Law center: Little evidence of jihadists in the U.S.

If you are going to tell lies, make them really big lies, because the results of being caught lying, do not increase in proportion to the size or depth of the lie.

all those muslims tortured for nothing but having a name that sounds like someone else. no wonder they hate our freedom.

LOL. I take it you haven't heard of the No-Fly list??? Read on, please. . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/05/60minutes/main2066624.shtml

Anyone who has passed through an airport in the last five years and has been pulled aside for extra screening knows that the government and the airlines keep a list of people they consider to be security threats. Every time you check in at the ticket counter your name is run through a computer to make sure you are not on something called the "No Fly List." It's part of a secret government database compiled after 9/11 to prevent suspected terrorists from getting on airplanes. As correspondent Steve Kroft reports, if your name is on the list or even similar to someone on the list, you can be detained for hours.


It began as a project of the highest priority. In 2003, President Bush directed the nation's intelligence agencies and the FBI to cooperate in creating a single watch list of suspected terrorists. A version of that list is given to the airlines and the Transportation Security Administration to prevent anyone considered a threat to civilian aviation from boarding a plane. The government won't divulge the criteria it uses in making up the list or even how many names are on it. But in the spring of 2006, working with a government watchdog group called the National Security News Service, 60 Minutes was able to obtain a copy of the No Fly List from someone in aviation security who wanted us to see what the bureaucracy had wrought.

The first surprise was the sheer size of it. In paper form it is more than 540 pages long. Before 9/11, the government's list of suspected terrorists banned from air travel totaled just 16 names; today there are 44,000. And that doesn't include people the government thinks should be pulled aside for additional security screening. There are another 75,000 people on that list.

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Sounds a bit like a political junta to me.

of course i have, builder.

I hear Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi have a hell of a time using public airlines.

Olbermann: "I heard Al Qaeda causes night to fall," he warned.

Air America radio host Rachel Maddow, a guest during the segment, said reports like Fox's helped to aid a White House that profited from fear.

"They have to come up with superhuman powers for Al Qaeda because they want to use Al Qaeda to justify a super-extreme agenda for the United States of America," said Maddow of the Bush administration.

Citing controversial intelligence techniques and possible military action against Iran she described as a "radical agenda," Maddow said the administration required a "really radical justification for it "they've had to elevate this band of death-cult fundamentalist criminals into a threat that is greater to our country than the Soviet Union ever was."

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=482

I just wonder how well Moslems will be able to fit into the U.S. society that doesn't accomodate the needs of devout Moslems. How will Moslems wash their feet before prayer when at school or work. Is foot washing mandatory? How well can an organization expect a Moslem employee to work during the daytime fasting during the month of Ramadan?

I would guess that Moslem countries make allowances for any needs that a devout Moslem has. But will this be problematic in the U.S. society?

Perhaps, Moslems in the U.S. will mostly become marginally religious? Secular?

Will Moslems acculturate, or does the religion prevent that?

now you're feigning ignorance of your own knowledge, foofie. or maybe you're just indoctrinated by faux news.

are jews less devout than moslems? do "orthodox" jews follow the exact same codes in the middle east and the united states? or is there a bit of cultural difference?

there are cultural differences between "devout" moslems in different countries also. you seem to imply there aren't devout moslems living in the united states already.

i'm sure they can live here as easily as orthodox followers of any other religion.

Crazy John dead.

Well, let's be specific. Orthodox Jews don't have to wash their feet before prayer. Male Orthodox Jews only (have to) pray ONCE in the morning upon awakening. Jews only fast once a year on one day (Yom Kippur - their Day of Atonement).

Orthodox Jews do have to get home before sunset on Friday to observe the Sabbath, so they either work in an Orthodox Jewish owned business, that closes early on Fridays, or they are accomodated with flex-time. And they do live in an Orthodox community, since they must walk to synagogue on the Sabbath, rather than drive, so the neighborhood starts its work week on Sunday rather than Monday. Oh yes, and like Moslems, they do circumcise their male infants for reasons that are religious, but is actually to the benefit of their wives' health (lower rate of cancer of the cervix for Jewish wives).

And, Orthodox Jews are a fraction of the Jews in the U.S. Most of the Jews in the U.S. are secular.

I do believe to be an Orthodox Jew does limit participation in society, since this is a predominantly Christian society. It would be hard to be a practicing Orthodox Jew in the military, I believe. There are secular Jews in Westpoint, but I would be surprised if there were any Orthodox Jews.

Since Israel does stop all commerce before the Sabbath, being an Orthodox Jew in Israel is not a problem. They are in the military, the police, fire department, etc., etc. It is a Jewish society (and Moslem).

So, I still question whether a Moslem population can adapt well to the U.S. Christian society.