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World should give thanks for America

 
 
Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 08:17 am
World should give thanks for America

Speaking as a misfit unassimilated foreigner, I think of Thanksgiving as the most American of holidays.

Christmas is celebrated elsewhere, even if there are significant local variations: In Continental Europe, naughty children get left rods to be flayed with and lumps of coal; in Britain, Christmas lasts from Dec. 22 to mid-January and celebrates the ancient cultural traditions of massive alcohol intake and watching the telly till you pass out in a pool of your own vomit. All part of the rich diversity of our world.

But Thanksgiving (excepting the premature and somewhat undernourished Canadian version) is unique to America. "What's it about?" an Irish visitor asked me a couple of years back. "Everyone sits around giving thanks all day? Thanks for what? George bloody Bush?"

Well, Americans have a lot to be thankful for.

Europeans think of this country as "the New World" in part because it has an eternal newness, which is noisy and distracting. Who would ever have thought you could have ready-to-eat pizza faxed directly to your iPod?

And just when you think you're on top of the general trend of novelty, it veers off in an entirely different direction: Continentals who grew up on Hollywood movies where the guy tells the waitress "Gimme a cuppa joe" and slides over a nickel return to New York a year or two later and find the coffee now costs $5.75, takes 25 minutes and requires an agonizing choice between the cinnamon-gingerbread-persimmon latte with coxcomb sprinkles and the decaf venti pepperoni-Eurasian-milfoil macchiato.

Who would have foreseen that the nation that inflicted fast food and drive-thru restaurants on the planet would then take the fastest menu item of all and turn it into a Kabuki-paced performance art? What mad genius!

But Americans aren't novelty junkies on the important things. The New World is one of the oldest settled constitutional democracies on Earth, to a degree the Old World can barely comprehend. Where it counts, Americans are traditionalists.

We know Eastern Europe was a totalitarian prison until the Nineties, but we forget that Mediterranean Europe (Greece, Spain, Portugal) has democratic roots going all the way back until, oh, the mid-Seventies; France and Germany's constitutions date back barely half a century, Italy's only to the 1940s, and Belgium's goes back about 20 minutes, and currently it's not clear whether even that latest rewrite remains operative. The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's, Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put together.

Americans think of Europe as Goethe and Mozart and 12th century castles and 6th century churches, but the Continent's governing mechanisms are no more ancient than the Partridge Family. Aside from the Anglophone democracies, most of the nation-states in the West have been conspicuous failures at sustaining peaceful political evolution from one generation to the next, which is why they're so susceptible to the siren song of Big Ideas - communism, fascism, European Union.

If you're going to be novelty-crazed, better the zebra-mussel cappuccino than the Third Reich.

Even in a supposedly 50/50 nation, you're struck by the assumed stability underpinning even fundamental disputes. If you go into a bookstore, the display shelves offer a smorgasbord of leftist anti-Bush tracts claiming that he and Cheney have trashed, mangled, gutted, raped and tortured, sliced 'n' diced the Constitution, put it in a cement overcoat and lowered it into the East River. Yet even this argument presupposes a shared veneration for tradition unknown to most Western political cultures: When Tony Blair wanted to abolish, in effect, the upper house of the national legislature, he just got on and did it.

I don't believe the U.S. Constitution includes a right to abortion or gay marriage or a zillion other things the Left claims to detect emanating from the penumbra, but I find it sweetly touching that in America even political radicalism has to be framed as an appeal to constitutional tradition from the powdered-wig era.

In Europe, by contrast, one reason why there's no politically significant pro-life movement is because, in a world where constitutions have the life expectancy of an Oldsmobile, great questions are just seen as part of the general tide, the way things are going, no sense trying to fight it. And, by the time you realize you have to, the tide's usually up to your neck.

So Americans should be thankful they have one of the last functioning nation-states. Europeans, because they've been so inept at exercising it, no longer believe in national sovereignty, whereas it would never occur to Americans not to. This profoundly different attitude to the nation-state underpins, in turn, Euro-American attitudes to transnational institutions such as the United Nations.

But on this Thanksgiving the rest of the world ought to give thanks to American national sovereignty, too. When something terrible and destructive happens - a tsunami hits Indonesia, an earthquake devastates Pakistan - the United States can project itself anywhere on the planet within hours and start saving lives, setting up hospitals and restoring the water supply.

Aside from Britain and France, the Europeans cannot project power in any meaningful way anywhere. When they sign on to an enterprise they claim to believe in - shoring up Afghanistan's fledgling post-Taliban democracy - most of them send token forces under constrained rules of engagement that prevent them doing anything more than manning the photocopier back at the base.

If America were to follow the Europeans and maintain only shriveled attenuated residual military capacity, the world would very quickly be nastier and bloodier, and far more unstable. It's not just Americans and Iraqis and Afghans who owe a debt of thanks to the U.S. soldier but all the Europeans grown plump and prosperous in a globalized economy guaranteed by the most benign hegemon in history.

