Holocaust Denial, American Style

Holocaust Denial, American Style

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's flirtation with those who deny the reality of the Nazi genocide has rightly been met with disgust. But another holocaust denial is taking place with little notice: the holocaust in Iraq. The average American believes that 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the US invasion in March 2003. The most commonly cited figure in the media is 70,000. But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely more than one million.

Zippo wrote:

Holocaust Denial, American Style

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's flirtation with those who deny the reality of the Nazi genocide has rightly been met with disgust. But another holocaust denial is taking place with little notice: the holocaust in Iraq. The average American believes that 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the US invasion in March 2003. The most commonly cited figure in the media is 70,000. But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely more than one million.

Regardless of the correct number of Iraqi civilian casualities, when that number would be disseminated, I don't believe anyone will deny it, or its occurrence. No one is denying or denying the occurrence of the currently thought lower number. There is no denial.

This is not holocaust denial. Those who feel for Iraqi casualties feel for them, regardless of the current number, or any future disseminated number.

You might be misconstruing incorrect counting with denial. I hear no one denying any number.

Foofie wrote:

Zippo wrote:

Holocaust Denial, American Style

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's flirtation with those who deny the reality of the Nazi genocide has rightly been met with disgust. But another holocaust denial is taking place with little notice: the holocaust in Iraq. The average American believes that 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the US invasion in March 2003. The most commonly cited figure in the media is 70,000. But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely more than one million.

Regardless of the correct number of Iraqi civilian casualities, when that number would be disseminated, I don't believe anyone will deny it, or its occurrence. No one is denying or denying the occurrence of the currently thought lower number. There is no denial.

This is not holocaust denial. Those who feel for Iraqi casualties feel for them, regardless of the current number, or any future disseminated number.

You might be misconstruing incorrect counting with denial. I hear no one denying any number.

I see the reason for the post as a wake-up to what the US Government is guilty of.
Perhaps American's would be better served if the citizens accepted what what their leaders have done and strive to bring them to justice at the International Court in the Hague?

anton wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Zippo wrote:

Holocaust Denial, American Style

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's flirtation with those who deny the reality of the Nazi genocide has rightly been met with disgust. But another holocaust denial is taking place with little notice: the holocaust in Iraq. The average American believes that 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the US invasion in March 2003. The most commonly cited figure in the media is 70,000. But the actual number of people who have been killed is most likely more than one million.

Regardless of the correct number of Iraqi civilian casualities, when that number would be disseminated, I don't believe anyone will deny it, or its occurrence. No one is denying or denying the occurrence of the currently thought lower number. There is no denial.

This is not holocaust denial. Those who feel for Iraqi casualties feel for them, regardless of the current number, or any future disseminated number.

You might be misconstruing incorrect counting with denial. I hear no one denying any number.

I see the reason for the post as a wake-up to what the US Government is guilty of.
Perhaps American's would be better served if the citizens accepted what what their leaders have done and strive to bring them to justice at the International Court in the Hague?

Why an international court? How about the Inter-Galactic Court for Inter-Planetary Disputes. Wouldn't that court make more sense, considering the U.S. is involved, and not some nondescript country? Let's be real. The U.S. was effecting what the world body of nations wanted.

Ohhh, ohhh (for those that remember the sitcom, "Car 54 Where Are You," the exclamation was said like Tootie would have said, Muldoon's squad car partner), that's very disheartening that the world doesn't like the U.S. How much of that dislike is envy and jealousy?

Foofie wrote:

Ohhh, ohhh (for those that remember the sitcom, "Car 54 Where Are You," the exclamation was said like Tootie would have said, Muldoon's squad car partner), that's very disheartening that the world doesn't like the U.S. How much of that dislike is envy and jealousy?

Jealous of what, a country with the largest prison population in the world, a country that executes between 60/70 people a year, a country whose government spies on its own citizens, a country that claims to be democratic yet has an unconstitutional Patriot Act and invokes a totally bizarre States Secrets Privilege when it wants to hide something from its citizens; the trouble with America is that it believes its own fiction?
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anton wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Ohhh, ohhh (for those that remember the sitcom, "Car 54 Where Are You," the exclamation was said like Tootie would have said, Muldoon's squad car partner), that's very disheartening that the world doesn't like the U.S. How much of that dislike is envy and jealousy?

Jealous of what, a country with the largest prison population in the world, a country that executes between 60/70 people a year, a country whose government spies on its own citizens, a country that claims to be democratic yet has an unconstitutional Patriot Act and invokes a totally bizarre States Secrets Privilege when it wants to hide something from its citizens; the trouble with America is that it believes its own fiction?
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How about jealousy of a country that while being very young (compared to many other countries) has since the dawn of the 20th century, put a man on the moon,produced enough food to feed itself and the rest of the world, led the way in many medical advances,invented the airplane, used its military might to twice save the world from dictators (and no I am not discounting what our allies did in either world war), provided emergency supplies and disaster relief to anyone that needed it (including our enemies), etc.

Yes, I know that this country has made alot of mistakes in that same time period, but this country is 231 years old and has done more for the world then have countries many hundreds of years older.

Why is that?

Let's be real. The U.S. was effecting what the world body of nations wanted.

Foofie wrote:

Ohhh, ohhh (for those that remember the sitcom, "Car 54 Where Are You," the exclamation was said like Tootie would have said, Muldoon's squad car partner), that's very disheartening that the world doesn't like the U.S. How much of that dislike is envy and jealousy?

Jealous of what, a country with the largest prison population in the world, a country that executes between 60/70 people a year, a country whose government spies on its own citizens, a country that claims to be democratic yet has an unconstitutional Patriot Act and invokes a totally bizarre States Secrets Privilege when it wants to hide something from its citizens; the trouble with America is that it believes its own fiction?
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The U.S. was effecting what the world body of nations wanted.

most of the things you describe are true about a number of countries.

some of the things you describe makes absolutely no sense to covet.

Wherever I have traveled in the past few years, people were more and more resentful of the U.S. People only open up after I tell them repeatedly I am a European citizen. And this first hand experience was unfortunately repeated in a number of countries. Jealousy? Hardly. Try resentment.