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Why Are Most Artists Liberal?

 
 
xingu
 
Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 06:28 am
Why Are Most Artists Liberal?
Wednesday, May 9, 2007
http://hatchling.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-are-most-artists-liberal.html

Boy, it's a weird coincidence that most artists are liberal, isn't it?

Is There a Conspiracy?

Over history, most artists have been state-sponsored, which means that the less liberal the artists, the more they would have been welcome. Since most artists (like Shakespeare and MoliƩre) still found a way to get their liberal licks in, one can only assume that there weren't any other really great conservative artists to be found.

Today, the driving force behind publishers and movie studios is money, not politics. One assumes that if a product was good enough, it would be published or produced nonetheless. Disney can attest to it, since even its Jewish executives supported Mel Gibson after his anti-Semitic ?'incident', because they had to sell Apocalypto.

In fact, hundreds of conservative non-fiction books are being published today, some of which become best-sellers. So if there was a lot of really great conservative fiction, some percentage of it would have found its way to publication.

And yet it hasn't.

It's almost as if you have to be a liberal to be a good artist. But that can't be true, can it?

Well, it can. And it is. Here's why.

(One exception: Storytellers limits itself to the storytelling arts (movies, TV, theater, prose), as opposed to the other arts (sculpture, photography, painting, architecture, poetry, etc.) about which I know very little.)

Stories Are Liberal
Stories, by their nature, have some sort of conflict. Otherwise, they would be boring. Conflict, by its nature, has at least two sides. To be able to write these two sides well, the artist has to understand, deep inside, that both sides are equally human. The more he portrays the other side as human, the better the story. The less human the other side, the more flawed the story.

That puts artists on the humanistic side of most ideological battles throughout history: against racism (the other race is people, too), against slavery (slaves are people, too), for feminism (women are people, too), for the rights of children (children think and feel just like adults), against child labor, for gay rights (homosexuals are just as human), for the downtrodden, for the poor (they are just like us, only poor), against most wars (because the other side bleeds red, too, and mourns with the same pain), and against most religions (in particular, against the religions that claim its followers are ?'the chosen' and those who are not will not get into heaven and/or are inferior in some way).

Oddly enough, this little rule does not necessarily put artists on the side of animal rights, since animals may be many things, but they are not human. This rule also does not put artists automatically on the green side of the debate. Earth, after all, is not a person and does not feel. What it takes for a person to fight for these issues when they were not popular isn't really a ?'requirement' for someone to be good storytelling artists.

Mark Twain in many of his stories and books shows us how slaves are just as human as you or I. In fact, he uses his stories to show his white readers that if they had been born with slightly worse luck, they would have been born slaves. And that they would have then acted just like slaves, too (and the fact that slaves acted like slaves made it easier for the white people to treat them as slaves).

SF author Jules Verne (1828-1905) was asked once why he doesn't have more women characters. He answered that when his plot needs a romantic interest, he puts a woman in the story. As you can guess, if you've never read his books, his characters, both male and female, are cardboard cutouts. To take nothing from the many great things that he has done as an author, that little thing, that inability to understand human nature, made him a worse artist than he could have been. Had he been more liberal (not as a pose, but in truth), his books would have been even better.

Arthur C. Clarke and Gentry Lee wrote in an introduction to one of their Rama II novels, that to write this book they had to understand women. And so they had sat down with their wives, had many long talks, and "now we understand women" (I quote from memory). Needless to say, anyone who says "now I understand women" doesn't understand women. In addition, of course, anyone who does not understand women does not understand people. You would not be surprised, I suppose, to find that their characters in this book and in the others each of them had written were also cardboard cutouts. Again, not to take anything from Arthur C. Clarke's great achievements (read his true classics, Rendezvous with Rama, Childhood's End, and 2010), he would no doubt have been a better artist had his characters been more human.

Dickens wrote many books about the plight and hardships of children. One couldn't read Oliver Twist, for example, without getting the feeling, deep inside, that children feel just the same as us adults and that many of the ways in which society treats children are unjust. Dickens' women are just as human as his men. Even his most ridiculous characters (and there are plenty of those) are ridiculous in a human way and feel love and pain just as any of us do. In fact, they are ridiculous in the same way we are ridiculous.

We've previously examined how David E. Kelly uses our inherent racism to get this same point across.

In conclusion, then, you don't have to be a liberal to be a good storyteller. But the better your story is, the more of a liberal you are. (Unfortunately for aspiring writers, that does not work the other way round: you cannot aspire to be liberal and hope that will make you a better artist.)

So, yes, most good artists are liberal. And it is not a coincidence.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 08:51 am
I consider animals as equal to me, even tho humanity has this huge ego which tells me i shouldn't.

