Ghosts??? Or???

bathsheba wrote:
I definitely heard someone walking around upstairs - and it sounded like they had shoes on.


Obviously a case of lost soles.

The concept of multiple hypotheses doesnt preclude remnant energy freom a past existence.

Some things cannot be explained by empirical methods; these should not be discounted. We can't see air, but we know it's there.

I don't believe or disbelieve in ghosts, but there is a lot of unexplained phenomena out there. I just don't want it living in my house

bathsheba wrote:

Some things cannot be explained by empirical methods; these should not be discounted. We can't see air, but we know it's there.

I don't believe or disbelieve in ghosts, but there is a lot of unexplained phenomena out there. I just don't want it living in my house

It's ok to say that you don't know what caused something. You can just leave it at that.

It's also ok to dream up wild possibilities, like supernatural entities or teleporting aliens, but just remember that one extraordinary claim is just as good as any other extraordinary claim, so they don't really get you anywhere as far as answering your original question.

Yup. It's too nebulous a subject. I'll wear earplugs when I'm in that house.

Creaking is one thing , but a pattern of actual walking up and down stairs or opening doors so that its clearly audible and follows a pattern of direction (often going in circles) , is a bit strange. we had such an occurence at our house years ago and it went on for months until we had a "sensitive" come over and do a sweep through the house and give us her ideas.
Im a scientist and wholly respectful of empirical evidence and yet, I think theres something interdimensional going on whenever people report these manifestations.

It's interesting to see how people fill their voids in knowledge though.

After a generation of people growing up with Star Trek, you would think that footsteps from someone who isn't there (just as an example) would lead to speculation of transporter beams and people from the future. But many people still view such things as "ghosts" or lost souls. I wonder if those beliefs are more deeply grounded in our psyche and seem in some way more likely to us than other possibilities.

I agree, echi. The belief in ghosts and souls would require of me that I eject most of my existing worldview. It would require too great an adjustment, whereas extraterrestrials fit into that worldview quite easily. But if they spoke middle class english as they do on the startrek series I would probably have a stroke from cognitive dissonance.

I'm with farmerman on this one. I think there's too much evidence of "something" and not enough good explanations by way of things we're already familiar with.

farmerman wrote:

Creaking is one thing , but a pattern of actual walking up and down stairs or opening doors so that its clearly audible and follows a pattern of direction (often going in circles) , is a bit strange. we had such an occurence at our house years ago and it went on for months until we had a "sensitive" come over and do a sweep through the house and give us her ideas.
Im a scientist and wholly respectful of empirical evidence and yet, I think theres something interdimensional going on whenever people report these manifestations.

Supernatural. :wink:

I'm not suggesting a replacement of "something". That would imply that I knew the answer, which I'm plainly asserting that I do not.

(No problem.)

I suggest that it's something we don't yet understand because the explanations we have been able to come up with, based on things that we do understand, don't cut it. I think that our realm of familiarity (or things we do understand) is relatively tiny and so the likelihood of it being something outside of that is fairly high.