That said, Thanksgiving isn't about the big geopolitical picture, but about the blessings closer to home. Last week, the state of Oklahoma celebrated its centennial, accompanied by rousing performances of Rodgers and Hammerstein's eponymous anthem:

"We know we belong to the land

And the land we belong to is grand!"

Which isn't a bad theme song for the first Thanksgiving, either.

Three hundred and 14 years ago, the Pilgrims thanked God because there was a place for them in this land, and it was indeed grand. The land is grander today, and that, too, is remarkable: France has lurched from Second Empires to Fifth Republics struggling to devise a lasting constitutional settlement for the same smallish chunk of real estate, but the principles that united a baker's dozen of East Coast colonies were resilient enough to expand across a continent and halfway around the globe to Hawaii.

Americans should, as always, be thankful this Thanksgiving, but they should also understand just how rare in human history their blessings are.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:07 am
america should give the world a f***ing break.

it's thanksgiving! celebrate by immigrating to a foreign land, having a feast with the indigenous people, and infecting them all with smallpox.

god bless us, everyone!


completely mental, deluded, self-serving bastards. how can conservatives go on about a "welfare state" after stealing the land, digging up all the gold and oil, and filling the holes with garbage?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:22 am
Self-aggrandizement is truly sad. Are you really that insecure, McG?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:23 am
I like to poke the animals at the zoo sometimes. Thanks for playing.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:28 am
McGentrix wrote:
I like to poke the animals at the zoo sometimes. Thanks for playing.


that's a little severe even for you buddy.... don't they have an escort service you can call?
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:51 am
the real question is, should the animals be thankful if you do?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:54 am
McGentrix wrote:
I like to poke the animals at the zoo sometimes. Thanks for playing.

Nobody expects anything more from you.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 09:54 am
I don't know. We have a giraffe and a bear now. Ask them.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:07 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I like to poke the animals at the zoo sometimes. Thanks for playing.


that's a little severe even for you buddy.... don't they have an escort service you can call?


Ha ha!
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:09 am
i have yet to feel any poking... although a lot of decent people in this country are perfectly screwed.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:12 am
tinygiraffe wrote:
i have yet to feel any poking... although i do think this thread shows how screwed we really are.

Just because you're not feeling anything, doesn't mean McGentrix isn't already poking you..
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:13 am
tinygiraffe wrote:
i have yet to feel any poking... although i do think this thread shows how screwed we really are.


consider the source.... not surprising you don't feel anything...
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:15 am
wow, two replies to that effect, and all while i edited a single-line post!


(so are you guys thankful?)
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:20 am
Oh goody, it's become a giant gang-bang now.

I had no idea this article would bring out so much animosity (that means ill will or resentment tending toward active hostility for those of you that don't know what the word means...).

Besides that, I doubt tinygiraffe would notice a city bus poking him as reamed out as he would appear to be.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:20 am
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wow, two replies to that effect, and all while i edited a single-line post!


It was too obvious to resist Razz
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 10:21 am
The Pilgrims were just a bunch of "boat people". Too bad the natives didn't treat them the way we treat illegal aliens today. Fence them out, hunt them down, and send them back to where they came from.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 11:12 am
I agree with Mcg - America is a good place and the world should be thankful for the advances we have pioneered.

At the same time - maybe we should be thankful for the rest of the world?

Cycloptichorn
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Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 11:28 am
Re: World should give thanks for America
McGentrix wrote:
But Thanksgiving (excepting the premature and somewhat undernourished Canadian version) is unique to America.

Not true. Germans, at least if they're Christian, do celebrate thanksgiving (Erntedankfest). But it's a Christian celebration that falls on a Sunday, not a national celebration that falls on a Thursday, so maybe that's why the author wasn't aware of it. There is nothing American about the celebration as such.

McGentrix wrote:
In Europe, by contrast, one reason why there's no politically significant pro-life movement is because, in a world where constitutions have the life expectancy of an Oldsmobile, great questions are just seen as part of the general tide, the way things are going, no sense trying to fight it. And, by the time you realize you have to, the tide's usually up to your neck.

There your authors goes again with his sloppy research. Our laws are much closer to "pro-life" than America's so maybe pro-lifers just didn't need a movement to get what they want.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I like to poke the animals at the zoo sometimes. Thanks for playing.


that's a little severe even for you buddy.... don't they have an escort service you can call?

Maybe it's just my German naivité showing -- but aren't escort services for a different kind of poking than McGentrix is doing?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 11:32 am
http://i12.tinypic.com/80luph4.jpg

Thanksgiving, btw, is celebrated in Europe mostly as a [semi-]religious holiday - and by farmer associations: thanking for the harvest, for food.
(In Germany by Catholics on the first Sunday of October, the Evangelicals/Protestants celebrate it on the Sunday following St. Michels Day [Sept. 29].)

Thanksgiving - a possible festival : new aspects of a favourite but nevertheless difficult festival
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 12:02 pm
I found it hilarious that the Canadian "version" was described as "undernourished." My experience of the Canadian thanksgiving holiday is that it entails eating just as much, and almost exactly the same dishes as are traditional in the United States.

For those mired in the "Pilgrim Fathers" delusion--the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States was established by Abraham Lincoln in 1863.
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