But to be an artist you have to look at things in a different way, you have to use different perspectives.

That could be why they are usually liberal, they are good at looking at things from anothers point of view.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 11:56 am
Re: Why Are Most Artists Liberal?
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(One exception: Storytellers limits itself to the storytelling arts (movies, TV, theater, prose), as opposed to the other arts (sculpture, photography, painting, architecture, poetry, etc.) about which I know very little.)


This admitted omission certainly does muddy things a little. I wonder if the author considers Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Wallace Stevens, Igor Stravinsky, etc., to be legitimate complications to his picture, or whether he would be content to categorize them as exceptions that prove the rule. He says he is trying to restrict himself to "storytellers," but judging by the title of his blog entry, he seems to want to expand this notion to "artists," and that's quite a big leap.
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 04:36 pm
Bookmark.
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shepaints
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 05:14 pm
It seems to me that artists seek perfection rightly or wrongly (?). The artistic community is often idealistic in its view of the world and has a more laissez-faire attitude. Is this liberal?

Mainstream conservatives, however, seem to be more pragmatic and realistic in their approach, rightly or wrongly.......not that this is an earth shaking revelation!
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aidan
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2007 01:13 am
I think it has something to do with what traits seem to come innately with a creative mindset.

Creativity is marked by the ability or desire to create something new (not imitative or derivative) and is manifested by those who are able to look at a situation or circumstance in a different and unique way and then express that.
Artists who are truly creative and not derivative are not interested in the tried and true-they're more interested in possibilities for new expression and change. This would seem to mesh more easily with a liberal political ideology.

Shapeless- it's interesting that you mentioned Ezra Pound and Eliot (I'm not as familiar with Wallace Stevens' or Igor Stravinsky's mindsets). But do you think that their tendency to take conservatism to the extreme that they did, is in its own way as creatively liberal as if they were leftists? By that I mean that any radical deviation, whether it be to the right or to the left, is a departure from the middle or norm and so speaks to me of independent or free and somewhat creative thinking.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2007 11:57 am
It's an interesting way to look at it, Aidan. But that seems to me to be an excessively broad definition of "liberal." If we define "liberal" as departing from the norm, then sure, everyone can be a liberal. But the very broadness of the term seems to defeat the purpose of having it... seems like the word is sapped of its meaning if it is so broad that it can include things that are ostensibly its opposite. On the other hand, the notion of "liberal=innovative" is pretty consistent with the way artistic values have veen prioritized since the 19th century--namely, what we value most in art, even today, is innovation.

The case of Pound (and, for some portion of his career, Stravinsky) is also interesting because the work for which he is most well-known now was not created for the sake of "newness," exactly, but for returning to things that were "old." That is, Pound couched his work in the guise of restoration, reviving what he saw as older traditions that had been lost. "Make it new" is Pound's oft-quoted mantra: take the old and make it look new. The same can be said of Stravinsky's "neoclassical" period. It goes without saying that these "traditions" were as much a product of these artists' imaginations as of actual historical precedent, but if we are to go on what they said, we must acknowledge that Pound and Stravinsky were not after "mere" newness, but newly revived tradition, which seems pretty conservative to me. In more cynical but realistic terms, we might say that Pound and Stravinsky were using the authority of tradition to give credence to their otherwise traditionless innovations, but that only reinforces the point that "conserving" old forms was a more worthy endeavor to these artists than "liberating" them. (And, when you get right down to it, their actual political allegiances speak volumes about what cause they thought they were supporting through their art.)

It's also worth mentioning that the author of the blog seems not to be concerned with audience reception, which is a notable omission. Since the quality of art is something that is conferred upon the artist by beholders, the question of "why are good artists liberal?" seems to require that we also ask "why are liberal artists received well?" It seems to me that the author's question is as much (and maybe more) about us as it is about artists.
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:40 am
Shapeless wrote:
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It's an interesting way to look at it, Aidan. But that seems to me to be an excessively broad definition of "liberal." If we define "liberal" as departing from the norm, then sure, everyone can be a liberal. But the very broadness of the term seems to defeat the purpose of having it... seems like the word is sapped of its meaning if it is so broad that it can include things that are ostensibly its opposite.

Yeah, I guess I was thinking of the word less in any political sense and more in the sense of open-mindedness and a willingness to step outside prescribed boundaries- which those who espouse radical or extreme conservatism do in my mind as much and sometimes even more so than those who practice somewhat radical liberalism.


