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Which McCain will we see?

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 05:56 am
@cicerone imposter,
http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/090408_mcfight07.jpg
ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 06:03 am
@H2O MAN,
H20 Man... I get what you are saying. You wanted to see the McCain tried to regulate the sale of guns at gun shows. You wanted the McCain who tried to pass an amnesty for immigrants. You wanted to see the McCain stand up against the use of torture in the war on terror.

These are the things that made him a Maverick. But this is not the McCain we saw in that tepid speech.

Although he apologized for the conduct of Republicans... he then repeated Republican talking points with no indication that he will be any other than a typical Republican.

I see no indication he is going to stray from the Republican party line in any significant way.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 06:05 am
@ebrown p,
EP, the main point that you missed...

Obama is not qualified to be the next president of this republic!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 02:24 pm
@H2O MAN,
No, McCain only works for Bush - 95% of the time during the last congress.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Obama is not qualified to be the next president of this republic!
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 02:54 pm
@H2O MAN,
Obama is not qualified to be the next president of this republic! "

Why?
And how his opponent is qualified?

The following quote Obama- i am quite sure had read once in his life.( My observation after keenly following his words in this election campaign)

Mark Twain was painfully aware of many people's inclinations to go along with prevailing evils. When slavery was lawful, he recalled, abolitionists were "despised and ostracized, and insulted" -- by "patriots." As far as Twain was concerned, "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul."

With chiseled precision, he wielded language as a hard-edged tool. "The difference between the right word and the almost right word," he once commented, "is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." Here are a few volts of Twain's lightning that you probably never saw before:

* "Who are the oppressors? The few: the king, the capitalist and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat."

* "Why is it right that there is not a fairer division of the spoil all around? Because laws and constitutions have ordered otherwise. Then it follows that laws and constitutions should change around and say there shall be a more nearly equal division."

* "I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land."

At the turn of the century, as the Philippines came under the wing of the U.S. government, Mark Twain suggested a new flag for the Philippine province -- "just our usual flag, with the white stripes painted black and the stars replaced by the skull and cross-bones."

While the United States followed up on its victory in the Spanish-American War by slaughtering thousands of Filipino people, Twain spoke at anti-war rallies. He also flooded newspapers with letters and wrote brilliant, unrelenting articles.

On Dec. 30, 1900, the New York Herald published Mark Twain's commentary -- "A Greeting from the 19th Century to the 20th Century" -- denouncing the blood-drenched colonial forays of England, France, Germany, Russia and the United States. "I bring you the stately matron named Christendom, returning bedraggled, besmirched and dishonored from pirate-raids in Kiao-Chou, Manchuria, South Africa and the Philippines, with her soul full of meanness, her pocket full of boodle and her mouth full of pious hypocrisies. Give her the soap and a towel, but hide the looking-glass."

Twain followed up in early 1901 with an essay titled "To the Person Sitting in Darkness." Each of the world's strongest nations, he wrote, was proceeding "with its banner of the Prince of Peace in one hand and its loot-basket and its butcher-knife in the other." Many readers and some newspapers praised Twain's polemic. But his essay angered others, including the American Missionary Board and the New York Times.

"Particularly in his later years," scholar Tom Quirk has noted, "the fierceness of Twain's anti-imperialist convictions disturbed and dismayed those who regarded him as the archetypal American citizen who had somehow turned upon Americanism itself."
What Mark Twain had to say is all too relevant to what's happening these days. But policymakers in Washington can rest easy. Twain's most inflammatory writings are smoldering in his grave -- while few opportunities exist for the general public to hear similar views expounded today.

"None but the dead are permitted to speak truth," Twain remarked. Even then, evidently, their voices tend to be muffled.
http://www.juicycerebellum.com/solomon029.htm
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 02:56 pm
@Ramafuchs,
Ramafuchs wrote:

Obama is not qualified to be the next president of this republic! "

Why?
And how his opponent is qualified?


Obama is in it for Obama.

McCain is in it for America.
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 03:09 pm
@H2O MAN,
While I wish not toaccept your opinionated above response, I respect your views.The title of this thread is about the split image of a person who had served his country( Corporate controlled system) so far and now he is too old( Never in US History a guy was so old to dream for a post which affects the global tranquility .
Any TOm Dick and Harry can repeat
Patriotism
POW
Country first etc etc.
But not that that the innocent citizen of USA expects from a candidate .
ISSUES.
Problems.
decency.
peace and not war are the topics that arrest the attention of the voters.

Democracy is not American english but originated from Greece
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 03:20 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Ramafuchs wrote:

Obama is not qualified to be the next president of this republic! "

Why?
And how his opponent is qualified?


Obama is in it for Obama.

McCain is in it for America.


McDonald's: I'm Lovin' It

Nike: Just Do It

Chevrolet: An American Revolution
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 03:38 pm
@Gargamel,
A jocular answer which make me laugh .
Thanks.

If we seek to understand American foreign policy in terms of a rational engagement with international problems, or even as an effective means of projecting power, we are looking in the wrong place.
The government's interests have always been provincial.
It seeks to appease lobbyists, shift public opinion at crucial stages of the political cycle, accommodate crazy Christian fantasies and pander to television companies run by eccentric billionaires.
The US does not really have a foreign policy.
It has a series of domestic policies which it projects beyond its borders.
That they threaten the world with 57 varieties of destruction is of no concern to the current administration.
The only question of interest is who gets paid and what the political kickbacks will be.

monbiot.com
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