2
   

What are you?

 
 
Montana
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 01:03 am
welcome to A2K Robwill :-)
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 09:17 am
Robwill, WELCOME to A2K. Exactly my sentiment; I'm alive. What else do I need? c.i.
0 Replies
 
rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 09:37 am
Fresco, I was afraid someone would ask that Wink
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 09:40 am
Tuber, Kuv, a tuber . . .
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 09:41 am
Wy, coo-coo-ca-joo . . .
0 Replies
 
twyvel
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:15 am
Hi rosborne979

You wrote:

Quote:

The assumption in the question is that I am the answer, that I am something tangible, something sensed, something thought of, something that can be grasped.


Quote:
I don't believe this assumption is inherent in the question. Your answers need not be restricted to the tangible, or even the probable.
[/b]

You might be correct and I agree our answers do not have to be restricted to the tangible or probable, but what I got from the question was that answers have to be 'something',... (if there is an answer). The assumption is that there are possibly answers that are observable, and knowable in some way or form.

What are you?

Like all questions points you in a specific direction, orients you, i.e. What’s asking this question? What's observing this question? What is this " I "...?

Is it this? Is it that? What is it?

It assumes it's an IT, a 'something', otherwise, what are you looking for apart from ‘something’,....something perceived or thought of ?

It assumes this "I " or “you” (in, What are you) is an observable in the observable universe of things and thoughts.

It assumes there is a you, and that this you has something to do with it’s ability to ask the question.

Quote:
Observing thought isn't like observing a reflection in a mirror.



Why not?

Quote:
Awareness isn't limited by causality, and as such, you can be both observer and observed. Right?


I'm not sure what you mean. Awareness is generally understood to not be a link in the chain of cause and effect.

Although it might be those causes and effects if it is what it is aware of. All of them, not a specific one.

{note: couldn't get rid of the large type....}
0 Replies
 
twyvel
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:19 am
roger wrote:

Quote:
Twyvel, thou art the ultimate soliphist.



Well I believe others exist, it just cannot be proven, but then what can...?
0 Replies
 
twyvel
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:37 am
fresco wrote;

Quote:
What does "what" mean ?

What does "are" mean ?

What does "you" mean ?


What does, What does "what" mean?, mean?

What does, What does "are" mean?, mean?

What does, What does "you" mean?, mean?
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:41 am
It is fitting that this thread is in the "Philosophy & Debate" forum--that goes a long way to explaining the silliness here to any casual reader who just drops by and makes it this far.
0 Replies
 
CodeBorg
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:48 am
I am what I write.
Does that make us silly?
Then by all means let us be silly or vapid or deep!
As long as we are the words, know the words,
and indulge whatever it is we find in our selves.

Today I am a pronoun.
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:50 am
"I" always be a pronoun, 'cept fer them as would quibble--i wish sometimes such-like folk would go back to arguing the number of angels capable of dancing on the head of a pin . . .
0 Replies
 
rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:51 am
Hi Twyvel,

When I asked the question, I was looking for opinions more than answers. And I actually liked your first answer quite a bit; very creative.

In the followup questions, I was wondering what you would say if I asked you to break away from your usual interpretation of the question itself, and to find a way (of your own choice) to answer it from a different perspective which might make more sense in your world view.

For instance, suppose I suggested that awareness is just another emotion, like anger, or joy. Not an observer or an "I" at all, just a feeling.

Mirrors involve the physical world, and our ability to relate to it, and to our senses. The physical world is a limiting factor. Thought doesn't involve this at all, you can do it with your eyes closed in a sensory deprivation tank. Thought might be causal in itself, but I'm not sure time applies if only any given instant is all that ever matters.

Have fun Smile

Best Regards,
0 Replies
 
rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:53 am
Exactly Setanta, Philosophy and Debate. A category that just begs for a squishy question Smile

Best Regards,
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:55 am
From that perspective, the only cogent answer is a sensory apparatus. That one might be incapable of demonstrating this to another does not alter that.
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:56 am
rosborne, What's a "squishy" question? Wink c.i.
0 Replies
 
steissd
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 10:59 am
0 Replies
 
Vivien
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 11:34 am
I am me - a jumble of questions and interests and worries and hang ups and insecurities ...
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 12:03 pm
Doesn't anyone else like that "I am star stuff" response.

Carl Sagan sure would be disappointed.
0 Replies
 
rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 12:14 pm
The physical parts of us are definitely star stuff (assuming that the physical world even exists at all of course), and I love that Smile

But the non-physical part of what we are is more like "Universe Stuff"; some crystalization of natural potential.

Best Regards,
0 Replies
 
Vivien
 
  1  
Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2003 12:22 pm
ok Frank yes!


We are stardust we are golden ....
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

How can we be sure? - Discussion by Raishu-tensho
Proof of nonexistence of free will - Discussion by litewave
Destroy My Belief System, Please! - Discussion by Thomas
Star Wars in Philosophy. - Discussion by Logicus
Existence of Everything. - Discussion by Logicus
Is it better to be feared or loved? - Discussion by Black King
Paradigm shifts - Question by Cyracuz
 
  1. Forums
  2. » What are you?
  3. » Page 3
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 03/09/2025 at 01:55:56