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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
ragnel
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 01:48 am
@msolga,
Not a thing, olga, just the usual doom and gloom. I had to go to the local pharmacy to get a prescription filled and stopped to have a coffee while at the mall. Reading the Telegraph, I came across the political cartoon, which seemed to sum up how I felt about it all. Tried to access it when I got home to show you, but good ole' Rupert charges 99c a page to read his paper on line. Say no more.

It depicted a big, fat, Mr Moneybags banker standing in a rowing boat in a raging flood. In the distance the upper part of a house can be seen and near the boat a family are trying to keep their heads above the murky water. Is the banker coming to their rescue? No, he is standing there peeing on them.

Same old same old.

Plenty of sparkling information about who wore what at the Logies. Ho hum.

Rolling Eyes

Feeling much better today, BTW. I think getting my prescription filled helped a lot. No, I don't take uppers; I had run out of my diabetes pills, was not feeling too good and was having a bit of a stress session forcing myself to go up to the mall and get more.

I'm cranky about the money wasted in the schools update scheme. I know that much needed improvements have been made in many cases but there seem to have been so many rorts and unnecessary work done. We are told of the number of staff that will be kept on, doing nothing, until something is finally decided upon with the emmissions trading scheme in a few years time. Why could these people have not been put to good use in helping to oversee the school improvements scheme? Confused

As someone who spent many years in the PS I am not knocking them. There are a lot of bludgers in the public service but there are a lot more intelligent, dedicated and committed hard workers. However, the so-called brains calling the shots are a different matter, entirely. There seems to be a whole lot of a*se-covering and self-aggrandisement going on.

So, what's new about that? Absolutely nothing. No wonder one gets depressed about it all. Laughing

Happy days!
ragnel
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 01:59 am
@ragnel,
dlowan wrote:

Quote:
Ragnel will soon be a ravelled rag.


She was spot on!

The Ravelled Rag Laughing
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 07:44 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

... & on another matter altogether .. I don't believe for a minute that Labor would even be contemplating internet censorship in this country if Rudd wasn't at the helm.

If I sound bitter about Labor, it's because I once held such a strong commitment to all it stood for.

Think of it as the (not quite there yet) end of a long, passionate, committed relationship. You think you're over it, but you still become absolutely furious when you see yet more evidence of betrayal! Wink

I would dearly love to be a Labor voter again, but I simply can't do it now. And it's rather painful. Sad


Like seeing your ex in the street?
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 07:54 am
@dlowan,
Laughing

Nah, the very last bit of passion on that one has been completely snuffed out, I'm afraid, Deb. Gone with the wind. But with Labor, there's this wistful lingering hope that one day ....
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 07:59 am
@dlowan,
Laughing

Nah, the very last bit of passion on that one has been completely snuffed out, I'm afraid, Deb. Gone with the wind. But with Labor, there's this maddening, wistful, lingering hope that one day .... maybe, just maybe? sigh. Ya can't undo all those years of deep & meaningful commitment just like that!Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 08:41 am
@ragnel,
Quote:
Feeling much better today, BTW.


I'm very glad to hear that, ragnel. Smile

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I'm cranky about the money wasted in the schools update scheme. I know that much needed improvements have been made in many cases but there seem to have been so many rorts and unnecessary work done. We are told of the number of staff that will be kept on, doing nothing, until something is finally decided upon with the emmissions trading scheme in a few years time. Why could these people have not been put to good use in helping to oversee the school improvements scheme? Confused


Don't even start me on the school improvement scheme! It is one of my trigger topics! You'll be VERY sorry if I start talking about it, I promise you, ragnel! Wink
But seriously, what a wasted opportunity! What a rort! Aghhh, I can't stand even thinking about it! Neutral
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 08:46 am
@msolga,
... and don't mention "The Education Revolution", either! Shocked Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad Confused

Aghhhhh!

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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 09:14 am
A a bit of comic relief: This week's Clarke & Dawe interview the opposition leader who opposes everything!
Video link on the right hand side of the transcript page. :


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201005/r561900_3404142.jpg

Abbott opposes this week
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 06/05/2010

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2892575.htm
ragnel
 
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Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 09:43 pm
@msolga,
Rolling Eyes
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 8 May, 2010 04:59 pm
@ragnel,
You don't enjoy Clarke & Dawe, ragnel? Surprised
I love them! Very Happy
ragnel
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 12:30 am
@msolga,
Quite the contrary, m'dear! They are very clever.
The rolling eyes referred to the content. Have you noticed that recently, more than ever before, speakers from both sides of the house will suddenly change the subject when hit with an unpalatable question?
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 03:56 pm
@ragnel,
I've noticed they've been doing that, quite vigorously, for some time now. Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 04:25 pm
From this morning's paper: The findings of the latest Herald/Nielsen poll (SMH/Age). I can't say I'm very surprised.
The question, of course, is whether such poll sentiments will translate into votes, come election day. I suspect they won't, well not nearly to this extent, anyway. Where else do disgruntled "traditional" Labor supporters have to go? Most (previously) committed ALP voters couldn't bring themselves to vote Liberal, ever. To the Greens, & the independents? Yes, to some extent, particularly those disappointed with Labor's sell out on climate change & asylum seekers. I'm thinking that the the swinging voters, those who shifted to Labor last election, might be the ones who'll decide the outcome of this election. I'm also thinking that those young, first-time voters who embraced Labor in droves last time (remember Kevin 07 ? ) could could also be a key factor in the election outcome. Anyway, let's see what carrots Rudd & Abbott dangle in front of these folk. I'll bet they'll be the focus of some very heavy campaigning from both major parties. As for Rudd, he appears to have lost his sheen. This coming campaign will be a whole new ball game for him.


