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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 08:43 pm
hingehead wrote:
It seemed to me, way too many times, during the Howard rain (intentional pun) that the cartoons were the only part of the (largely murdoch-owned) print media that were espousing anything like the truth, the big picture or a humanistic viewpoint. All too often they could juxtapose seemingly unrelated issues in a way that the journos didn't (whether that was because they a) couldn't see it b) didn't think we had the attention span to get it, or c) were being censored/self censored by the politics of their bosses, is unclear).

Most did well (not Zanetti) a few earnt, or confirmed existing, sainthood, like Cathy Wilcox.


Couldn't agree more, hinge!
A lot of (even the more established, "respectable") political journos sometimes appeared to be writing from the same script. "Like: Gosh isn't JH an amazing, clever politician!" Rolling Eyes It wasn't till it looked like the was a real chance that Howard actually could be defeated that many of them were brave enough to do their job properly. The cartoonists were the heroes, the brave ones in the darkest moments of Howard's rule. Bless 'em! Very Happy
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vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 09:14 pm
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You said: "How does one decide 'when' it would affect ones decisions. As for the how, that would seem (to me) almost as difficult."

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I think it's a reasonable expectation of Labor voters that "traditional labor values" should have considerably more influence on a Labor leader's decision making than his/her particular religious beliefs


My point was, that labour values (and liberal values) fit quite easily within the christian value frameset...therefore making it hard to differentiate 'how' it would effect policy

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Labor's stance on particular issues do change over time, of course, but till now the accepted way to achieve change has been through a long established process of participatory decision making.


A very good way to reach fair decisions (certainly not perfect, but nothing is)

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To have one leader exercise "presidential" power is a complete change to this.


I may have missed something. Has he not only reserved the right to pick cabinet? Is he exercising other presidential powers? (that said, given how Howard exercised presidential power for about 8 years, it's an easy to follow precedent)
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 09:33 pm
vikorr wrote:
My point was, that labour values (and liberal values) fit quite easily within the christian value frameset...therefore making it hard to differentiate 'how' it would effect policy)


The problem, as I see it, vikorr, is that there are many varieties of "Christian values" ... including the Blair & Bush varieties. I guess I just want to be clear about what Rudd's variety means, policy-wise.

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To have one leader exercise "presidential" power is a complete change to this.

I may have missed something. Has he not only reserved the right to pick cabinet? Is he exercising other presidential powers? (that said, given how Howard exercised presidential power for about 8 years, it's an easy to follow precedent)


My understanding is that he reserves the right to say what goes & what doesn't, across the board. In a not very consultative way, it looks. I'm not happy, for starters, with his take on the rights of unionists & the place of unionism within the economy. That's a big change from a more traditional ALP position.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2008 06:38 am
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My understanding is that he reserves the right to say what goes & what doesn't, across the board. In a not very consultative way, it looks.


That's not good.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2008 05:23 pm
Ahh, looks like inflation is going to hit even higher peaks...just what I needed to hear for my mortgage Rolling Eyes

And somehow I doubt our anti-inflationary govt will lower the fuel excise to combat inflation.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23001170-2702,00.html

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Petrol could hit $1.50 a litre: NRMA

AVERAGE petrol prices could hit the $1.50 mark within a week and an interest rate rise could follow, after world oil prices soared to $US100, says motoring group NRMA Motoring & Services.
Oil prices soared to $US100 a barrel in New York for the first time last night, as global demand for oil and petroleum products continued to outstrip supplies.

The rise was attributed to the surging economies in China and India, and to political tensions in oil-producing nations like Nigeria, Iran and Iraq.

NRMA president Alan Evans today said the price of petrol could rise by five to seven cents over the next week, pushing average prices above $1.50 per litre.

In Sydney the average is $1.44, with reports of prices already exceeding $1.50 in some suburbs.

"It's quite a hike that is going to occur - at least somewhere between five to seven cents on top of what they'd be now," Mr Evans said.

"The rule of thumb is that for each dollar increase in the price of a barrel of crude (prices increase by) about a cent at the pump.

