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Is This A Proper Act of Friendship ?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:20 pm
squinney wrote:
If I recall, David is a member of Mensa and would certainly know the dangers of mixing substances.

I'm guessing that his train of thought is something like: She's an adult.
She is responsible for her own actions. I can stop her from harming a child,
provide a roof to know she is okay that way, but there is a line ....

Or something like that.

Yes.
That 's about it, Squinney.

If I had created an oppressive environment,
she 'd have moven out, which she did, anyway ( 2ice ).

The farthest that I went was to prohibit her from smoking ( tobacco ) in the house.

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:27 pm
Montana wrote:
You did the right thing, David.

Thank u, Montana
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:31 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
When she became my guest, it did not occur to me to try to prevent her from getting rum; I do not run a prison.
You don't have to run a prison. You don't have to prevent her from getting rum. You can't control what another person does but, you can control what comes into your house.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The alcohol that she drank was her own property.
Re-iterating, we both knew, from her long term experience,
that combining her Valium with alcohol never had any ill effects on her,
nor any discernible effect on her.
Just because it hasn't yet, doesn't mean it still can't happen.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:32 pm
ehBeth wrote:
Too little, too late.

You're a sad excuse for a friend, David.

Goodness !

I must be a terrible person, Beth.

David
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:32 pm
dys, you totally made my day.
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:41 pm
Chai wrote:
dys, you totally made my day.
why is that
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:47 pm
TTH wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
When she became my guest, it did not occur to me to try to prevent her from getting rum; I do not run a prison.
You don't have to run a prison. You don't have to prevent her from getting rum. You can't control what another person does but, you can control what comes into your house.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The alcohol that she drank was her own property.
Re-iterating, we both knew, from her long term experience,
that combining her Valium with alcohol never had any ill effects on her,
nor any discernible effect on her.
Just because it hasn't yet, doesn't mean it still can't happen.

During the times that she was my guest,
I took her to restaurants,
some of them in the neighborhood.

On a few of those occasions,
she got falling down drunk,
but no permanent ill effects.

Sometimes people get drunk, once in a while.
Most of the time, its not that big of a deal.
Alcohol has not played a significant role in my life,
but I am not philosophically hostile to it.
I sometimes drink in restaurants,
tho I am not interested in keeping it in my home.

I wanted to act like a cordial host,
not like a prison guard.

As long as she were not going driving around,
on her way to crack houses, I was not particularly interested
in how much she had to drink ( which a lot of the time, was nothing ).
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:49 pm
hmm highly commendable to do your best in housing her and her child but you are only momentarily preventing the inevitable. It appears obvious she has a problem which is beyond her self control. Shame she cant put her child first instead of herself the woman needs proffesional help.
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 03:59 pm
OmSigDAVID
I can see your point. You did state she drank all that alcohol in your house and was taking valium also. I understand you don't want to or try to control what someone else does (if I am correct). So, if she was in your house and drank the alcohol and took a lot of valium and died right in front of you, how would you feel?

As I stated in my first post, I feel you did the right thing regarding the driving.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:02 pm
happycat wrote:
Yes David, I think you did the right thing.... for that moment.
It's not something that you would be able to do repeatedly.

So, whatever happened to her and Nancy?

After she moved out,
the second time, she committed herself to a hospital,
and then to a second hospital,
at which she got clean of her addictiion,
and she abandoned drinking also.

She moved to Las Vegas, where her sister and family had gone,
( she once called me collect, explaining that she had been in the Tropicana,
where she had been invited to leave, for non-payment,
and she was sleeping on the grounds, outside;
I believed her, and sent her some $$ so she and Nancy cud move back inside )
and later to California; between those 2 places.
Nancy is in her 20s, or 30s, and has her own little boy now.

Marilyn calls me occasionally.
She does not hit me up.
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happycat
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:05 pm
TTH wrote:
Chai wrote:
dys, you totally made my day.
why is that


I'm thinking that Chai is agreeing with Dyslexia's implication that David has difficulty discerning whether he was doing what a good friend would do.... whether he acted as anyone else would in this situation.
I believe that's why Dylexia brought up Asperger's Syndrome, since people that suffer from AS have difficulty responding correctly in some situations.

I know all about Asperger's - far more than I ever thought I would - and I've been told that many of our most brilliant scientists, doctors and inventors have been Asperger's people.

I find it disgusting that someone with the username of Dyslexia would make light of people with Asperger's Syndrome.
May we make private jokes about your disablility dys?
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happycat
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:07 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
happycat wrote:
Yes David, I think you did the right thing.... for that moment.
It's not something that you would be able to do repeatedly.

So, whatever happened to her and Nancy?

