UN at it Again

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with almost $13 billion in arms export agreements in 2005

The US is by far the most agressive nation on the earth.

Politically, environmentally and socially.

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dadpad wrote:

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with almost $13 billion in arms export agreements in 2005

The US is by far the most agressive nation on the earth.

Politically, environmentally and socially.

Environmentally? Really? You reading Al Gore?

China is the real culprit. They even poison our toys and food.

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cjhsa wrote:

China is the real culprit. They even poison our toys and food.

Besides that you seem to have never read and understood aything about the small arms treaty, you missed completely that Mattel apologised to China for damaging its reputation last month: it was "homemade".

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

China is the real culprit. They even poison our toys and food.

Besides that you seem to have never read and understood aything about the small arms treaty, you missed completely that Mattel apologised to China for damaging its reputation last month: it was "homemade".

Mattel put the lead in chinese paint? Who knew???

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You should listen to the news, watch them or read the papers.
Such educates.

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Mattel apologized for a "design flaw". They were so afraid of having to move operations back to the expensive USA instead of being able to pay cheaper than dirt wages in China, they felt they had no choice but to take part of the responsibilty (which they will anyway when the lead poisoning cases come to court).

Simple answer: Buy locally produced goods. Hunt for your own food. Be a part of the process - not part of the problem.

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cjhsa wrote:

Simple answer: Buy locally produced goods. Hunt for your own food. Be a part of the process - not part of the problem.

If you are going to hunt for your own food, why not also produce your own goods?

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Intrepid wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

Simple answer: Buy locally produced goods. Hunt for your own food. Be a part of the process - not part of the problem.

If you are going to hunt for your own food, why not also produce your own goods?

In many ways I do.

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While I enjoy owning guns, I do not foresee a time when a foreign power (the UN) will ever have a say on American law or the constitution. Other countries around the world do not have much similar to the second amendment and they are free to get together and determine what is best for them.

Americans are far too stubborn about gun rights and even if something like this passes, it will never touch American shores. Well, I mean unless Democrats get into power and have solid, overwhelming control of all 3 branches of government.

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even though the focus now is on setting standards for arms exports and imports.

We wouldn't possibly want to prevent terrorists from importing guns.

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McGentrix wrote:

While I enjoy owning guns, I do not foresee a time when a foreign power (the UN) will ever have a say on American law or the constitution.

About the United Nations

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Maybe you could make your point less vague Walter?

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It's crystal clear - The UN in large part is us.

Cycloptichorn

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McGentrix wrote:

Maybe you could make your point less vague Walter?

What Cycloptichorn said.
The USA founded the UN, are one THE FIVE veto-powers ... If you call that a foreign power, okay.

May I ask you what p o w e r the UN has got in your educated opinion? "Teethless" you called them .... at least three times according to A2K-search.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Maybe you could make your point less vague Walter?

What Cycloptichorn said.
The USA founded the UN, are one THE FIVE veto-powers ... If you call that a foreign power, okay.

May I ask you what p o w e r the UN has got in your educated opinion? "Teethless" you called them .... at least three times according to A2K-search.

So, how is any of that contrary to what I said? Perhaps your head is so far up your ass you failed to read what I wrote?

Let me quote it for you.

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I do not foresee a time when a foreign power (the UN) will ever have a say on American law or the constitution.

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McGentrix wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Maybe you could make your point less vague Walter?

What Cycloptichorn said.
The USA founded the UN, are one THE FIVE veto-powers ... If you call that a foreign power, okay.

May I ask you what p o w e r the UN has got in your educated opinion? "Teethless" you called them .... at least three times according to A2K-search.

So, how is any of that contrary to what I said? Perhaps your head is so far up your ass you failed to read what I wrote?

Let me quote it for you.

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I do not foresee a time when a foreign power (the UN) will ever have a say on American law or the constitution.

The point is that the UN isn't a foreign power at all. We can veto any decision they make, because for all intents and purposes we are the major and senior member of the UN. So you're presenting a false dichotomy.

Cycloptichorn

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Please do try to remember that the U.N. security council is NOT the U.N. general assembly and that we do not have any veto powers amongst the general assembly. We have one vote, just like every other country.

You did realize that, right?

And YES, the UN is a foreign power.

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Please do tell what power anything has that is proclaimed by the General Assembly.
Thank you.

Is it constituinal that the USA is a member of a foreign power?
Thank you for US-constitunial expertise in advance.

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McGentrix wrote:

Please do try to remember that the U.N. security council is NOT the U.N. general assembly and that we do not have any veto powers amongst the general assembly. We have one vote, just like every other country.

You did realize that, right?

And YES, the UN is a foreign power.

You do realize that the General assembly can't do anything binding without the force of the Security council behind it?

C'mon, man, try a little harder. You are presenting a false dichotomy; the UN cannot be viewed seperately from the US, b/c we make up a huge part of it and supply it with legitimacy.

I know it's quite en vogue for you Conservatives to rail against the UN, but it's hardly a 'foreign power.' Hell, the headquarters are in New York, for chrissakes!

Cycloptichorn

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