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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 09:56 pm
@msolga,
And many happy returns of the ego!
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:16 pm
@dlowan,
He lost it?! Shocked

Oh no!
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:22 pm
@msolga,
... I mean Gough without his ego would be like ..... dunno, exactly .... Something very unnatural! Shocked Mind you, he had excellent reason for it! Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:38 pm
Pardon my indulgence. But on this special occasion I think it's OK?:

Gough Whitlam delivers the 1972 ALP Policy Speech at the Blacktown Civic Centre:

http://whitlamdismissal.com/images/72-11-13_blacktown-small.jpg

Quote:

Men and Women of Australia!

The decision we will make for our country on 2 December is a choice between the past and the future, between the habits and fears of the past, and the demands and opportunities of the future. There are moments in history when the whole fate and future of nations can be decided by a single decision. For Australia, this is such a time. It's time for a new team, a new program, a new drive for equality of opportunities: it's time to create new opportunities for Australians, time for a new vision of what we can achieve in this generation for our nation and the region in which we live. It's time for a new government - a Labor Government.

My fellow citizens -

I put these questions to you:

Do you believe that Australia can afford another three years like the last twenty months? Are you prepared to maintain at the head of your affairs a coalition which has lurched into crisis after crisis, embarrassment piled on embarrassment week after week? Will you accept another three years of waiting for next week's crisis, next week's blunder? Will you again entrust the nation's economy to the men who deliberately, but needlessly, created Australia's worst unemployment for ten years? Or to the same men who have presided over the worst inflation for twenty years? Can you trust the last-minute promises of men who stood against these very same proposals for twenty-three years? Would you trust your international affairs again to the men who gave you Vietnam? Will you trust your defences to the men who haven't even yet given you the F-111?

We have a new chance for our nation. We can recreate this nation. We have a new chance for our region. We can help recreate this region.

The war of intervention in Vietnam is ending. The great powers are rethinking and remoulding their relationships and their obligations. Australia cannot stand still at such a time. We cannot afford to limp along with men whose attitudes are rooted in the slogans of the 1950s - the slogans of fear and hate. If we made such a mistake, we would make Australia a backwater in our region and a back number in history. The Australian Labor Party - vindicated as we have been on all the great issues of the past - stands ready to take Australia forward to her rightful, proud, secure and independent place in the future of our region.

And we are determined that the Australian people shall be restored to their rightful place in their own country - as participants and partners in government, as the owners and keepers of the national estate and the nation's resources, as fair and equal sharers in the wealth and opportunities that this nation should offer in abundance to all its people. We will put Australians back into the business of running Australia and owning Australia. We will revive in this nation the spirit of national cooperation and national self-respect, mutual respect between government and people.....
[/b] (etc, etc, etc!)


http://whitlamdismissal.com/speeches/72-11-13_it%27s-time.shtml
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:40 pm
Sigh

http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/cmsImages/pm/Whitlam_Edward/large/A6180_5-12-72-5.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 08:50 am
@Wilso,
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Most of that pressure seems to be coming from the Liberal party. The same party that was in power when Schappelle Corby was facing somewhat dubious charges. I don't remember a lot of pressure being applied in that case.


Let's not forget the Bali Seven, that federal force let leave the country knowing they drug mules and then told the indonesian police so that their punishment would massively more severe - and not their problem. Classy.

And Happy Birthday E.G.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:23 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
Let's not forget the Bali Seven, that federal force let leave the country knowing they drug mules and then told the indonesian police so that their punishment would massively more severe - and not their problem. Classy.


Yeah, I remembered that yesterday, after Wilso's post, hinge. The father of the youngest of that group reported his son's activities to the police in an effort to stop him leaving the country & being involved in the drug trafficking activities. And look what happened. An incredible betrayal by the federal police, particularly given that drug trafficking is punishable by the death penalty under Indonesian law.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 04:29 am
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2009/07/13/1407_cartoon_gallery__600x363,0.jpg
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jul, 2009 07:01 am
@msolga,
Good one!
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 06:20 am
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6720257,00.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2009 02:21 am
@msolga,
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It is understood the detainees in question are six Uighurs, who are Muslims from north-western China. Australia refused in January to accept them after a similar request from the Bush administration in December - the second time a Bush administation request about Guantanamo inmates was rebuffed.




I'm starting to warm to the idea of those Uighur refugees. Hell, I wouldn't want to be sent back to China, either, if I was them!