After she moved out,
the second time, she committed herself to a hospital,
and then to a second hospital,
at which she got clean of her addictiion,
and she abandoned drinking also.

She moved to Las Vegas, where her sister and family had gone,
( she once called me collect, explaining that she had been in the Tropicana,
where she had been invited to leave, for non-payment,
and she was sleeping on the grounds, outside;
I believed her, and sent her some $$ so she and Nancy cud move back inside )
and later to California; between those 2 places.
Nancy is in her 20s, or 30s, and has her own little boy now.

Marilyn calls me occasionally.
She does not hit me up.



I'm glad all are still alive and kicking.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:10 pm
TTH wrote:
OmSigDAVID
I can see your point.
You did state she drank all that alcohol in your house and was taking valium also.
I understand you don't want to or try to control what someone else does (if I am correct).
So, if she was in your house and drank the alcohol and took a lot
of valium and died right in front of you, how would you feel?

I 'd feel sad at her absence,
but neither she nor I believe in death.

We believe that death is a FAKE.
Fony as a $7 bill.
www.IANDS.org



Quote:
As I stated in my first post,
I feel you did the right thing regarding the driving.


I c.
Thank u.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:17 pm
happycat wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
happycat wrote:
Yes David, I think you did the right thing.... for that moment.
It's not something that you would be able to do repeatedly.

So, whatever happened to her and Nancy?

After she moved out,
the second time, she committed herself to a hospital,
and then to a second hospital,
at which she got clean of her addictiion,
and she abandoned drinking also.

She moved to Las Vegas, where her sister and family had gone,
( she once called me collect, explaining that she had been in the Tropicana,
where she had been invited to leave, for non-payment,
and she was sleeping on the grounds, outside;
I believed her, and sent her some $$ so she and Nancy cud move back inside )
and later to California; between those 2 places.
Nancy is in her 20s, or 30s, and has her own little boy now.

Marilyn calls me occasionally.
She does not hit me up.



I'm glad all are still alive and kicking.

Thank u, Happycat.

Before Nancy was born,
Marilyn was obsessed with her pussy cat; he was named Ebony.
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:24 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
TTH wrote:
OmSigDAVID
I can see your point.
You did state she drank all that alcohol in your house and was taking valium also.
I understand you don't want to or try to control what someone else does (if I am correct).
So, if she was in your house and drank the alcohol and took a lot
of valium and died right in front of you, how would you feel?

I 'd feel sad at her absence,
but neither she nor I believe in death.

We believe that death is a FAKE.
Fony as a $7 bill.
www.IANDS.org
I also see so thank you.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:28 pm
TTH wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
TTH wrote:
OmSigDAVID
I can see your point.
You did state she drank all that alcohol in your house and was taking valium also.
I understand you don't want to or try to control what someone else does (if I am correct).
So, if she was in your house and drank the alcohol and took a lot
of valium and died right in front of you, how would you feel?

I 'd feel sad at her absence,
but neither she nor I believe in death.

We believe that death is a FAKE.
Fony as a $7 bill.
www.IANDS.org
I also see so thank you.


OK
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:32 pm
KiwiChic wrote:
hmm highly commendable to do your best in housing her and her child but you are only momentarily preventing the inevitable. It appears obvious she has a problem which is beyond her self control. Shame she cant put her child first instead of herself the woman needs proffesional help.

She GOT professional help.
She has been free of any Valium for quite a few years;
maybe 20 or 25 years,
and she does not have much interest in drinking.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:32 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
Too little, too late.

You're a sad excuse for a friend, David.

Goodness !

I must be a terrible person, Beth.

David


I don't think you're terrible (based on this example), but I think a good friend would have done something before the woman living with you got into such a mess - especially with a child involved. I think you showed a distinct lack of caring about the woman and her child.

Money and a roof over a head are things a stranger can provide.

Caring, and intervention, they take love and friendship and courage.
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happycat
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 04:43 pm
ehBeth wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
Too little, too late.

You're a sad excuse for a friend, David.

Goodness !

I must be a terrible person, Beth.

David


I don't think you're terrible (based on this example), but I think a good friend would have done something before the woman living with you got into such a mess - especially with a child involved. I think you showed a distinct lack of caring about the woman and her child.

Money and a roof over a head are things a stranger can provide.

Caring, and intervention, they take love and friendship and courage.


I took his original post to mean that he wasn't involved romantically with this woman - she was just a friend that he offered to help for a while (twice actually.)
Simply because you open your home to a friend and her kid for awhile, doesn't oblige you take care of them as you would a family member.
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2007 05:21 pm
It sounds to me based on his posts that OmSigDAVID is and was being a
good friend.
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