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Seymour Hersh: Administration's plan for Iran

 
 
Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 09:07 am
Iran is so entrenched in Iraqi Shiite circles that any "proxy war" could be as much through the Iraqi state as against it. The crux of the Bush Administration's strategic dilemma is that its decision to back a Shiite-led government after the fall of Saddam has empowered Iran, and made it impossible to exclude Iran from the Iraqi political scene.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 11:09 am
"Another recent incident, in Afghanistan, reflects the tension over intelligence.!"

Can i get some clear and candid definition of INTELLIGENCE.
Accept my thanks without regrets
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paull
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:05 am
Hersh, despite his NPR baritone, hasn't been right about anything for a long time.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:22 am
paull
paull wrote:
Hersh, despite his NPR baritone, hasn't been right about anything for a long time.


Sez who? Can you site examples of Hersh not being "right about anything?" Does your dislike of the truth-telling Hersh demonstrate your bias?

BBB
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 08:33 am
I hate all Iranians, US aide tells MPs

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She made it clear that although the US had no plans to attack Iran, it did not rule out doing so if the Iranians ignored warnings not to develop a nuclear bomb.


Bolton calls for bombing of Iran

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"I don't think the use of military force is an attractive option, but I would tell you I don't know what the alternative is.
"Because life is about choices, I think we have to consider the use of military force. I think we have to look at a limited strike against their nuclear facilities."


Rember the lead up to the Iraq invasion started with all this rhetoric and for a while in Iraq the administration has been shifting its energy and rhetoric towards the charges of Iran supplying weapons to the Shia militias. (As though that is an excuse even if it was proved to be true with the Saudis supplying the Sunni insurgency.)
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 6 Oct, 2007 07:53 am
Who Wants To Bomb Iran? Democrats, Not Republicans, Says Seymour Hersh
by Jon Wiener
Posted October 4, 2007

The following piece is part of an ongoing series of OffTheBus reports by citizen policy experts critiquing different aspects of Campaign 08.

When George Bush and Dick Cheney talk about their plans to bomb Iran, they are told "You can't do it, because every Republican is going to be defeated"--that's what a Republican former intelligence official told legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh. "But," the former official went on, "Cheney doesn't give a rat's ass about the Republican worries, and neither does the President."

I recently spoke with Hersh, whose new piece, "Target Iran," is featured in The New Yorker this week.

When I asked Hersh who wants to bomb Iran, he said, "Ironically there is a lot of pressure coming from Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Obama, and Edwards have all said we cannot have a nuclear-armed Iran. Clearly the pressure from Democrats is a reflection of - we might as well say it - Israeli and Jewish input." He added the obvious: "a lot of money comes to the Democratic campaigns" from Jewish contributors.

But while Democrats argue that we must "do something" about an Iranian nuclear threat, Hersh says the White House has concluded their own effort to convince Americans that Iran poses an imminent threat has "failed." Apparently the public that bought the story of WMD in Iraq is now singing the classic Who song, "Won't Get Fooled Again."

Moreover, Hersh reports, "the general consensus of the American intelligence community is that Iran is at least five years away from obtaining a bomb" - so the public is right to be skeptical.

As a result, according to Hersh, the focus of the plans to bomb Iran has shifted from an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities to an emphasis on the famed "surgical strikes" on Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities in Tehran and elsewhere. The White House hopes it can win public support for this kind of campaign by arguing that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is responsible for the deaths of Americans in Iraq.

Why don't Bush and Cheney "give a rat's ass" about getting Republicans reelected to the Senate and the House in 2008? "Of course that was hyperbole to make a point," Hersh said. "When it comes to choice between bombing Iran and taking some political heat, the president will do what he wants. Look, no decision has been made, no order has been given, I've never said it's going to happen. But I had breakfast this morning in Washington with somebody who's close to a lot of military people, and there's a sense among them that the president is essentially messianic about this. He sees this as his mission. It could be because God is telling him to do it. It could be because his daddy didn't do it. It could be because it's step 13 in a 12-step program he was in. I just don't know."

The biggest problem in US relations with Iran, Hersh said, is that Bush refuses to "talk to people he doesn't like. . . . We dealt with China, we dealt with the Soviet Union in those bad days of Stalin and Mao. But there is no pressure whatsoever" coming from the leading Democratic presidential candidates demanding that Bush negotiate with the Iranians rather than bombing them.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 6 Oct, 2007 07:30 pm
Well, based on this article, it's about time the U.S. Navy gets to show their expertise.

My only thoughts: Remember the Alamo.
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