Chinese hack into film festival site
Mary-Anne Toy
July 26, 2009/The AGE


CHINESE hackers have attacked the Melbourne International Film Festival website in an intensifying campaign against the screening of a documentary about exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer.

Quote:
The hackers broke into the festival's website early yesterday, just hours after Premier John Brumby officially opened the 2009 festival at the Arts Centre.

The hackers replaced festival information with the Chinese flag and anti-Kadeer slogans and were last night continuing to disrupt the site by spamming.

"We like film but we hate Rebiya Kadeer," one message says and calls for an apology to the Chinese people.

Festival director Richard Moore said staff had been bombarded with abusive emails since it was disclosed that the festival had rejected Chinese Government demands to withdraw the film about Ms Kadeer, The 10 Conditions of Love, and cancel her invitation to the festival.

"The language has been vile," Mr Moore said. "It is obviously a concerted campaign to get us because we've refused to comply with the Chinese Government's demands."

He said the festival had reported the attacks, which appear to be coming from a Chinese IP address, and was discussing security concerns with Victoria Police. He said private security guards would be hired to protect Ms Kadeer and patrons at the film's screening on August 8.

Victorian police are monitoring developments and federal police will probe the hacking claims. The State Government last night backed festival organisers.

Last week, three Chinese directors withdrew films, with two denying they were forced to do so by Chinese authorities. Director Tang Xiaobai, who withdrew her film Perfect Life after being phoned by the Chinese Foreign Ministry and the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television, said it was her decision to boycott the festival.

"I do not want to see my film screened on the same platform as a film about Kadeer," Tang told the official English-language newspaper China Daily. .....

.................The Kadeer film, made by Melbourne director Jeff Daniels and partly financed by Film Victoria and Screen Australia, is about the impact on Kadeer's family of her campaign for greater autonomy and improved rights for China's estimated 10 million Uighurs.

Beijing accuses Ms Kadeer of masterminding the riots on July 5 in Xinjiang's capital, Urumqi, in which almost 200 people died. She denies the claim.

Bruce Jacobs, professor of Asian languages and studies at Monash University, said Beijing was clearly behind the campaign against the film festival and was villifying Ms Kadeer in the same way it targeted the Dalai Lama. "It's bullying. It's clearly the (Chinese) Government because they've made that clear when the consulate rang the festival. I think they need to be faced down. You don't give in to bullies," he said


http://www.theage.com.au/national/chinese-hack-into-film-festival-site-20090725-dwvx.html
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2009 06:48 am
@msolga,
They sure have been into a lot of hacking.

I hope the film is the most popular as a result.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 01:52 am
@dlowan,
Quote:
I hope the film is the most popular as a result.


It's sold out, Deb. Probably no one here would have heard of Rebiya Kadeer, say nothing of making her the "star" of the festival, had the Chinese embassy here not been so heavy-handed in it's demands on the Melbourne Film Festival organizers.

Mind you, such bullying tactics have worked in the past. The Lord Mayor of Melbourne refused to meet the Dalai Lama on his visit here not that long ago, due to similar demands. Which caused quite a bit of outrage here, I can tell you. And remember the kafoofle about whether the prime minister or leader of the opposition would meet the Dalai Lama or not?
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 02:39 am
@msolga,
Re Dalai Lama?

Oh yes.


I had a huge DL discussion recently.

I am still cogitating.

I have to say I have always been very drawn to Buddhism (was a self-declared Buddhist at 14) but it's still, you know, sans deity and all, a kind of religion.


A friend's partner was scoffing at the dumb DL worship around....and said he still officially advocates a semi-mediaeval religious dominated government for Tibet....almost a theocracy.


Well, there's great debate about that....and what is old position and what is current position....but it gave me great pause.


Mind you...if the Tibetans CHOSE that...well, there it is.

Not that they'll get a free choice in the foreseeable future....
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 02:48 am
@dlowan,
Deb, I am not so much concerned about the virtues of Tibetan Buddhism (though I am drawn to it, like you) it is more to do with the interference of the the Chinese government in Australia's internal affairs. Like, should a film that is not in the Chinese government's interests be allowed to be shown here? Or should Australia give the Dalai Lama any official recognition? I object to the bullying that has accompanied the Chinese government's "requests" in these & other matters.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 03:00 am
And today's big news story:

Rudd defends putting health reform on waiting list


Posted 2 hours 28 minutes ago
Updated 1 hour 33 minutes ago


The Federal Opposition has accused the Government of breaking an election promise, after the Prime Minister said it would be at least another six months before any decisions are made on major health system reforms.

