Bush's Next Big Lie: 75% Reduction in Sectarian Violence

Bush's rhetoric is never about "drawdowns of our troops," it's always about "success." How can anyone miss this psycho's inconsistencies? Just because our troop casualty numbers are down doesn't mean there is "progress." It only means that the sectarian and el Qaeda went underground until our troops are "reduced" to pre-surge levels, but the more important issue is about the Iraqis. Their casualty numbers are up, they feel no security, they have less electricity and food, and more children are becoming orphans. If that's "progress," the world has become upside down!

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And shame on Petraeus for prolonging this already lost war for our country. He will be responsible for more of our soldiers getting killed, and spending our treasure for a lost cause. For how many more years?

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Just this month on Iraq civilian casualties:

Recent Events
Saturday 8 September: 56 dead
Baghdad: car bomb kills 15 in Sadr City -among the victims 2 barbers and 6 of their clients; mortars kill 2 brothers, Baladiyat; 11 bodies.
Diyala: 8 killed in various incidents -a child among them, killed during clashes in Muqdadiya; 3 bodies.
Kufa: bomb kills 5 in market.
Cheman village: 2 bodies.
South of Kirkuk: police find 4 bodies of people killed returning from a funeral.
Daquq: the bodies of 4 members of a family found. They were killed by their son's kidnappers, who had called the family claiming they were about to release him, but shot the family dead instead.

Friday 7 September: 25 dead
Baghdad: 8 bodies.
Kirkuk: car bomb kills 2; gunmen kill 3 people in a car.
Mosul: 3 policemen killed in drive-by shooting.
Saqlawiya: 2 policemen's bodies found.

Thursday 6 September: 59 dead
Baghdad: up to 31 reported dead in US air raid over Washash; roadside bomb, Zafaraniya; 12 bodies.
Tikrit: car bomb kills 3.
Kirkuk: 3 shot dead after prayers at mosque.

Wednesday 5 September: 36 dead
Baghdad: 15 killed by roadside bomb, Sadr City; 11 bodies.
Mosul: PDK member shot dead; suicide bomber attacks police checkpoint, kills policeman; 6 bodies.

Tuesday 4 September: 28 dead
Baghdad: car bomb, roadside bomb kill 6, Zayouna; US forces kill 2 in house raid, Zayouna; 8 bodies.
Mosul: 4 killed in shootings.
Al-Siniya village: 3 security men shot dead.
Galozi village: body of young woman found.

Monday 3 September: 38 dead
Baghdad: car bombs kill 5; 8 electricity workers abducted and killed; 15 bodies.
Dujail: raodside bomb kills child.
Mosul: Al-Iraqiya reporter shot dead; 2 members of Democratic Party of Kurdistan shot dead.
Najaf: gunmen kill assistant police chief of Kufa.

Sunday 2 September: 41 dead
Baghdad: 9 killed by car bomb, Kadhimiya; 13 bodies.
Kut: policeman killed in clashes; 6 bodies.
Diwaniya: 6 bodies.
Mussayab: 2 bodies.

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The conclusion that Bush and Petraeus draws from their "we are making some progress" is based on US soldiers casualty numbers are down (temporarily), but it doesn't matter about Iraqis getting killed and maimed.

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Americans Feel Military Is Best at Ending the War
By STEVEN LEE MYERS and MEGAN THEE
Americans trust military commanders far more than the Bush administration or Congress to bring the war in Iraq to a successful end, and while most favor a withdrawal of American troops beginning next year, they suggested they were open to doing so at a measured pace, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

On the eve of what is sure to be a contentious debate on Iraq, the results underscored the benefits to the White House of entrusting the top American commander in Iraq, Gen. David H. Petraeus, to make the case that an increase in American forces this year had been successful enough to continue into next year.

Today, General Petraeus will appear on Capitol Hill along with the American ambassador to Iraq, Ryan C. Crocker, in what has become the most anticipated testimony from a military commander in decades.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/washington/10poll.html?ei=5065&en=f3bf0b3b561cebe1&ex=1190088000&adxnnl=1&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1189429234-RhKsVhlctFLxVI0y4Akjqw

Let's see, who has more creditbility, Oberman, Alder, or our military commanders.

Ithink I'll go with the military.

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woiyo has fallen into the same trap as Powell, Rice, and almost everybody in this administration; they see progress where there are none.

They refuse to acknolwedge the higher death toll, and the lack of security that only worsens every year.

