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Do Christians believe in ghosts?

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 05:11 pm
Thank you, so much, found soul. I had always felt that I would not be reincarnated again. I think I will. There is no greater sin than not saying I love you.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 05:24 pm
@plainoldme,
Smile

Love is a beautiful word that needs to be spoken in honesty and often ....

Even to yourself Smile

Dang knows how many lives I've led... Kind of see myself in some long dress amongst old buildings hope I wasn't one of those:)
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 05:59 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I do find it one of your more interesting anecdotes. As far as I'm concerned, it's the first credible evidence the moon landings were faked.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 06:09 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
Maybe, that's their purpose...

But for those that don't believe, they would never see one and think we are nuts if we have Smile

As kids, we could put it down to wicked imaginations, as Adults, science can explain it in their terms, mist etc,
but there really is no mistaking some things seen, way to hard to explain them to be anything in-different than a ghost.....
Some people LOVE to read.
For those of us who do, I recommend Forever Ours,
http://www.foreverours.com/
a book by Janis Amatuzio, M.D., the coronor of many counties
in Minnesota and in Wisconsin. I met her at her delightful presentation
to the Annual Gathering of American Mensa in St. Paul, Minn. in 2003.
Her writing is the essence of simplicity and ease of reading.
Her book sets forth her surprizing adventures as a coroner, concerning mostly
unexpected accounts rendered to her from surviving family members
of decedents who were committed to her professional care.
Those family members were in possession of very surprizing information.





David


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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 06:38 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
DAVID wrote:
(Some folks in this forum believe that 1 is far too many.)
FOUND SOUL wrote:
Can you explain that statement please.
For several years (since 2OOO, on Abuzz & here),
I have been advocating controversial positions favoring personal freedom,
at the expense of government jurisdiction. This was particularly true (until June of 2008),
in my support for personal freedom of self defense from predatory violence.
Since then, I have been less prolific in my comments on that subject
than I was before the US Supreme Court said that I am right.


Denizens of the forum who prefer collectivist authoritarianism
have found my philosophy abhorrent, to which is added my support of,
and use of, fonetic spelling and of fonts of different sizes and colors
to aid in the expression of my points. Much of this has been ill-received
and has become the subject of condemnation,
such that surely a goodly number of members of this forum
woud be pleased if there were fewer than 1 of me around here.





David
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 06:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I see.

I sometimes feel that when you are wanting to make a statement bold can help, or when you are in an amuzing mood, jacking up the type size is amusing..

I don't think there is anything wrong personally with people expressing themselves, we each have our own way of doing so.

My thoughts on all of that OmSigDAVID is who gives a darn.. It will annoy some people, others will see it with expression... So what, be you.

As for the books, I do love reading and learning and exploring it's called how much time I have that sometimes doesn't allow the same.. Being a work a holic, as well as an addicted FS as well as ... oh well maybe I have an addictive personality, another thread Smile

Still would like you to start a thread pertaining to the many exquisite meals you've been blessed to try.

And, lastly I'm a shocker sometimes with spelling, I am creative, artistic never really got into school books... So, warning in advance, don't pick on me:) Cause I won't care.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 08:06 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
I see.

I sometimes feel that when you are wanting to make a statement bold can help,
or when you are in an amuzing mood, jacking up the type size is amusing..

I don't think there is anything wrong personally with people expressing themselves,
we each have our own way of doing so.

My thoughts on all of that OmSigDAVID is who gives a darn.. It will annoy some people,
others will see it with expression... So what, be you.
Well, yeah, in my childhood, I believed in *being tuff*
but that 's not always the best thing to do.
Some of the members have entreated my mercy and importuned my compassion.
1 guy claimed that I gave him headaches and that I was driving him blind.
I think Osso said something like that too; more than 1ce. There were others.

The overwhelmingly general consensus of souls who were found
to return from human death have told us that on Judgment Day,
we judge ourselves, our incarnate lives, by 2 criteria:

1. Love

and

2. Learning.

I can 't claim to have been too terrific by either criterion.




FOUND SOUL wrote:
As for the books, I do love reading and learning and exploring it's called how much time I have that sometimes doesn't allow the same.. Being a work a holic, as well as an addicted FS as well as ... oh well maybe I have an addictive personality, another thread Smile
Yeah, I m not addicted to anything,
neither drugs nor alcohol, no smoking,
but I suspect that I have an addictive personality.
I was obsessed with a young lady named Joyce, for many years.


FOUND SOUL wrote:
Still would like you to start a thread pertaining to the many
exquisite meals you've been blessed to try.
I can't. I 've never carried a camera around, not even now that thay r so prevalent in fones,
so I've not taken any pictures. I 've been running the SIG for about 3O years now.
My memory is not too accurate nor inclusive qua our successes.
I coud not do much better that to say, retrospectively:
"in 2OOO, the pastry chef at the Coral Reef Restaurant
in the EPCOT Center blew my mind with Pineapple Upside Down Cake
and with Chocolate Marbled Cheesecake" (both of which r true).

The chef has since escaped; (sadly, very sadly).


FOUND SOUL wrote:
And, lastly I'm a shocker sometimes with spelling,
I am creative, artistic never really got into school books...
So, warning in advance, don't pick on me:) Cause I won't care.
I laud your libertarianism.
Words have been my lifelong playmates; good friends.
Spelling can be part of that.





