Universal health care: Is it worth the long waits?

You'd think if it was that dreadful there'd be someone other than McCreith to reference (already have the case referenced in two other threads).

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There should definitely be more providers in under-serviced areas, but it's not quite as close to collapse up here as the group of articles featuring McCreith might suggest.

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I posted it (then edited it out) on another thread. I think there will be more lawsuits challenging the government's position on private health care facilities unless the Guaranteed Wait Times programs are successful.

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I suppose, this story must be very impressive for US-Americans.

How many MRI's examinations are there per 1.000 in the USA? In Canada?

(We had here 55 per 1.000 in 2001 [latest figure I could find], waiting time here [= in my smaller native town and a bigger city where MIL lives] is up to five working days. Just as anecdotal adding.)

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

I suppose, this story must be very impressive for US-Americans.

How many MRI's examinations are there per 1.000 in the USA? In Canada?

(We had here 55 per 1.000 in 2001 [latest figure I could find], waiting time here [= in my smaller native town and a bigger city where MIL lives] is up to five working days. Just as anecdotal adding.)

You keep commenting as though people actually give a **** what healthcare is like in Germany. What could have possibly given you that thought?

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Wow, what a pleasant and atypical response, McG. Actually, it's good to compare systems and information so improvements can be made on a regular basis.

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Mame wrote:

Wow, what a pleasant and atypical response, McG. Actually, it's good to compare systems and information so improvements can be made on a regular basis.

Every thread about the problems we have with American healthcare we get to hear the praises of the German system. Frankly, I don't really give a damn about the German healthcare system, how it works, how well it works, when it was created, who pays for or who uses it. If I cared about that I would ask about it in the international forum as Walter expressly asked me to do in threads past.

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HokieBird wrote:

I think there will be more lawsuits challenging the government's position on private health care facilities unless the Guaranteed Wait Times programs are successful.

Canajuns simply aren't as litigious as Americans.

When I compare the ratio of our files that go to litigation in the U.S. v those in the Canada - it's very disproportionate. Once you factor in the lawsuits originating in Canadian border towns/cities, it's even more striking.

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McGentrix wrote:

Mame wrote:
Wow, what a pleasant and atypical response, McG. Actually, it's good to compare systems and information so improvements can be made on a regular basis.

Every thread about the problems we have with American healthcare we get to hear the praises of the German system. Frankly, I don't really give a damn about the German healthcare system, how it works, how well it works, when it was created, who pays for or who uses it. If I cared about that I would ask about it in the international forum as Walter expressly asked me to do in threads past.

and you care about the Canadian system?

if you really did, and did the research, you'd be posting something quite different.

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McGentrix wrote:

If I cared about that I would ask about it in the international forum as Walter expressly asked me to do in threads past.

Canajun healthcare doesn't exactly belong in an American politics forum.

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It seems that you avoid the other option as you know people who are interested in debating you will post there.

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McGentrix wrote:

You keep commenting as though people actually give a **** what healthcare is like in Germany. What could have possibly given you that thought?

You are quoting and asking about universal healthcare.

I'm giving you details and a couple of personal experiences as well as data from one.

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Title of the thread says wrote:

Universal healthcare: is it worth the long waits?

And then

McGentrix cleverly wrote:

You keep commenting as though people actually give a **** what healthcare is like in Germany. What could have possibly given you that thought?

Ummmm.....possibly the title of the thread?! Laughing

I will make another comparison - and I lived in the U.S. for ten years, yet am able to receive health care at home in Slovakia as well. Here, I had to wait for 3 1/2 months (MONTHS!) to have my wrist seen by a specialist. I finally got an appointment at 9am. Even though the appointment was for a precise hour, I had to wait in the waiting room for 7 hours to get to the doctor.

I had a check up at a specialist in Slovakia. Saw my district doctor, got a referral, saw the specialist in two days. No waiting. That's the evil universal healthcare for you.

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dagmaraka wrote:

I will make another comparison - and I lived in the U.S. for ten years, yet am able to receive health care at home in Slovakia as well. Here, I had to wait for 3 1/2 months (MONTHS!) to have my wrist seen by a specialist. I finally got an appointment at 9am. Even though the appointment was for a precise hour, I had to wait in the waiting room for 7 hours to get to the doctor.

I had a check up at a specialist in Slovakia. Saw my district doctor, got a referral, saw the specialist in two days. No waiting. That's the evil universal healthcare for you.

Well, if our situations were reversed, my advice to me would be to get my ass back to the U.S.

So...... :wink:

(Unless you're being held here at gun point) Laughing

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that's very nice of you HokeBird. Always the gentleman.

That's a brilliant answer to shortcomings in health care system. Or in any other area. Everybody who doesn't like it, leave? That will surely fix all the problems.
You know I lived and paid taxes in the U.S. for over 10 years now. So I will not get my ass back anywhere. I am home. Whether you like it or not-not my problem. And when I'm home, I'll speak up about what I dislike. And I will compare things that I know from first hand experience, because that is the only way how we humans are able to evaluate things.

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dagmaraka wrote:

yet am able to receive health care at home in Slovakia

dagmaraka wrote:

Here, I had to wait for 3 1/2 months (MONTHS!)

My comments were based on the above, which apparently has now changed. Conveniently.

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hbird - here (with the three month wait), in dag's post, is the U.S.

As it was in her post - that you quoted.

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