Blind, ding-bats.

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Security in Iraq still elusive

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This is just part of the article; the rest at the source in the title.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

woiyo has fallen into the same trap as Powell, Rice, and almost everybody in this administration; they see progress where there are none.

They refuse to acknolwedge the higher death toll, and the lack of security that only worsens every year.

Blind, ding-bats.

So once again, we have you who knows better than our military about the actual conditions on the ground.

You put your faith in Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy but not the troops on the ground.

You are the reason this govt and this nation is falling into uncertain, insecure times.

So go back to name calling since you do not have the intellectual capacity to objectively analysis anything but your belly-button.

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woiyo wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
woiyo has fallen into the same trap as Powell, Rice, and almost everybody in this administration; they see progress where there are none.

They refuse to acknolwedge the higher death toll, and the lack of security that only worsens every year.

Blind, ding-bats.

So once again, we have you who knows better than our military about the actual conditions on the ground.

You put your faith in Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy but not the troops on the ground.

You are the reason this govt and this nation is falling into uncertain, insecure times.

So go back to name calling since you do not have the intellectual capacity to objectively analysis anything but your belly-button.

You have the arrogance and audacity to claim that CI, or others who oppose the war, have no authority to understand conditions on the ground, even in the 21st century with embedded troops, the far reaches of the bloggers in the blogosphere, and the MSM etc, yet somehow maintain that CI is personally responsible for the deplorable condition of the nation.

Pretty bold, albeit contradictory, set of statements. One statement makes CI sound awfully uninformed and ignorant, the other, powerful enough to sway 300 million people. Interesting perspective to say the least.

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woiyo wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
woiyo has fallen into the same trap as Powell, Rice, and almost everybody in this administration; they see progress where there are none.

They refuse to acknolwedge the higher death toll, and the lack of security that only worsens every year.

Blind, ding-bats.

So once again, we have you who knows better than our military about the actual conditions on the ground.

You put your faith in Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy but not the troops on the ground.

You are the reason this govt and this nation is falling into uncertain, insecure times.

So go back to name calling since you do not have the intellectual capacity to objectively analysis anything but your belly-button.

It's very simple, really. When Bush and Petraeus continue to tell everybody that the surge is working but doesn't admit the failures. Hundreds more civilians dead every month, more people starving, less electricity, less water (necessary for life), and the open borders. FYI, Colin Powell was also a top military man on Bush's payroll. He lied to the UN and the world, and what he told everybody turned out to be lies. Do you need more "evidence?" More dead Iraqi civilians and open borders means there is no "progress" no matter how they bias their rhetoric.

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Another thought; when Petraeus spoke to congress before he took over as commander in Iraq, he told us that the war must be won on several fronts; two of the main ones being diplomatic and political.

Military success is only one-third of his original message, so how can he claim "progress" without addressing the diplomatic and politcal (broken) 'success?' He told a different story to congress today.

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Whoops, I meant "embedded reporters", not troops.

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woiyo wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
woiyo has fallen into the same trap as Powell, Rice, and almost everybody in this administration; they see progress where there are none.

They refuse to acknolwedge the higher death toll, and the lack of security that only worsens every year.

Blind, ding-bats.

So once again, we have you who knows better than our military about the actual conditions on the ground.

You put your faith in Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy but not the troops on tthe ground.

You are the reason this govt and this nation is falling into uncertain, insecure times.

So go back to name calling since you do not have the intellectual capacity to objectively analysis anything but your belly-button.

Who knows better than our military woiyo?

http://www.alternet.org/asoldierspeaks/60290/

Or perhaps you should listen to this soldier before you accuse this country of being in uncertain and insecure times. Troops inured to politics

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It's no use Parados. The right hates dissent and if there is dissent from the left, they hammer the left. If the dissent comes from a soldier, they hammer the soldier (or his family). It is irrelevent what facts are presented and by who. This is consistent from the run-up to the Iraq war (with their fake pictures, fake accusations and fake claims) to their handling of the current conflict.

You see, the lie must be repeated and repeated and repeated before it becomes truth. Dissent prevents the passage of these "truths".

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I wonder what the presidents general would have to say about that?

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That's the reason why I've been saying this war in Iraq cannot be won with 140,000 troops. The border is wide open, and once any town or village is rid of insurgents or al Qaeda, they return once the forces leave to fight another war in another area. It doesn't take a military strategist to see the simple strategy of war.

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Ambassador's conflicting testimony

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