1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

USAFHokie80 wrote:

Umm... ever heard of Galileo? Religion is to blame for this. The church only apologized like 20 years ago for condemning Galileo and his theory of a Heliocentric solar system. Religion quite often seeks to retard education and understanding of our world.

You speak of 'the church' as if one person who heads up one organization speaks for all Christians in all places at all times.

It just ain't so.

The world is flat.

I think this all comes about because at least 50% of all americans are at or below the average amercian IQ.

maporsche wrote:

Chai wrote:

If, according to the totally unscientific fact that 54% of French people sitting in an audience believed the soliel revolved around the terre, does that mean they are much more fanatical about religion than Americans?

I wonder what a scientific analysis of the French would tell you.

You're basing all of this on Who Wants to Be a Millionare. Classic and typical.

If you bothered to read my prior posts, I realized that clip is an entire joke, and alluded to that. I said it was totally unscientific.

As unscientific as taking data collected for one purpose, connecting lake of knowledge to education level, math skills, study of science and trying to apply them to a total unrelated subject....religion.

Just like you assumed I believe 54% of the French believe this....talk about classic and typical.

and the third link [the 54% one] that shows this is apparantly not just an American problem?

You're changing the subject....What do you think about the fact 54% of a French audience believe the Sun revolves around the Earth? I think we're doing quite well at a mere 20%.

I notice no one starts a thread entitle "54% of the French believe the Sun revolves around the Earth" and if there was one, I don't think religion would be listed as a cause.

If you obviously can't speak as to why the French believe this, how can you speak to why Americans do?..........You like to pick and choose what you know something about. You know the population of the world are mostly idiots, you know why 20% of americans believe something, but can't express why 54% of another population believe something.

maporsche has got you... you do keep saying things like "fact" when it is no such thing. maybe you're one of that 20% here? :-p

asking USA to substantiate his belief

'Miracle Machine' -- Do Not Use Near Explosives
By David Becker July 10, 2007 | 12:27:35 PMCategories: Religion

An update on Uganda's "Miracle Machine" case, in which a self-modeled preacher used an magician's trick device to deliver electric shocks to parishoners, who readily accepted them as the force of God:

Police have turned the preacher's "Electric Touch" gizmo over to explosives experts for examination. And while they're still upset with the would-be holy man for using it to fleece the flock, they offer some grudging respect for manufacturer Yigal Mesika Company. Literature accompanying the device, they note, clearly states that it should not be used around computers or people wearing jewelery or other metal items. "It is also not supposed to be used in areas with explosives."

USAFHokie80 wrote:

You weren't taught that because it's crazy. My point is that the Vatican issued a command that Galileo must stop all discussion of his heliocentric theory and only recently did they apologize for this. It's scary to think that the only reason you were not taught the earth-centric solar system is that there is uncontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

Ah jeez, Galileo has been dead for what? 40? 50 years now?

Eorl wrote:

I think this all comes about because at least 50% of all americans are at or below the average amercian IQ.

Are you sure that's not the median?

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1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative.

Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical 'authorities' they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?

What a dangerous misstep.

Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.

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Faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. One does not need to believe in elephants because one can SEE the elephants and know they are real. The presence of knowledge excludes the need for faith.

Therefore faith demands ignorance.

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So evolutionists are just as ignorant as Christians. And most athiests believe in evolution. (There aren't many alternatives other than creationism and evolution.) Therefore, athiests are just as ignorant as Christians.