"Your average is going to come up around the $1.50 mark, while in the country, you're going to see them come up to the mid-$1.50 (range)."

Mr Evans said the effects of the petrol hike would be severe, not just for motorists, but for the broader economy.

"My worry is that not only will it hit us at the pump, but it is going to feed inflation and then come through to interest rate rises," he said.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2008 11:49 pm
Some things are out of the government's control, vikorr. But I really wish that the previous government (& the then opposition) had geared a few more of their "policy initiatives" to address the problems of the real strugglers in our community.
Adding to the information in your post, I've noted pretty steep increases to the costs of essential services in Victoria (where I live), coming up very soon. If I'm struggling to meet the costs, then I'm positive that some people will be pushed to the wall .... & they aren't just "working families", they're also the unemployed, the pensioners, the under employed employed, the contract workers who could lose their jobs so easily .....

Before long, the new government is going to be forced to address the reality of the extent of this problem. It's big!
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vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 07:20 am
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Some things are out of the government's control, vikorr.


I realise that, yet the govt has an excise of 39c/litre on petrol, plus the 10% GST, so about 50c/litre - that really is an exhorbitant tax for petrol.

As yes, further interest rates will create very 'interesting' problems. If I recall right, foreclosures in Sydney increased 300% in 2007 (only place I saw in the news, so probably the place with the greatest foreclosures, and it was around 400-600 if I remember right).
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 04:29 pm
I'm funny about petrol prices. I hate the price, but the fact is that demand is increasing and supply will forever decrease. We need alternatives and the only way people will explore them (individually and as businesses/organisations/governments) is if the economic pressure is there.

Let's face it there is nothing good about oil for transport - it's finite, it's a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. Cut the price (via an excise cut) and demand will go up. It used to be said that oil had a low elasticity of demand (ie changes in price would not effect demand) but I think it is finally heading in to the territory we're people are seriously thinking about how they use their cars and even town planners are changing their ideas about how cities should look/operate.

Oil replacements like biofuels are also looking like a double edged sword (destruction of environment, reduction of food producing arable land AND a similar impact to oil in climate change terms).

I'm not saying we'll all be riding pushies by next year but 'the times they are a changing'.

I often ponder the future of outlying 'dormitory' suburbs which can only operate because the car offers the residents a method of getting to place of work. I see plummetting house prices and massive calls for investment in public transport infrastructure in a time frame too short to be delivered, or afforded. I also see differential excise on petrol based on it's use (essential services, food transport etc being cheaper than 'recreational/sporting' uses.)

On a more pragmatic note, would the current government cut it's own revenue sources and deliver a deficit straight up? I don't think so.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 04:32 pm
AND on a related topic, how effing pathetic was Brendon Nelson on the pertrol price hike?

'Labour have talked all of 2007 about petrol prices and now in 2008 [3 days in you knobhead] THEY'VE DELIVERED NOTHING'

Spare me - he is going to be their Kim Beazley.
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bungie
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 04:40 pm
This aint far wrong !!!!!
(excuse the aussie english msolga)



http://images.paultan.org/images/gas_joke.jpg
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jan, 2008 05:36 am
I agree, I'd love to see tax incentives etc for alternative fuels (or in the short term, hybrid cars)

As for Nelson, he seems to think that it's his job to 'make sure the Govt keeps their promises', yet the things he is picking on are things HIS party did nothing about for 10 years, which is in very poor taste...almost worse than the fact that he's criticising a govt that's only been in 6 weeks for not delivering (as you said, it's only 4 days into the new year).

He certainly isn't displaying a great smarts at the moment.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 06:21 pm
Good move.
The Libs spending was completely out of control, with bribes to just about anything that moved (or would gain them a vote), prior to the election.
Actually, to be fair, Labor was involved in quite a bit of this, too. :wink: :


Rudd to axe Lib pledges
David Uren, Economics correspondent
January 07, 2008/the AUSTRALIAN


BUREAUCRATS have been ordered to begin sifting through 225 individual spending commitments made by the Howard government since last May to identify those that can be axed.

