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Former White House spokesman Scott McClellan (right) is ready to blow the lid off the Bush administration with an astonishing admission that not only did he lie for his masters, but was told to do so by President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Bush chief of staff Andrew Card, chief political adviser Karl Rove and Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby. That's a potential Royal Flush in terms of Washington scandal.

The allegation comes in an extract from a memoir McClellan is writing for the publisher PublicAffairs, and posted as a teaser on the publisher's website yesterday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information," McClellan writes. "And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so."

At issue was the White House role in illegally exposing the identity of a clandestine CIA officer, Valerie Plame. Libby was sentenced to 30 months in jail after being found guilty of lying and obstruction of justice. The core of the scandal was about who in the White House gave Plame's identity to the right-wing columnist Robert Novak, a move which was part of the Bush campaign to convince Americans that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

For months, McClellan did his job by denying all. In one press briefing in 2003, he deflected allegations over the roles of Rove and Libby by telling reporters: "They're good individuals, they're important members of our White House team, and that's why I spoke with them, so that I could come to you and tell you that they were not involved."

Now he writes: "There was one problem. It was not true." Frustratingly the book, What Happened, is not due out until next April. No details have been released on what McClellan will reveal of who knew what when as the White House smear campaign against Plame unfolded. The response from the White House yesterday was predictable. McClellan's latest poker-faced replacement, Dana Perino told reporters: "The president has not and would not ask his spokespeople to pass on false information." No?

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What is worth noting is that this story is getting wide press coverage in the foreign press, and virtually none (outside the blogs) inside the United States.

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Hi Zippo

but of course you have to wait until the book comes out to find out "the real truth" Rolling Eyes

btw I am still reading the 9/11 commission report. I will take it with me on my next trip and finish it.

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but will it make any difference?

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Possibly time to repeat a question I've asked Zippo two or three times in the past regarding his ultimate hero Adolf Hitler:

The problem I have understanding the history of nazi Germany is that Germans are supposed to be a superior intellectual race and Hitler was supposed to be some sort of an all-around genius. That makes several of the things you read about WW-II very hard to understand.

Hitler and the nazis had several very clear cut chances to win and, in fact, there are about a baker's dozen things Hitler could have done differently, any two or three of which would have won the war for him outright.

He could have simply not invaded Russia. The CCCP was on the edge of collapse in 37 - 39; he could have waited five years and picked up the pieces for free.
He could have started WW-II with the 300 ocean-going U-Boats which Doenitz wanted instead of spending money on pocket battleships.
He could have built medium-sized carriers like our Independance class to go out with the U-Boats and had fighter cover over the U-Boats so that escort ships could not attack them. A wolfpack with fighter cover could have sat there on the surface and sunk entire convoys.
He could have made Franco some sort of an offer he'd have been unable to refuse and gained control over Gibralter and the Med.
He could have entered the war with some sort of a modern rifle in his soldiers hands instead of Mausers. That was basically stupid.
He could have given the go-ahead for using the jet Messerschmidt as an area defense fighter in 39. Allied bombers would never have been able to fly over Germany had he done so.

There are a dozen or so others like that, like I say, doing any two or three of those things right would have won for him.

What about it, Zippo??? Got any answers for us at this point?

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TTH wrote:

Hi Zippo
but of course you have to wait until the book comes out to find out "the real truth"

btw I am still reading the 9/11 commission report. I will take it with me on my next trip and finish it.

Is that the same 911 report that probably did not include the information stolen by Sandy Bergler? And is that the same 911 report that Jamie Gorelick helped write, the person that was responsible for "the wall," which was part of the reason we couldn't track down the hijackers in the first place? Oh I forgot, Zippo said it was Bush that did all of it anyway I guess, it wasn't hijackers after all?

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okie wrote:

TTH wrote:
Hi Zippo
but of course you have to wait until the book comes out to find out "the real truth"

btw I am still reading the 9/11 commission report. I will take it with me on my next trip and finish it.