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The case of Pound (and, for some portion of his career, Stravinsky) is also interesting because the work for which he is most well-known now was not created for the sake of "newness," exactly, but for returning to things that were "old." That is, Pound couched his work in the guise of restoration, reviving what he saw as older traditions that had been lost. "Make it new" is Pound's oft-quoted mantra: take the old and make it look new. The same can be said of Stravinsky's "neoclassical" period. It goes without saying that these "traditions" were as much a product of these artists' imaginations as of actual historical precedent, but if we are to go on what they said, we must acknowledge that Pound and Stravinsky were not after "mere" newness, but newly revived tradition, which seems pretty conservative to me. In more cynical but realistic terms, we might say that Pound and Stravinsky were using the authority of tradition to give credence to their otherwise traditionless innovations, but that only reinforces the point that "conserving" old forms was a more worthy endeavor to these artists than "liberating" them. (And, when you get right down to it, their actual political allegiances speak volumes about what cause they thought they were supporting through their art.)

This is really interesting- and looking at it this way- I see exactly what you're saying. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.

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It's also worth mentioning that the author of the blog seems not to be concerned with audience reception, which is a notable omission. Since the quality of art is something that is conferred upon the artist by beholders, the question of "why are good artists liberal?" seems to require that we also ask "why are liberal artists received well?" It seems to me that the author's question is as much (and maybe more) about us as it is about artists.

Again, that's a really interesting aspect or question to consider- whether it's not only the fact that the people who are creating the art tend to be liberal, but also whether the people who experience and make judgments on the quality of the art are more often what would be described as liberal.

It'd be really interesting to do a survey that correlated political affiliation with favorite artists or art forms.
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:31 pm
We are (small) 'l' IBERAL because we see in greater detail than the average person, and feel more acutely; my definition of 'art' is "emotional communication".
[having said that, we are not all liberal, but do fit into the left end of the philosophical spectrum.]
[my, haven't been here for a while!]
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:36 pm
BoGoWo wrote:
[my, haven't been here for a while!]


I was thinking exactly the same thing . . .






































. . . you bicycle commie . . .
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:43 pm
well look who's here !

[actually it's 'bicycle go...ie!]

[how the hell are ya?]
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:56 pm
I ain't dead yet . . .



I consider that a positive sign . . .
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:59 pm
i suppose if you had been having your 'ups and downs',
you would consider that a negative co-sign.

[as the waves wave]
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 01:02 pm
Don't Bo Wo Go off on a tangent . . .
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 01:06 pm
i was just practicing a little 'tangential meditation'!

[i just had a run in with 'global worming'; something got into one of my computers, and it's just sitting there looking 'green'!]
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 06:07 pm
O.K., back to the thread question, why are artists more liberal than not. If that's true, one reason may be their bias toward the anti-authoritarian values of absolutism and objectivism. Most artists, at least now in the era of postmodernism, see the world in terms of relativism (rather than absolutism) and subjectivism (rather than objectivism). These are my biases and I consider myself an artist. Nevertheless, I hold onto the artistic values of modernism--for better or for worse.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 12:36 pm
For one, creativity, demands freedom of mind, and conservatism is constraining by definition.

Though on the political spectrum the farther right you are the more conservative and, theorically, the less government and more freedom you have. But it doesn't seem to work that way when being creative.

Liberals see from different points of view even to the point of being wishy-washy, but conservatives have a set agenda and tow the line. Creativity invites many mistakes and if you defend you creations you become limited by your own ego.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 02:32 pm
coluber2001 wrote:
For one, creativity, demands freedom of mind, and conservatism is constraining by definition.


Again, it seems to work on paper, and I'd be the first to admit that I want it to be true, but I don't think it works in practice. One doesn't have to look far in the history of any art to find great, conservatively-striped artists.

I also have to admit that there is something compelling about the (primarily modernist) notion of the "abyss of freedom"--i.e. that artistic constraints, whether self-imposed or decreed by someone else, can just as easily stimulate creative thought. One measure of creativity, after all, is the ability to manipulate and transform preexisting conventions. It's an aesthetic criterion that has less credibility today than it once did--that is why we consider Beethoven a greater composer than Rossini, even though early 19th century audiences considered them equally-towering giants--but it was a historical reality for centuries. There are some fascinating personal writings left behind by C.P.E. Bach in which he criticizes his father (J.S.) for being old-fashioned and resisting current trends in composition (the ones that would eventually be called the "Classical" style). It's a judgment that, in and of itself, not many music lovers would disagree with today. But in terms of historical legacies, well, C.P.E Bach hasn't fared as well as his father.
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shepaints
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 08:44 am
Art today is more and more global, with a wider arena of practitioners and audiences, fewer geographical boundaries and less commonality.

Modern artists navigate waters less bound by tradition, location, language and materials.

Does this more inclusive, diverse marketplace demand more liberal rather than conservative attitudes?
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 09:15 pm
SP, I would guess that to the extent that conservatism is more narrow or provincial and nationalistic, YES.
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