The Rudd Government is aiming to make savings of several billion dollars before the May budget, and expects the overturning of commitments made by the Coalition to make a substantial contribution to his target.

"The former government made many spending decisions at the last minute before the election campaign and we will obviously be scrutinising these decisions very closely," Finance Minister Lindsay Tanner told The Australian.

The Department of Finance has sent a request to all public service departments asking them to identify opportunities for "budget reversal".

Some are obvious, such as the $285million provided to establish the Workplace Authority. Digital Australia, an organisation established to co-ordinate the shift from analog to digital television, will also be scrapped.


However, most of the vulnerable projects are small, such as the "Innovation Ambassador" program, under which the former government proposed paying for people to spread the word about entrepreneurialism among small businesses and young Australians.

Other commitments that could be axed include several sporting facilities in marginal electorates, a program to fund the design of an Australian semi-conductor chip, a $10million contribution to a private company developing cloud seeding technology, and $12.5million to support nuclear power research.

The Howard government embarked on a slew of projects, which individually were modest in cost but when combined add a total of $15 billion to budget costs over the next four years.

There were 175 separate spending proposals between last year's May budget and the mid-year budget update, which was ruled off on October 10, four days before the federal election was called.

Over the following seven days, a further 50 spending initiatives were announced, ahead of the government entering the caretaker period, with the writs for the election being issued on October 17.


Labor is finding that its efforts to cut spending are being frustrated by the fact that most public service spending involves contracts with outside parties or with established expectations of entitlements. These are difficult to reverse.

The commitments made by the Coalition ahead of the election may have funding allocated, but they are not yet set in stone and can be undone. Labor views them as glorified election promises. ...<cont>

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23015322-601,00.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2008 07:31 pm
Crikey, this is a bit of a turn-up! Surprised :

Coalition outpolls Labor in Senate
Tim Colebatch
January 7, 2008/the AGE


THE Coalition outpolled Labor in the Senate election after preferences, while perennially unlucky Greens candidate Richard di Natale missed winning Victoria's final seat by fewer than 9000 votes.The result will give the Coalition 37 of the 76 seats when the new Senate takes effect from July 1, a loss of just two seats from the 39 it holds now.

Labor won 18 seats, a gain of four, taking its tally to 32. The Greens won three seats, edging their Senate numbers up from four to five. The other seat went to South Australian independent Nick Xenophon.

The election wiped out the Democrats, who will disappear from Parliament after June 30.


The result means the Coalition will be able to block any Labor legislation it opposes if it has the support of Mr Xenophon or Family First senator Steve Fielding.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 08:54 pm
On top of Rudd's promise to Meet the Press after Parliament, this is a very promising sign. Hopefully this attitude gets extended to the Universities, to the Public Service, to Senate Enquiries etc etc etc

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23025956-601,00.html

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Labor to lift gag on critics
Matthew Franklin, Chief political correspondent | January 09, 2008

LABOR will rewrite thousands of government contracts with the not-for-profit sector to rip out clauses that it says the Howard government used to gag its critics.

Acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard yesterday accused John Howard of silencing the advocacy efforts of the not-for-profit and volunteer sectors by reserving the right to censor their public statements in contracts for delivery of government-funded welfare services.

Labor will scrap the clauses in future contracts and review all existing agreements with a view to excising the gag clauses and reinstating freedom of speech.

"Effectively, the Howard government moved to close down debate," Ms Gillard said.

"We believe robust debate is the best way of making sure the right things get done, and everybody's voice is heard."

Ms Gillard made the comments in an interview with The Australian in which she revealed that the Government had banned the use of Australian Workplace Agreements by the public service and ministerial offices except where it was unavoidable.

And she said preliminary findings of an audit into computers in high schools indicated that many Catholic and low-fee independent schools were as inadequately equipped as struggling state schools.

During the Howard years, not-for-profit groups delivering government welfare services often complained they could not speak out against general government policies for fear of losing their contracts or ruining their chances of winning work.

Yesterday, Ms Gillard, standing in while Kevin Rudd is on holiday, said a Labor review had found routine contracts riddled with gag clauses.

