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Rainsoft Noise

 
 
jed1177
 
Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:08 am
I have a 1989 era Rainsoft Softner with the mechanical timer, green bullet type tank. Sorry, I cannot find the model number anywhere but did find the serial number G82317 on the brass valve assembly.

Since it was new, it worked fine until recently. Pin sheared. I disassembled the top end (this is my second rainsoft by the way) cleaned the valve and o rings. lubed, replaced the pin and everything worked fine again (quietly).

About two months later, we were woken at 3am to an ungodly noise during the entire brine cycle. Loud pipe rattling type noise. Noise stops when it cycles out of the brine and into the Soak only to return again when the Rince starts. Softner seems to be working fine except the terrible noise.

I cleaned the hard water inlet screen, cleaned the poppet and o ring.

I have a whole house water filter in the incoming line ahead of everything. It, like the softner, has been in place since 1989 with no problems. Routinely change the filter as needed and never have experienced any problem before.

Any suggestions......can't take the noise much longer!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 06:13 am
It sounds like the brine shut off tab is loosing it's seal.
You should replace both brine and drain tabs at the same time.

HTH ~
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jed1177
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 05:19 pm
Rainsoft Noise
Good thing for bad luck! Last night after sending my first e-mail, the softner was just about the 12 minute mark in the brine cycle and although noisy seemed to be working. I retired for the night (morning).

At around 6 am, she was still running and exactly at the same 12 minute mark in the brine cycle. Now it appears that my timer (clock) has quit working.

I manually finished each cycle this morning and physically timed them accordingly to the end. Water is not soft.

Any ideas on the new problem or should I just trash this thing and get it over with. If so, can you recommend a new unit and are you better off renting monthly or buying.

Thanks in advance.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 05:31 pm
If the clock is keeping time it's probably a worn out index lever.

I can refurbish an old brass RainSoft valve, but parts are extremely
scarce because the old valve is obsolete. It has been for a few years.

Options I give my clients:

Replace the old valve and brine tank with a Metered Digital Fleck 2510SE or have
a brand new softener installed. Both deliver many years of efficient reliable service.

HTH ~
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jed1177
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 05:54 pm
Rainsoft Noise
I think it's time for the Rainsoft to move on.

Is the Metered Digital Fleck 2510SE the entire system I should ask for or is there a specific model (system) (specs)?

I've not researched a softner for 18 years and would like to skip everyones sales talk.

I have a four bedroom home with four occupants (two teens).
Thanks.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 07:50 am
Chlorinated municipal H2O or private well?
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 07:56 am
I agree, your Rainsoft has earned its retirement.

I say you need to renew your softener research.

You can begin by reading the softener threads here.

Then take a look at the Clack WS-1 control valve if you want to be a DIYer and replace a part when needed. IMO it is a better valve than the 2510 because it has more important features. It is the easiest control valve to work on. If you can read English and understand a picture anyone can totally rebuild one and have the water back on in 30 minutes.

And the prices for parts are much less than for any other control valve; especially Fleck.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 01:00 pm
Re: Rainsoft Noise
jed1177 wrote:


Is the Metered Digital Fleck 2510SE the entire system I should ask for or is there a specific model (system) (specs)?


If you go with an assembled system from a local dealer it is the control valve I suggest.
They are super reliable and rarely need service. Any needed service is easily performed by your local H2O professional.

If you want the very best equipment available with all of the features (bells & whistles) look no further than your local EcoWater dealer.

Good luck Very Happy
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 07:48 pm
I was a local independent dealer for 20 years and always assembled the softeners or filters I sold. All the other local independent dealers did the same. So did some well drillers and plumbers and so did the Kinetico and Culligan dealers when they sold other than their national brand equipment.

IMO it is extremely rare for an independent dealer to recieve assembled softeners, they can only be shipped by truck. UPS and FedEx will not do it because they weight too much when assembled. Plus, a distributor usually will charge $100-$150 more each if they assemble it. So I'd worry about an independent dealer that didn't assemble their own softener, and know it was done right with the correct 'things' in the right volume etc..
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 07:53 pm
Clear as mud
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 08:10 pm
You'd probably have trouble understanding how to assemble a softener too.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 07:09 am
Gary Slusser wrote:
You'd probably have trouble understanding how to assemble a softener too.

You claim to produce and assemble everything you sell.
You also claim your system installs itself and never needs service.
Please explain yourself.
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 08:04 am
I didn't want to mention it but I guess it's past time that I do....