David
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 02:28 am
Reply to anyone who doubt spirits exist....Go look up the show T.A.P.S. and I think even if you still find ways to disagree it's not spirits then it will at least broaden your perspectives...
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 02:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
But you do know it's never to late to learn "anything"..

If you are not addicted to anything but, was "obsessed over a woman" then you may actually have an obsessive personality. You have achieved in life and you would not have been able to do so unless you obsessed over the things you chose to achieve.

Shame on that, I love sharing fine dining Smile

I can speak, people can understand me. But you know? We are not going to learn things we are not interested in... I am a born salesperson, creative, marketer I don't need spelling, as when I write, my listings, or a magazine I had once, spell check was my friend and I employed someone to proof read.. We are all good at something and not good at everything, as it should be.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 04:12 am
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
But you do know it's never to late to learn "anything"..

If you are not addicted to anything but, was "obsessed over a woman" then you may actually
have an obsessive personality.
Yeah, I was thinking that,
but I have not spoken to her in over 3O years.
Enuf is enuf.
Now, I 'm glad to not
have her in my life.




FOUND SOUL wrote:
You have achieved in life and you would not have been able to do so unless
you obsessed over the things you chose to achieve.

Shame on that, I love sharing fine dining Smile
It can be fun.
U can form your own group, if u wanna.




FOUND SOUL wrote:
I can speak, people can understand me. But you know?
We are not going to learn things we are not interested in... I am a born salesperson, creative, marketer
Those r KEYS to PROSPERITY!




FOUND SOUL wrote:
I don't need spelling, as when I write, my listings, or a magazine I had once, spell check was my friend and I employed someone to proof read.. We are all good at something and not good at everything, as it should be.
SUCCESS is inevitable!





David
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 04:19 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David, honestly?

30 years to not have spoken to someone that however, you admired thought loved? Is aloooooooooooong time to have continued to have thought of her, may I ask why you are now glad?

It's funny, within the Restaurant Industry before in my time, it was all "boys" club, Rotary Groups raising money, Beef Steak and Burgundy all about good steak and red wines Smile As for women? they formed dating for 8, groups like speed dating, that came in later through the years.. A woman's club about fine dining? They would want men to pay for their meal Smile Seriously Smile

Although it is a thought.

Success to me is about never giving up:)
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 04:29 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:
Reply to anyone who doubt spirits exist....Go look up the show T.A.P.S.
and I think even if you still find ways to disagree it's not spirits then it will at least broaden your perspectives...
Regarding shows on the subject,
I suggest checking I SURVIVED. . . BEYOND AND BACK.

I thought that thay addressed the issue well: http://www.biography.com/tv/i-survived-beyond-and-back/videos





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 04:54 am
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
David, honestly?
Yes.


FOUND SOUL wrote:
30 years to not have spoken to someone that however, you admired thought loved? Is aloooooooooooong time
to have continued to have thought of her, may I ask why you are now glad?
I 'm conscious of the coldness of her nature.
I am conscious of my freedom from interference.
With her, I felt like I was walking on the proverbial eggshells;
with good reason, and with bad surprizes of temperament; very unexpected.



FOUND SOUL wrote:
It's funny, within the Restaurant Industry before in my time, it was all "boys" club, Rotary Groups raising money, Beef Steak and Burgundy all about good steak and red wines Smile As for women? they formed dating for 8, groups like speed dating, that came in later through the years.. A woman's club about fine dining? They would want men to pay for their meal Smile Seriously Smile

Although it is a thought.

I don 't mean for this to sound like boasting.
I offer it for its humor:
When I began my SIG, I just advertized the name n address
of the chosen restaurant and my own fone number for reservations.

After a while, the President of NY Mensa, Susan Heimlich,
suggested that I include "sensual adjectives" in my monthly ads; so, I did. It worked.
Attendance shot up like a skyrocket. This proved not to be gender neutral.
Respondents tended to be female; like 1OO%.
About 5O of them sat around our banquet tables.
Thay described themselves as being: "David's harem".






FOUND SOUL wrote:
Success to me is about never giving up Smile
What if u win in the beginning ???????





David
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 01:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Thank you! I will check that out later...have a great day, or night!! Wink Wink Wink
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2012 02:08 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Negative people don't often mix well with positive people. As we age comes wisdom too huh.

Haha... I can imagine how much fun you had then... She was wise to make that suggestion given "good food, good wine, good company" is a sensual experience.

It's still not about winning for me... It's about "achieving" .. I don't believe you can achieve at the beginning of anything other than getting to the first step, from there you keep achieving until you've won...Smile
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2012 06:04 am
@FOUND SOUL,
I personally believe you both could be right about this...

David:

Quote:
What if u win in the beginning ???????

Found Soul:

Quote:
It's still not about winning for me... It's about "achieving" .. I don't believe you can achieve at the beginning of anything other than getting to the first step, from there you keep achieving until you've won...
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theMadOne
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2021 06:30 am
@edgarblythe,
True Christians don't believe in "Ghosts", but their ARE demons...
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2021 07:08 am
@chemist,
It's more like Christian ppl have no real opinion on ghosts.

Christianity teaches that the dead are alive in Christ, that they have moved on. Gone to heaven. So ghosts hanging around this world are a bit less like Casper, and alot more like Hollows from Bleach. In fact, the word "demon" mostly refers to a "spirit".

We are also taught that Christ protects us from evil spirits, and is able to exorcise them.
theMadOne
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2021 07:44 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Thus, 'Christians' are NOT Christians- for they take the words of Clergy over the Bible.
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