"There are clauses which require them to give government their media releases before they issue them, require them to give government submissions and reports and campaigns and matters to do with launches prior to them doing them," Ms Gillard said.

"It's very common for there to be a clause which says the department may, at its absolute discretion, give notice to the contractor to remove personnel from work in respect of the contract services."

The initiative to remove the gag on not-for-profit organisations comes as the Government has been under Opposition attack for directing key statutory agencies in the Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research to have all "strategic media releases" overseen by the Prime Minister's office. Ms Gillard said there was nothing wrong with the Government dictating terms related to the delivery of contracted work. But Mr Howard's government had extended its veto rights over public statements that had nothing to do with contracted services and were simply aimed at crippling the advocacy functions of welfare groups.

"We want to make sure the not-for-profit sector, the advocacy sector, can do what it does and have a say within the public domain," she said.

"We think it's important to a mature democracy that people who have got expertise in dealing with provision of services with disadvantaged groups in our society aren't constrained from entering the public debate."

She said welfare groups could have confidence under Labor that they could express views critical of the Government without fear of punitive action.

The move will affect hundreds of organisations, from big welfare providers such as the Salvation Army to the smallest community-based groups.

Australian Council of Social Service director Andrew Johnson welcomed the move last night as the beginning of a new era in welfare provision.

"The important thing is that the voices and the experience of those people who were closest to knowing about the issues weren't getting through as strongly as they could have," Mr Johnson said.

"This recognition means that at the end of the day, the country is going to get better policy."

Ms Gillard also said her parliamentary secretary for social inclusion and the voluntary sector, Ursula Stephens, would consult welfare groups in coming weeks ahead of a crackdown on red tape in contracts with the Government.

She said all contracts "came wrapped in a bundle of red tape" and that rationalisation of arrangements would mean the community groups would have to spend less on administration, leaving more money for service delivery.

Ms Gillard said that since taking office in November, the Government had instructed all departments to avoid the use of AWAs - the controversial individual workplace contracts put in place under the Howard government's Work Choices industrial relations legislation.

Labor came to power vowing to scrap AWAs but to allow common law contracts with special flexibility clauses for high-income earners.

Ms Gillard said all departments and ministerial offices were hiring either on collective industrial agreements or common law contracts, except in rare cases where there was no alternative but to use AWAs pending Labor legislation creating new interim agreements as part of a phase-out of AWAs.

Ms Gillard, whom Mr Rudd appointed to oversee his so-called education revolution, will be responsible for the Government's $1 billion plan to ensure every Australian student in Years nine to 12 has a computer at school.

While the Council of Australian Governments is conducting an audit of computer resources in schools across the country, Ms Gillard said early indications were that the levels of resources varied dramatically.

"Some schools are sitting there with good-quality internet access, with good access to computers, and far too many are beyond the reach of broadband because of this nation's problems with broadband," she said.

While some schools were well-resourced, some had only a limited number of computers being shared by many students.

She said shortages were not confined to government schools. "It certainly goes into the private sector as well," she said. "Many Catholic schools are without IT resources and many low-fee independent schools are without IT resources."

Despite the variability, all schools would receive a share of the new funding, she said. Those with high levels of existing resources would be given grants to upgrade their existing systems.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 04:40 pm
vikorr wrote:
On top of Rudd's promise to Meet the Press after Parliament, this is a very promising sign. Hopefully this attitude gets extended to the Universities, to the Public Service, to Senate Enquiries etc etc etc


Adding to this cool announcement is that Kev let Julia make it - he isn't looking like a prima donna at the moment is he?
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 05:47 pm
Julia seems to be doing all the talking at the moment - not just the positive stuff.:

Gillard pledges to keep 'unfair' school funding
Ben Doherty and Anna Patty
January 10, 2008/the AGE


THE Rudd Government will stand by its schools funding policy for at least four years, despite a secret report from the federal Education Department showing many private schools getting more than their fair share of taxpayers' money.