Is that the same 911 report that probably did not include the information stolen by Sandy Bergler? And is that the same 911 report that Jamie Gorelick helped write, the person that was responsible for "the wall," which was part of the reason we couldn't track down the hijackers in the first place? Oh I forgot, Zippo said it was Bush that did all of it anyway I guess, it wasn't hijackers after all?

I am surprised you didn't drag in Clinton for his serial rapes. Of course you have no info that Berger impacted on the report, or that Gorelick did anything wrong. BTW, Gorelick's suggestions ensured that any convictions would stand up.

But assuming arguendo there is merit to your statements, does that somehow lessen the offenses brought out by McClennan?

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The gorilla (Jamie Gorilla) "wall" CAUSED 9/11. The wall was built to keep the FBI out of chinagate; the gorilla should have been burned at the stake on 9/12/01.

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Bush press man: we lied, and lied, and lied

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What is worth noting is that this story is getting wide press coverage in the foreign press, and virtually none (outside the blogs) inside the United States.

Truly worth noting (though I'd call it press coverage vs wide press coverage).

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gungasnake wrote:

Possibly time to repeat a question I've asked Zippo two or three times in the past regarding his ultimate hero Adolf Hitler:

The problem I have understanding the history of nazi Germany is that Germans are supposed to be a superior intellectual race and Hitler was supposed to be some sort of an all-around genius. That makes several of the things you read about WW-II very hard to understand.

Hitler and the nazis had several very clear cut chances to win and, in fact, there are about a baker's dozen things Hitler could have done differently, any two or three of which would have won the war for him outright.

He could have simply not invaded Russia. The CCCP was on the edge of collapse in 37 - 39; he could have waited five years and picked up the pieces for free.

He could have started WW-II with the 300 ocean-going U-Boats which Doenitz wanted instead of spending money on pocket battleships.

He could have built medium-sized carriers like our Independance class to go out with the U-Boats and had fighter cover over the U-Boats so that escort ships could not attack them. A wolfpack with fighter cover could have sat there on the surface and sunk entire convoys.

He could have made Franco some sort of an offer he'd have been unable to refuse and gained control over Gibralter and the Med.

He could have entered the war with some sort of a modern rifle in his soldiers hands instead of Mausers. That was basically stupid.

He could have given the go-ahead for using the jet Messerschmidt as an area defense fighter in 39. Allied bombers would never have been able to fly over Germany had he done so.

There are a dozen or so others like that, like I say, doing any two or three of those things right would have won for him.

What about it, Zippo??? Got any answers for us at this point?

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Still not hearing anything from our resident Hitler apologist (Zippo) here... What about it, Zippo? Got any sort of an answer to the question posted above??

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Here's another thought for you, Zippo:

Suppose Doenitz HAD conceived the idea of sending light or medium carriers out with the U-boats and suppose Hitler had bought the idea (i.e. let's play a "what if" game here)...

American and Japanese carriers generally carried three kinds of aircraft, i.e. fighters, torpedo planes, and light bombers including dive-bombers; those were the three basic missions of carrier-borne aircraft prior to and during WW-II.

Nonetheless for a naval force consisting almost entirely of U-boats and carriers and operating the way I've described, the torpedo planes and bombers would have been totally unnecessary. The carriers could have been very small and inexpensive and they would not have even been vulnerable to the worst problem our carriers had, which was being attacked while loading bombs and torpedoes on the flight deck.

What about it, Zippo? Why didn't this idea occur to Hitler and/or Doenitz?? England would have been strangled within a year and they (nazis) would have won WW-II fairly easily.

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Am i seeing things or what ?

WTF !!! Gungasnake what the heck have you been smoking? Laughing

Are you sure you're in the right thread ? ? Laughing

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What I find fascinating is how whenever GWB is mentioned theres always someone around to scream hitler, whats up with that Confused

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Xenoche wrote:

What I find fascinating is how whenever GWB is mentioned theres always someone around to scream hitler, whats up with that

Zippo is our resident Hitler apologist.

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