Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas?

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=IAckfn8yiAQ

Happy Winter Solstice all!

As is abundantly clear, Christmas as touted by Christians is simply a fraction of the overall Winter Solstice celebrations. Christians have no proprietary claim.

A rational response to your post cannot be forthcoming given your lack of coherency.

since the grinch stole my new years greetings , i'll give it another try .
in germany a GLUECKS SCHWEIN (LUCKY PIG) is always considered a must for the new year .
so , i hope this little piggy will bring you lots of luck for 2008 !
hbg

Chumly wrote:

Happy Winter Solstice all!

As is abundantly clear, Christmas as touted by Christians is simply a fraction of the overall Winter Solstice celebrations. Christians have no proprietary claim.

Again, you miss the point and come up with your non sequitor strawmen. You are confusing other celebrations with CHRISTmas. Just because others celebrate other things, you cannot ignore or make untrue statements that Christmas as celebrated by Christians (and many others) is a celebration in honour of the birth of Christ. Regardless of what the actual date of His birth may be.

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate as such.

i'm glad DAVID found the GLUECKS SCHWEIN . so i'll add another one , because DOPPELT HAELT BESSER ( DOUBLE MAKES THINGS STRONGER ) and should bring even MORE luck - or let's use this for GOOD HEALTH !
hbg

Intrepid wrote:

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=IAckfn8yiAQ

That " happy holiday " nonsense is a way to grudgingly acknowledge
Christmas's existence, while downplaying it, attempting to drag it down.

If we wish to celebrate Christmas
then we shud honor it by forthrightly exulting in it, declaring its name,
as we have always DONE.

It is also a good way of fighting against n dragging down political correctness.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE !
David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=IAckfn8yiAQ

That " happy holiday " nonsense is a way to grudgingly acknowledge
Christmas's existence, while downplaying it, attempting to drag it down.

If we wish to celebrate Christmas
then we shud honor it by forthrightly exulting in it, declaring its name,
as we have always DONE.

It is also a good way of fighting against n dragging down political correctness.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE !
David

Quote:

Nobody has made an argument from political correctness here.
For someone who demands personal (individual) freedom,
you certainly seem prepared to deny other's that right.

Weak.

Happy Holidays all the same.

T
K
O

Your post implies ( falsely )
that I have imposed PRIOR RESTRAINT
upon hapless politically correct types, and stifled them.
That is false.

I have not prevented them from expressing themselves.

David

Your post implies ( falsely )
that I have imposed PRIOR RESTRAINT
upon hapless politically correct types, and stifled them.
That is false.

I have not prevented them from expressing themselves.

That " happy holiday " nonsense is a way to grudgingly acknowledge
Christmas's existence, while downplaying it, attempting to drag it down.

If we wish to celebrate Christmas
then we shud honor it by forthrightly exulting in it, declaring its name,
as we have always DONE.

It is also a good way of fighting against n dragging down political correctness.

hapless politically correct types

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your post implies ( falsely )
that I have imposed PRIOR RESTRAINT
upon hapless politically correct types, and stifled them.
That is false.

I have not prevented them from expressing themselves.

I'm not talking about prior restraint. I know you were a lawyer, and putting things in familiar terms makes it easier to express yourself, but it's far more simple than that. We're not talking about law here.

The only people wishing to impose anything on anyone else is the crowd that demands the use of "Merry Christmas," or more specifically the nonuse of "Happy holidays." You put yourself in this group with the following statement.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

That " happy holiday " nonsense is a way to grudgingly acknowledge
Christmas's existence, while downplaying it, attempting to drag it down.

If we wish to celebrate Christmas
then we shud honor it by forthrightly exulting in it, declaring its name,
as we have always DONE.

Note the misuse of the word "we."

Your statements tell me what I should do. For someone who prides themselves on individual freedom, you're being quite contrary in your statements. Seems your beliefs are flexible, when it's you who is telling someone else what they should do.

Quote:

It is also a good way of fighting against n dragging down political correctness.

Quote:

hapless politically correct types

Lastly, as pointed out several times now,
nobody has made an argument from political correctness here. SO WHAT ??

Your atempt to attach that brand to this argument is pathetic.
THEN U CAN FEEL PATHOS.


I'm sure that argument exists (because I've heard it),
but it has nothing to do with what has been discussed here.
ASK ME IF I CARE.

Even if it had been discussed,
it would have been confined to issues relating to public display etc,
where as most of this thread has focused on the private use of greetings
by companies and individuals in passing.

Like I said before: Weak.
STRONG ENUF FOR MY TASTE

T
K
O

Diest TKO wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your post implies ( falsely )
that I have imposed PRIOR RESTRAINT
upon hapless politically correct types, and stifled them.
That is false.

I have not prevented them from expressing themselves.

I'm not talking about prior restraint. I know you were a lawyer, and putting things in familiar terms makes it easier to express yourself, but it's far more simple than that. We're not talking about law here.

The only people wishing to impose anything on anyone else is the crowd that demands the use of "Merry Christmas," or more specifically the nonuse of "Happy holidays." You put yourself in this group with the following statement.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

That " happy holiday " nonsense is a way to grudgingly acknowledge
Christmas's existence, while downplaying it, attempting to drag it down.

If we wish to celebrate Christmas
then we shud honor it by forthrightly exulting in it, declaring its name,
as we have always DONE.

Note the misuse of the word "we."

Your statements tell me what I should do. For someone who prides themselves on individual freedom, you're being quite contrary in your statements. Seems your beliefs are flexible, when it's you who is telling someone else what they should do.

Quote:

It is also a good way of fighting against n dragging down political correctness.

Quote:

hapless politically correct types

Lastly, as pointed out several times now,
nobody has made an argument from political correctness here. SO WHAT ??

Your atempt to attach that brand to this argument is pathetic.
THEN U CAN FEEL PATHOS.


I'm sure that argument exists (because I've heard it),
but it has nothing to do with what has been discussed here.
ASK ME IF I CARE.

Even if it had been discussed,
it would have been confined to issues relating to public display etc,
where as most of this thread has focused on the private use of greetings
by companies and individuals in passing.

Like I said before: Weak.
STRONG ENUF FOR MY TASTE

T
K
O

I am free to control what I do.
I can freely encourage other celebrants of Christmas
with whatever advice I choose.

I choose to deem that " happy holidays " to be a nullity,
if not an attack upon the preservation of Christmas,
and I am free to act accordingly.

I am free to encourage other celebrants of Christmas
to spend their Christmas shopping cash
in stores that join in the celebration WHOLEHEARTEDLY,
exulting in Christmas BY NAME,
and freely giving offense to all who wish to take offense from it.


I am free to boycott, if I wish,
and to encourage boycotts.
I am free to take cognizance
of the interest that merchants display in the percentages of their Christmas profits.
The merchants wish to profit from Christmas all thay can,
while at the same time, being politically correct; NOT WITH MY MONEY !


The merchants are free to be politically correct,
if that 's what thay wanna do; we don 't have to support political correctness.
I will not support it; let them be politically correct in the poorhouse.

David