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Rudd in freefall: voters lose faith
PHILLIP COOREY CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
May 10, 2010Sydney Morning Herald


http://images.smh.com.au/2010/05/09/1427962/rudd-420x0.jpg

SUPPORT for Kevin Rudd has plunged to record lows and his proposed mining tax has failed to win popular backing, putting more pressure on the federal budget tomorrow to lift the government out of an entrenched election-year slump.

The findings are contained in a Herald/Nielsen poll which indicates that if an election were held now, Labor would lose.

Since the previous poll a month ago, Mr Rudd's approval rating has nosedived 14 percentage points to 45 per cent, while his disapproval rating has skyrocketed 13 points to 49 per cent.

The loss of personal support is the most dramatic for a prime minister in a decade. It marks the first time Mr Rudd, as either opposition leader or prime minister, has had a disapproval rating higher than his approval rating.

The proposed 40 per cent tax on the mining sector's so-called super profits, revealed as the key response to the Henry tax review, failed to prove a vote winner, with 47 per cent opposing the impost, 44 per cent supporting it and 9 per cent undecided.

The only comfort for Labor is that none of the unpopularity has translated into a direct increase in support for the Coalition.

Mr Rudd is regarded as only slightly more trustworthy than his opponent but he also rates higher for untrustworthiness. He is still the preferred prime minister, although that gap has closed by 10 points in a month.

The poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to Saturday night and follows a horror month for the government in which it scrapped the home insulation scheme, binned plans to build 260 childcare centres and endured another interest rate rise. Most damaging of all, it shelved until at least 2013 any attempt to implement an emissions trading scheme.

On a two-party-preferred basis, Labor and the Coalition are even at 50 per cent, compared with 51-49 a month ago. ...<cont>


http://www.smh.com.au/national/rudd-in-freefall-voters-lose-faith-20100509-ulqh.html
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 04:28 pm
@ragnel,
Quote:
Have you noticed that recently, more than ever before, speakers from both sides of the house will suddenly change the subject when hit with an unpalatable question?


The correct etiquette in such circumstances is to look towards the ceiling, arrange the buccinatory muscles of the cheeks and the orbicular muscles around the lips to do their duty, and whistle Lillabullero.

Even the vulgar element in England know that. I suppose Waltzing Matilda would be a justifiable cultural variant.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 04:53 pm
@msolga,
I missed this before & it made me laugh when I saw it just now.
Very funny, the Mad Monk defends those poor, struggling mining companies! Wink :


http://images.theage.com.au/2010/05/06/1420424/moirMay7th1-600x400.jpg

Quote:
Headline: Mining boom to pay for super revolution

...* Miners to be hit with a 40 per cent tax on above normal profits
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 05:57 pm
@msolga,
From yesterday's Sunday AGE:

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Policies overboard
May 9, 2010

By appealing to the middle ground, Rudd risks being outflanked from the left.

REMEMBER the 2020 Summit? Sir Kevin flung open the doors of Parliament and in you all thundered to victoriously reclaim a seat at the table after years of political exile.

Happy days, butcher's paper all round, flow charts aplenty. Australia, you all agreed, would become a compassionate country: inclusive, decent, progressive, reformist, equitable and just. There would be tax reform, a bill of rights, and we'd all sit down and have a serious chinwag about becoming a republic.



Well, it's back out into the cold the lot of you, you baby-boomer, Whitlam-loving pinkos. Sir Kevin no longer requires your services. And leave the magic markers at the door on your way out.

Understandably, the left today might be feeling a tad disillusioned and disenfranchised. The response has been large enough that some Labor MPs, particularly in inner-city electorates, are worried that key elements of their support base have been deserting to the Greens and other minor players.

One prominent Labor backbencher said there was a growing perception that Rudd had sacrificed the aspirations of traditional rank-and-file supporters in a Howard-esque pitch to swinging voters. ...<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/policies-overboard-20100508-ukuf.html
ragnel
 
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Reply Mon 10 May, 2010 02:04 am
@msolga,
Reality sets in.

When the passionate love affair with KR was in full bloom, I was branded a faithless cynic; yea verily, I recall the word 'Liberal' being whispered behind my back - thus my comment last week of not wanting to get involved in political barnies.

I said it then, I'll say it now -
You can't spin gold thread from straw. You can get Rumpelstiltskin to help out for a while, but it will cost you your child before long.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 01:36 am
@ragnel,
It brings me no great joy, ragnel, to see the Labor party slide down & down on the Rudd path. But the alternative is so much worse.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 01:53 am
I didn't cover Labor's Budget speech here. But if you're interested, you can pick up the details via this link.

But I'm really wondering about the Mad Monk's (Liberal) response to it. A Liberal election campaign featuring opposition to the mining tax in a prominant way? Really? Now there's something worth taking a big stand for!
Neutral

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Last night's budget reply speech saw the Opposition Leader vow to block the mining tax, freeze public service jobs for two years, and cut spending on government advertising.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/14/2899367.htm
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 02:02 am
Clarke & Dawe with "Kevin Rudd" on Labor government policies & doings.
(Thank god for Clarke & Dawe! At least we can get some answers! Wink )


Video: Clarke and Dawe put PM to the test
Source: 7.30 Report
Published: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:48 AEST
Expires: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:48 AEST

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/05/13/2898956.htm
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