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Pentagon Taking Aim Against the Cheney Iran War Threat

 
 
Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2007 10:21 am
It's about time; thank you Secretary Gates and Admiral Fallon.---BBB
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 15 Nov, 2007 07:51 pm
bbb :
certainly quite forthright of the general to speak out .
i wonder , however , if pust-comes-shove who'll be getting the president's ear .
i seem to recall secretary powell was outflanked by vp cheney and his people when it came to getting the president's attention .
certainly bears watching .
hbg
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 16 Nov, 2007 08:51 am
Hamburger
Haamburger, I have hope. It's rare that such high officials take public aim at the vice president---even the president. The admiral is a brave man---or he wants early retirement.

BBB
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 16 Nov, 2007 12:10 pm
bbb wrote :

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Haamburger, I have hope. It's rare that such high officials take public aim at the vice president---even the president. The admiral is a brave man---or he wants early retirement.


i took early retirement too - didn't even have to disagree with the (company) president or vice-presidents :wink:
even having lunch with the vp's once a year now Very Happy
retirement sure feels good !
hbg
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 16 Nov, 2007 01:24 pm
Is a turnaround possible?

If we wake-up and smell the jackboot. From the miasma of right-wing media propaganda, to the proliferation of predatory capitalism, to the corruption and cupidity of the prison industrial complex, to the pandemic of police brutality and the trampling of the rights of the accused, to perennial civilian shooting sprees, to the muzzling of descent, to the rise of the national surveillance state, to the use and acceptance of torture as state policy, to the adoption of an unlawful, immoral foreign policy doctrine that promotes policies of perpetual war, one is forced to conclude that bullying, and deferring to bullies, has become the dominate mode of being in the US.

Remedy: In order to turn this trend around, the people of the US must begin to acquire the anti-authoritarian traits of empathy and engagement. The gaining of empathy alleviates the pathological need to be a bully, while social and political engagement mitigates feelings of powerlessness that authoritarian bully-boys, such as Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, et al., exploit.

In short, remedial human lessons for the US population, in general, and for the corporate and political classes, in particular.

Let us start the process by having a period of grief and repentance for the death and suffering that our government, in our name, has inflicted on the people of Iraq. This should be done as the US begins the process of a complete military withdrawal from their decimated nation, and the bestowing of economic reparations upon the millions of Iraqis who have suffered under the brutal machinations and murderous mayhem unloosed by our country's contemptible invasion and occupation.

To do so, might save the people of our next target, Iran (as well as ourselves) a world of grief.
http://philrockstroh.com/2007/10/02/a-q-and-a-for-the-people-of-a-forsaken-republic-addressing-the-origins-of-the-whose-your-daddy-nation/
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 16 Nov, 2007 06:14 pm
I guess this aint related but with Cheney and Bushie anything is possible. Tommy Franks warned that the next terrorist attack could mean martial law. And Brezinski told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee of possible false flag terrorist attacks by the Bushie administration on America followed by the bombing of Iran. "General would deploy troops on U.S. soil"
NORTHCOM commander ready to obey any presidential order to intervene in domestic emergency link
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 17 Nov, 2007 09:22 am
blueflame
blueflame1 wrote:
NORTHCOM commander ready to obey any presidential order to intervene in domestic emergency link


It wouldn't be the first time. U.S. troops were called out after WWI to quell protests by soldiers who had not received their promised bonuses.

Troops were called out by FDR to move Japanese from the West Coast to internment camps in the mid-West.

Troops were called out by Ike to support school integration in the South in the 1960s.

Troops shot U.S. citizens at Kent State and Jackson State in the U.S.'s second civil war.

(governor) Reagan called out troops and U.S. citizens (including BBB while she was grocery shopping) were tear gassed and one young man was shot and killed in Berkeley in the 1960s.

There is a long history of troops being called out to support business owners against their employee labor unions: http://www.lutins.org/labor.html

The history of troop use In the U.S. includes attacked against the Indian tribes and racial minorities.

So why are we surprised that Bush-Cheney might order troops to control U.S. citizens?

BBB


I've probably forgotten many instances, some for good reasons, some for bad.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 17 Nov, 2007 03:28 pm
MARCH OF THE BONUS ARMY

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The Bonus Army, some 15,000 to 20,000 World War I veterans from across the country, marched on the Capitol in June 1932 to request early payment of cash bonuses due to them in 1945. The Great Depression had destroyed the economy, leaving many veterans jobless.

Veteran Army Signal Corps photographer Theodor Horydczak, of Washington, D.C., photographed their camp site on the Mall. Six futile weeks of lobbying Congress raised government fears of riots, and on July 28, cavalry, infantry, tank troops and a mounted machine gun squadron commanded by General Douglas MacArthur and Major Dwight Eisenhower dispersed veterans and their families with bayonets and tear gas. Public opinion denounced President Herbert Hoover for the resulting bloodshed and helped force him from office.



notice the signs on the right :
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/at0058f2as.jpg


see article :
THE BONUS ARMY

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in june 1935 "a march on ottawa" started in the western canadian provinces . by the time the first train (the protesters were riding in freightcars) reached winnipeg , the RCMP had been called in to sent the protesters home after first giving them a thorough beating - all in the name of DEMOCRACY !
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 17 Nov, 2007 03:40 pm
Hamburger
Hamburger, thanks for the complete story of the shameful action against the bonus army veterans.

BBB
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