The Australian Health and Hospital Reform Commission today recommended a huge restructure of the country's health system, including a partial takeover of hospital services, the establishment of a public dental health system and an overhaul of Medicare.




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In response to the report, Mr Rudd said the Government would consider its recommendations for six months while consulting with the public and health professionals on the recommendations.

He will then take a reform package to a COAG meeting late this year for consideration by the states and territories.

Prior to the 2007 federal election, Mr Rudd said if the states did agree to a hospital reform program by mid-2009 the Government would consider taking them over.

Federal Opposition health spokesman Peter Dutton has criticised Mr Rudd for putting off any reform decision for another six months.

"The Prime Minister knew what was wrong with hospitals at the last election and that's why he promised to fix them, and if they weren't fixed that he'd take them over, and now we're seeing he's just pushing this further out to try and use it as an election issue," he said.

Family First Senator Steve Fielding says Mr Rudd should get on with fixing the health system now, rather than embarking on another review.

"The first opportunity, he's baulked at it rather than actually getting in there, rolling up his sleeves and doing something," he said.

"Doing another review is just basically trying to hide the fact he's not prepared to make the tough decisions."

But Mr Rudd has defended his decision, saying time is needed to consider what action should be taken.

"All Australians have a huge stake in this," he said.

"Australians want to make sure that we get these decisions right, therefore the ability of Australians to participate in this debate based on concrete proposals for reform as outlined in the commission's report the is the right way to go."

Mr Rudd has warned the states and territories that if they do not agree to his reform package that he will consider taking the issue of a takeover to a referendum at the next election.

The report, which took 16 months to consider its findings, made 123 recommendations to the health system, with a particular emphasis on preventative health and better access for all, especially Indigenous Australians and those who live in rural areas.

The commission said the country's health system was unsustainable, fractured and inefficient.

It has stopped short of recommending a full federal takeover of public hospitals but says the Government should be responsible for all primary healthcare and outpatient services.

It also wants the Government to fund a public dental system and 40 per cent of the cost of acute care of patients in hospitals.

The commission has called for all state and territory leaders to agree to a Healthy Australia accord, which would implement a partial takeover.

And it wants National Access Targets to stipulate how long a patient should wait before receiving treatment or elective surgery.

It has estimated the cost of the changes at between $2.8 billion and $5.7 billion each year, with a capital injection needed of between $4.3 billion and $7.3 billion. ...<cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 03:05 am
@msolga,
Oh sure, I was digressing.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 03:35 am
@dlowan,
No troubs.

Feel free to go right ahead! Wink

(I didn't mean my response to sounds as cranky as that. Sorry.)
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 05:31 am
@msolga,
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2009/07/27/Cartoon_July28_gallery__527x400,0.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 12:02 am
@msolga,
Crikey! This is becoming really ugly!:

China steps up film festival row
August 2, 2009/Sunday AGE

http://images.theage.com.au/2009/08/01/660063/0208portland-420x0.jpg
Film festival patrons queue for tickets at the Greater Union cinemas in Melbourne after a second cyber-attack shut down online ticket sales. Photo: Gary Medicott
Mark Russell


A DIPLOMATIC row between Australia and China over the planned visit of exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer has escalated, with Australia’s ambassador called to a dressing-down by China’s Foreign Ministry.

As Chinese hackers again attacked the website of the Melbourne International Film Festival, which Ms Kadeer is scheduled to attend this week, ambassador Geoff Raby was told of China’s strong dissatisfaction and opposition to the visit
.

Quote:
Vice-Foreign Minister Zhang Zhijun told Mr Raby that Australia must ‘‘immediately correct its wrongdoings’’ and cancel Ms Kadeer’s visa, the Xinhua news agency reported.

The demand came as the second cyber-attack in a week shut down online ticket sales for the festival, causing chaos as patrons were forced to queue outside venues to pick up tickets booked over the phone.

The festival has been targeted by Chinese hackers since deciding to screen the documentary The 10 Conditions of Love, about Ms Kadeer, and refusing a Chinese Government request to withdraw the film.... <cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/national/china-steps-up-film-festival-row-20090801-e58v.html
 

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