Abortion discussion

This may sound a bit insensitive, but why should the father be forced to pay for the child for 18 years if he himself does not want it? There are a lot of cases where women tell the man they are on the pill etc. even though they are not.

I know that forcing an abortion is inhumane and out of the question, but in many ways the woman seems to have to upper hand here. Financially, that is.

Partial birth abortion is something I cannot imagine anyone being able to do. Not even the mother, who doesn't see what's going on but the doctor who does it. What kind of person does that require??

Coolwhip wrote:

This may sound a bit insensitive, but why should the father be forced to pay for the child for 18 years if he himself does not want it? There are a lot of cases where women tell the man they are on the pill etc. even though they are not.

I know that forcing an abortion is inhumane and out of the question, but in many ways the woman seems to have to upper hand here. Financially, that is.

Tough luck, Coolwhip! Contraception is not only for women, in case
you haven't considered this yet. If you don't protect yourself, you're in
for the money, should she get pregnant and keep the baby.

And just think of the people who would abort knowing that their child had downs. Is that right?

Abort because the child will be challenged and cause you a challenge?


I wouldn't have bothered with the other tests to tell me if the "abnormality" was fatal of just a possibilty or just an inconvenience.

....but why wait so long to have one? And if your baby is going to die anyway, why not let nature take it's course instead of being the one to murder your baby? I understand the very real emotional trauma that having a baby die in utero...but what kind of person can just say "kill it"? What can you avoid by being the one to murder your own baby?

Only if he chooses to play that role, Coolwhip.

CalamityJane wrote:

Only if he chooses to play that role, Coolwhip.

I'm not saying I don't sympathize with single mothers, because I do.
But I think there should be more equality between the sexes in this
matter, people just assume the men are heartless beings that couldn't
care less what happened to the child.

The same goes when the woman performs an abortion, she doesn't
have to consult the father. Now this is just the natural order of things
but that doesn't mean it's not hard on the father.

I realize this is sort of beond the pont, since I initially argued that the
man shouldn't have to pay child support. But my point is that the father
should have some sort of say in all of this, and not be forced to sit
on the sideline.

So coolwhip....they shouldn't have to pay....but they should have a say?

Well, mostly couples decide together if they opt for an abortion or
carry the baby to term. What you're basically referring to is a situation
of ONS or if the couple doesn't know each other well, and she makes
a decision that is not to his liking. Ideally, if you were close enough to
make love, you should be close enough to consider the possibilities,
in case she does get pregnant. If you have unprotected sex and do
not consider the options, you clearly are inept to make a life altering
decision either.

One moment of drug-induced passion and your economy can take a serious turn for the worse.

The mother, however, has weeks and months to consider what option to take.

Or perhaps the father wants to keep the baby, in either case, he has no options, only responsibilities.

Don't you see an unbalance of power here?

Trust me, she won't take this decision lightly, especially if she cannot count
on the "father" to be there.
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Or perhaps the father wants to keep the baby, in either case, he has no options, only responsibilities.

He'll share the responsibilities with the mother if she decides to keep the
baby.