Bin Laden -> US convert to islam and I'll stop war

i'd be curious to see which candidate bin laden supports.

Oh, and for the record, Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2003. So the 2004 footage they keep comparing this new tape to is actually of the same CIA actor. They dyed his beard this time around because it wasn't convincing last time. He still has the same nose though.

(Winston) "Does the Brotherhood exist?"

(O'Brien) "That, Winston, you will never know. If we choose to set you free when we have finished with you, and if you live to be ninety years old, still you will never learn whether the answer to that question is yes or no. As long as you live it will be an unsolved riddle in your mind."

I LOL at this statement. When has the CIA or FBI ever proven itself to be competent and able to prevent terrorist attacks? :beat:

Oh, and for the record, Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2003. So the 2004 footage they keep comparing this new tape to is actually of the same CIA actor. They dyed his beard this time around because it wasn't convincing last time. He still has the same nose though.

(Winston) "Does the Brotherhood exist?"

(O'Brien) "That, Winston, you will never know. If we choose to set you free when we have finished with you, and if you live to be ninety years old, still you will never learn whether the answer to that question is yes or no. As long as you live it will be an unsolved riddle in your mind."

No, the end game is to bankrupt the US. They learnt it from the US, when it lured the Soviets into Afghanistan in 1979 to drain them. How? Soviets would use paid soldiers and large expensive military hardware, which the US wanted to counter with "will work for food" jihadis and inexpensive small arms. This is what they are doing.

I agree Pino, I think it's mostly basement dwelling teens or university students. If you look at their level of intellect it's marginal at best. Someday they shall have to leave those paneled basement walls to work for a living, well not all of them the socialist will work towards getting a state cheque so they can write poetry or paint weird art.

No, the end game is to bankrupt the US. They learnt it from the US, when it lured the Soviets into Afghanistan in 1979 to drain them. How? Soviets would use paid soldiers and large expensive military hardware, which the US wanted to counter with "will work for food" jihadis and inexpensive small arms. This is what they are doing.

Klyph, I am 17, and wondering what advice you would have for someone who doesn't want to be part of the system you so neatly described.

Thank you for your advice Pino, I realise that I will change more than I can imagine in the years to come, but the problem is the world isn't changing. Well it is, but the prospects aren't very good. People fight for money, they kill each other and those around them for pieces of paper. That to me, even at my early age, is unacceptable. I have a choice as to what I will participate in, and what I will not, I will not be caught in this cycle. I don't enjoy being bombarded by propaganda everywhere I go, people telling me what I should want, what it is that I need, it is ridiculous, and superficial. I see what you mean by the statement that I am just now entering my radical years, but I see it as a necessity, it is almost a tradition, the advances we have had as a civilization came about through radicalism, revolution. As the expression goes, you don't change a winning team.

Dude, you can't know what you belong to or not at 17. You will change so much over the next 30 years, you'll be amazed. Presently, you're just beginning to enter your radical years. By 40, they will have faded and succumbed to practicality, big time. Give yourself time -- a lot of it. Focus on education right now, and the amassing of as much critical knowledge as possible. Eventually, you will forge your own truth, after decades of examining that of others. Good luck. Been there, done it, got'r done, and came up aces, after much toil and soul-searching.