "the return of the class gap". I dug into the exit poll data by education, and included a table, maps and a graph.

Now that PA, NC and IN have voted, I wanted to post an update of the data.

First thing that's noteworthy is how the results of this round of primaries compare with those of previous rounds. Mind you, it's odd sets of states that one is combining, of course. IN, PA and NC form a relatively cohesive set, but the March 4+11 states, ranging from the Hillary-friendly states of Ohio and Rhode Island to Texas to the very different but both very Obama-friendly states of Vermont and Mississippi, are a varied set. On the other hand, you could argue that because of that, they were pretty representative of the US as a whole, just like the Super Tuesday states.

So how does the comparison work out?


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1148/demsbyeducation4ben2.png


Noteworthy: the results from the last three states, broken down by education, are extremely similar to those from the March states. Down to just one point difference! That makes you marvel, again, at how static this race has been. And just how little effect, despite all the endless hyping by the media, passing affairs like Wright, Tuzla, "Bittergate" and the debates have had.

Basically, what we're seeing here is that on the whole, Obama continued to keep a modest edge among college grads, and Hillary continued to keep a narrow lead among those without college degree. Compared to Obama's mid-February surge on and around the Potomac primaries, this is a setback for him. But compared to Super Tuesday, a more favourable pattern holds: he remained stable among college grads, but minimized his deficit among those without college degree.

Re the old debate about whether Obama's initial disadvantage among working class voters was a question of his message not appealing to them or their being low-infomation voters who only caught on as the race became everpresent, this is something of a stalemate. He did caught on among non-college educated voters more as time went by, even when the brief mid-February surge faded, but still only closed the gap halfway. So a bit of both - plus, of course, Obama also adjusted his campaign focus and tone over time.

Now let's break it down by state, because there's a fair amount of randomness to these collections above. Here's the updated, full state-by-state table:


http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3880/demsbyeducation4jz2.png


The latest three states are highlighted in yellow; the March primaries are highlighted in green. The states are sorted by Obama's performance among non-college educated voters.

The listing confirms the impression from the Nation and Enik Rising charts two posts up, that Obama's made some progress, if rather minor progress.

In North Carolina, Obama did a little worse among both college grads and non-college educated voters than in Mississippi. But considering that blacks made up half the voters in MS and just a third in NC, the difference is quite small. (This is because he did much better among whites than in in MS.)

As for the Midwest, you see here what Melber and Enik Rising showed above: Obama did a little better among non-college educated voters in Pennsylvania than he'd done in Ohio, and a little better still in Indiana than in PA. Among college grads there's no such neat trend: he did actually a little worse among those in PA than in OH, but improved significantly on both in IN.

All in all, Obama did about average among non-college educated voters in Pennsylvania and Indiana. His performance there ranks 15th and 18th in the list of 31 states we have exit poll data for. In North Carolina he did very well, but this is probably largely because of the high number of African-American Obama voters there, who tend to be less likely to be college grads. He did less well than in Maryland and Virginia though, which have comparable black populations; this is probably because he did less well among white voters than he'd done in those two states in the Potomac primaries.

Take a look at what I dubbed the "class gap": the difference between the lead or deficit that Obama had on Hillary among those without college degree, and that which he had among those with a degree.

This "class gap" was non-existent in North Carolina, just like it had been very low or even inversed in other states with a large number of black voters (South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Virginia and Maryland). In these states, Obama's two core groups of support, higher-education whites and African-American voters, weigh in to equal effect on the two sides of the education divide.

More interesting is that the "class gap" was also relatively small in PA and IN. Lower than average in PA, and just about average in IN. The four states with the highest class gap were all Super Tuesday states. That's an illustration of how Obama did close his deficit among lower-education voters at least half the way.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 10 May, 2008 07:40 pm
My word
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