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Tico
 
Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 09:15 pm
So we have a provincial election coming up on October 10. *yawn* Pardon me.

I'm completely out of the loop -- no TV, don't read newspapers or listen to radio news. So, this referendum thing took me completely by surprise.

I read the Chief Electoral Officer pamphlet. I could go to the website for more information or pick up a newspaper but ... I figured someone here could give me a better, more succinct and apropos analysis! Mr. Green

Why would we want to complicate things with a Mixed Member Proportional voting system? (What a mouthful!)
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 10:30 pm
More continuity with proportional system
The mixed member system means traditional fringe parties like the Green Party that get more than three per cent of the vote, but not enough to elect candidates in ridings, would have a better chance of having at least one seat in the legislature.



In Germany where I live we have a proportional representative system which is far far far far better than the electoral system of India where the british system prevails.
What troubles you to uphold the proportional system?
Your neighbouring country USA has a different system .
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 10:20 am
I've been trying to read the various pamphlets that people are handing out at the subway stations. bleccch.

I think I'm going to try and find out what Joey Slinger thinks.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 10:33 am
http://www.thestar.com/article/258592

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I hope there aren't many people like my friend Doc Geezer, who says he's going to vote against the Mixed Member Proportional system of electing members to the Ontario Legislature for two reasons.

"The first is, I don't understand it. And the second is, I don't understand it."

I hope most of you will take the time to learn something about the proposed system. One thing you might learn is that, as of Tuesday, Belgium, which adopted proportional representation in 1981, had gone 100 days without a government.

You might not think this is particularly tragic, since Belgium is the Number 2 funniest country as far as the world is concerned. Unfortunately, the funniest is Canada.


I still don't know.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 10:56 am
http://www.yourbigdecision.ca/en_ca/default.aspx
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Tico
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 06:43 pm
Well, I forgot to vote. Actually, I think I have 20 more minutes before the polls close, but I'm tired, it's raining, and I'm not going to go. (Was it Plato who said one get's the government one deserves?)

I never did figure out the pros and cons to the referendum question, but I'm inherently biased against anything that complicates things. On the other hand this proportional thing might be a a good thing for the Green Party, for example, who consistently garner good popular vote numbers but never enough concentrated ones to make a difference.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 07:15 pm
i guess i'm coming late to this thread .
MMP would give all parties a representation in the provincial parliament that would approximate the actual votes given to parties (via their candidates ) somewhat better .
the major parties would still get most of the seats but would likely lose some .
the smaller parties would get some seats and should inject some new ideas into the political process .
since no party would get any "list seats" unless the get at least three percent of the popular vote , the only parties picking up any seats would likely be the NDP and the GREEN PARTY - real fringe parties wouldn't stand a chance .
canada , the U.S. and great britain seem to be the last countries sticking with "first-past-the-post" system - which suits the conservatives and liberals just fine - they likely will never lose under that system in ontario .
though the NDP under bob rae made it once - unfortunately the unions didn't like their "restraint" policies and turfed them .
hbg
hbg
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