Weird toilet water

Is there any way to get back to finding out if acid or chlorox, etc., causes - or doesn't cause - damage for drains to the sewage system or septic tank?

I guess that would be backflow, re the thread.

Chlorine is a definite a no no for septic tanks. dilution would occur quite rapidly I should think in most household drainage systems. Household chlorine based bleaches are usually around 4% Wv (weight volume ratio).

We used to get 12.5 % at the commercial laundry I worked in years ago It had to be stored in a Ventilated outdoor cement tank. That probably tells you something about the damage it can do to metal.

However the question is related to domestic usage so I think the answer is no or very minimal damage to household pipes and fittings if a domestic quality bleach is used. Damage could result if a concentrate is allowed to lay undiluted in metal ie copper pipework. no damage to pvc.

Town and city sewage systems seem to be able to handle bleaches probably because the volume of bleach vs volume of water is really very low. I'm sure we would have heard by now if this was not the case.

Septic systems

Your Toilet Is Not A Trash Can

Trillions of living, beneficial bacteria constantly treat and decompose raw sewage in a septic system. The effectiveness of these bacteria can be impaired if harmful substances and chemicals are put into the septic system. Harmful substances/chemicals include:

* oils and grease
* gasoline
* antifreeze
* varnishes and paints and solvents
* harsh drain and toilet bowl cleaners
* laundry detergents with high sudsing elements
* bleach
* pesticides

Remember, what goes into your toilet and drains many eventually end up back in your drinking water. So instead of using caustic toilet bowl cleaners or bleach, try mild detergent or baking soda or one half cup of borax per gallon of water.

http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/watermgt/Wqp/WQP_WM/FACTS/pa1608.htm

Thanks, dadpad.

Uh, in places where it freezes up you HAVE to put antifreeze in your lines when you shut a place up for the winter. At least in the traps. And bleach is quite good at getting white stuff white in the wash. But I'm weird.

I don't think putting that much bleach down the drain can be a good thing. Yes, it works, and yes, it's cheap... and it's also a toxic chemical! The cup-or-so you put in the wash is well-diluted by the time it hits the sewers, but who knows what a tidal wave of bleach would do.... and doesn't chlorine mixed with ammonia (found in waste products) equal chlorine gas?

Maybe bleach needs another warning label. Maybe it should be included in the new assault weapons ban!!!!

Sheeeit.

Among my travails upon moving here to this precise house, my own choice, of course, because of low cost...

well, some day I'll do a thread.

But, the pipes are polybutylene, which have a tendency for brittleness to start with. I didn't know this until the connections re the new washer I put in didn't work.

This is one of many things. I think of this developer as scum.... and I've worked for and with developers. (Well, more to say on that, not this evening -- not all a diatribe, though mostly).

Anyway, in my pipes, bleach may matter, re increasing brittleness. No matter that cjhsa needs to flush me.

Maybe there's still some money available from that massive class action lawsuit, Ossobuco.

I think the point of bleach and similar heavily toxic chemical killing useful bacteria in the sewer systems is also important (to me anyway). Sure, if a few people use bleach, not much will happen. But if we all did and frequently so, it could have a bad impact on the chemical process of decomposition of the stuff we flush. It probably already does.
Yet another reason to stick to, at least predominantly, natural cleaners like vinegar or soda bicarbonada (whatsit, baking soda?) or the like and to mechanical plunging and unclogging when the stuff gets clogged.
I myself like things clean, and do admit to using Fantastic with Bleach spray - but not more often than once in a fortnight. I'll seek alternative brighteners. Any suggestions?

Not according to those I've talked to - the end date seems to be before I bought, though I haven't talked with a lawyer, and my real estate agent laughed.
I'm not much of a lawsuit person. Still.... the pipes ain't all.



I might see it as recompense for my going along with designing planting and irrigation systems in questionable places with cities with questionable demands, back in my early design days. Not that I fully got the idiocy back then, but I did have questioning for a while before I just stopped.

Some kind of catholic penance, these pipes.

I wanna get in and post something inane (sorta like cj) before this thread gets locked up . . CJ is getting himself all wired over a toilet. ITS A TOILET,
Anyway, why not use a caustic hydroxide to un clog a trap instead of bleach.It takes chlorine longer to oxideze the mess than a good dose of hydroxide and a plunger. Ive lived through many years of girly hair clogging up drains and never once going ballistic or blaming it on Reagan.


CJ need some hugs

Just make sure to wash your hands first.