Your comment about assembled equipment makes you sound as if you are buying your FleckSE stuff from the local plumbing supply house; fully assembled and programmed for you.

I'm thinking they size and repair it for you too. Just like they do for plumbers. The Fleck you asked about on the Fleck forum, you ever get it fixed or did you replace it?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 08:23 am
I didn't want to mention it but I guess it's past time that I do.... your comments make you look and sound like a spoiled child.

You continue to stalk me and yet you know nothing about me.

I bet the few customers you have wish you would spend more time caring about their satisfaction than trying to figure out H2O MAN.
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:23 am
I know you were a Rainsoft dealer that now has a local, but not in your hometown, independent dealership selling your FleckSE stuff in Athens GA. And that your H2zero_Man web site pictures you in Superman spandex tights while you wave the American flag and an assault rifle... AND that you say you aren't an Ecowater dealer but you say you are approved or allowed whatever, to sell Ecowater through a local Ecowater dealer, which is in Athens IIRC; or is that the local Rainsoft dealer..... And you have Ecowater on both the h2zeroman.us and the athenswater.com web sites.

You also say you have been helping many ex Rainsoft customers by swapping the control on their softeners etc.. And that you have some parts for some RS valves.

I know you aren't sizing equipment correctly because of your statements that the peak demand gpm doesn't have to be used to size equipment; just the hardness and number of people you say.

I also know that most if not the vast majority of Rainsoft and Ecowater dealers are the biggest ripoffs in the industry and that you are or have been affiliated with one or both of them for over the last 20 years and that you are STILL affiliated with them.

And if I'm missing anything about you, I don't see where I need to know it. Smile
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 11:41 am
Laughing - you really don't know much of anything!

Demand for what you think you know peaked decades ago.
Do the right thing, retire and drive your home on wheels around the country.
Enjoy the twilight of your life.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 12:08 pm
Gary Slusser wrote:
I know you were a Rainsoft dealer that now has a local, but not in your hometown, independent dealership selling your FleckSE stuff in Athens GA. And that your H2O_MAN web site pictures you in Superman spandex tights while you wave the American flag and an assault rifle...


I've never been a RainSoft dealer, but I did work for a few. I am an independent H2O specialist.
I do particpate in the Pentair Water Velocity Pro Dealer Program selling, installing and servicing Fleck 2510SE control vales.
Do you really want to see me in Spandex tights?
It's obvious that you would not know an assault rifle if it bit you on the ass.





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AND that you say you aren't an Ecowater dealer but you say you are approved or allowed whatever, to sell Ecowater through a local Ecowater dealer, which is in Athens IIRC; or is that the local Rainsoft dealer..... And you have Ecowater on both the H2O_MAN.US and the athenswater.com web sites.

You also say you have been helping many ex Rainsoft customers by swapping the control on their softeners etc.. And that you have some parts for some RS valves.


I am not an EcoWater dealer, but I am authorized to sell their equipment locally.
I will help any RainSoft customer I can. I have replaced hundreds of obsolete brass RainSoft filter valves with Fleck 2510SE control valves and a growing number of RS softener valves with Metered Fleck 2510SE valves.

You really don't know much of what you claim to know...
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 03:18 pm
I finally got you to admit all that here though... LOL

It sounds as if you'd be totally surprised as to what I know about rifles and other guns.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 03:30 pm
Gary Slusser wrote:
I finally got you to admit all that here though... LOL

It sounds as if you'd be totally surprised as to what I know about rifles and other guns.


I would have to be hiding something all along in order to admit "all that" now.
I admitted nothing because I have hidden nothing.

You knowledge of rifles and other guns may be adequate, but you still don't have a clue what rifle was pictured.
If you did, you would have known that is not an assault rifle.
I'm sure you will dazzle us all with you superior knowledge of firearms . . . I can't wait.

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jed1177
 
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Reply Tue 16 Oct, 2007 05:04 pm
H2O Man
I took your advise and visited my local ECOWATER Dealer. I asked about the 2510SE and, like you, he highly recommended it and also mentioned that is what they routinely install for their rental units.

Althought the 2510SE is great, he recommended the ESD2500 at either 30,000 grn or 40,000grn as a slightly better unit (said it runs more efficiently).

Help me out here from someone who obviously knows, which one should I buy?
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