The report, completed last year but kept under wraps by the Howard government before the November election, is believed to recommend changes to the socio-economic status (SES) index system for allocating government money to schools, to bring some schools down from inflated funding levels.

The Australian Education Union has described the index as corrupt and discredited, and the Australian Anglican Schools Network and Christian Schools Australia want it overhauled.

Under the SES system, which measures a school's entitlement according to the wealth of families who attend, more than $6 billion in subsidies is given to private schools each year.

The report found the "no losers" arm of the policy, introduced to ensure no school received less money than it had in the past, was keeping some subsidies at artificially high levels even after a school's SES index rating had improved, entitling it to less money.


About 60% of independent and Catholic schools are getting too much money, the report found, and new schools are unable to win funding equal to those that have had their subsidies kept at high levels.

During the election campaign, Labor pledged to maintain the current system for at least four years.

Yesterday, Education Minister Julia Gillard said the Government would not be swayed by the report.

"The Rudd Labor Government has committed to keeping the SES index, which is the current way of distributing funding to schools. We've committed to keeping that for the next quadrennium," Ms Gillard said.

"We believe schools need certainty, and we've provided that certainty by giving that commitment." ... <cont>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/gillard-pledges-to-keep-unfair-school-funding/2008/01/09/1199554741749.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 06:21 pm
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/01/09/mb_cartoon_jan10_gallery__563x400.jpg

$1bn hit to banks from US
Scott Murdoch
January 10, 2008


AUSTRALIA'S big four banks have a $1billion direct exposure to the US sub-prime mortgage market, despite months of assurances that they were immune from the deepening financial crisis.

The revelation came as the Commonwealth Bank, Australia's biggest home mortgage lender, raised its variable home loan rate by 10 basis points to 8.67 per cent in response to the global credit crunch and independent of any action by the Reserve Bank. The National Australia Bank last week lifted its rates by 0.12 of a percentage point, and the ANZ followed with a rise of 0.2.

The Commonwealth's move came as the argument for the Reserve Bank to increase official interest rates at its next meeting firmed yesterday, with November retail sales rising by a bigger than expected 0.8 per cent.

The $20billion pre-Christmas spending spree, coming during an election campaign and just after an interest rate rise, prompted economists to warn that the Reserve Bank could be forced to act to further cool the economy.


The CBA, NAB, ANZ and Westpac's exposure to the US sub-prime market comes through an almost $1billion investment in troubled US mortgage group Countrywide Financial, which appears close to collapse.

The major players were part of a syndicate of 40 banks around the world that threw the embattled lender an $US11.5billion ($13 billion) financial lifeline last year.

The CBA and the NAB invested $300million each, while the ANZ pumped $150 million into the deal and Westpac $100 million.

Countrywide has been one of the biggest victims of the sub-prime credit crunch, and is facing a battle to survive.

The shares in the US's largest independent lender plunged by almost 30 per cent on Tuesday night after rumours emerged on Wall Street the company was seeking bankruptcy protection.

The potential loss by the Australian banks is a further sign the sub-prime crisis has the potential to damage the domestic economy. ...<cont>

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23030579-601,00.html
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vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:30 pm
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Adding to this cool announcement is that Kev let Julia make it - he isn't looking like a prima donna at the moment is he?


Hi Hingehead - I missed the meaning of this.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:56 pm
Hi Vik

I was referring to the previous leader's habit of announcing all the good news and only letting his lackeys announce bad news. Kevin could quite easily have made that rather popular announcement on his return from holidays, thus making himself shiny. Kevin appears, and it's only an impression, not to be affraid to share the limelight, even this early in his term.

Can't figure out if he has a fiendishly cunning master plan, is (not) suffering from blindass luck, or if he's just doing what comes naturally to him as a manager.

And blow me down if Nelson didn't say that Costello would have strongarmed the big four in to not raising their rates. He really does insult my intelligence. Brendon, I mightn't be a doctor, and I might have been educated when tertiary education was no longer fully funded, but I have some understanding of the relationship between business and government.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jan, 2008 07:12 am
Bloody banks! Evil or Very Mad #1:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5836345,00.jpg
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