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Why are better educated people less religious?

 
 
Kara
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2010 04:25 pm
@George,
I guess that is what I've always done and am doing, George. There are areas of disagreement and disunion in most married relationships -- people are so different that it could hardly be otherwise -- and the way you handle them depends on how much you value the marriage bond and the contract you made.
au1929
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2010 05:11 pm
@Thomas,
Thanks, Came to visit and and say hello to all the good people at A2k
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2010 09:18 pm
@edgarblythe,
Do you call sitting under a tree with your eyes closed a religion? Smile
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Pemerson
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2010 10:04 pm
@Kara,
My husband and I have been married for 49 years. He is a conservative and I am conservative about some things but lean more toward liberal. We may argue about that now and then, but, what has that to do with the time of day?

His parents didn't go to church at all, but always said they were High Episcopalian. I spent a ton of time in church growing up but was not brainwashed to "believe" any particular way. I read, and taught our kids to read and learn.

I think we are two individuals and that the marriage is separate. I don't think a marriage, however, can continue without some kind of project whether that's raising children, or whatever. The kids are gone but we enjoy working around our home, our friends, going places, the pets. We attend a Unity church now and them - but, Unity (the unchurch) is more into teaching people how to reach their potential, heal themselves, and live healthy lives.

He is my partner. We like to cook for each other, set a beautiful table. Little things do count. There sure is a lot to do around this place. We argue about that more than, say, religion.

Kara, you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders, and would make a nice neighbor.
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zambino10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:59 am
@Phoenix32890,
Really. you think educated people are taught to think independently. you wouldn't happen to be one that thinks, there is such a thing as a same sex gender would you?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:05 am
@zambino10,
zambino10 wrote:

Really. you think educated people are taught to think independently. you wouldn't happen to be one that thinks, there is such a thing as a same sex gender would you?


I think there is such a thing as same-sex gender Laughing

Damn my advanced degrees and the silly notions they give me!

Cycloptichorn
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,
(Psst, what is same-sex gender? Someone who stays the same sex their whole lives?)
panzade
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:38 am
@au1929,
really missed your posts fella
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:39 am
@George,
That's what endears me to you George.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:40 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

(Psst, what is same-sex gender? Someone who stays the same sex their whole lives?)


I'm pretty sure he meant to write 'same-sex marriage'

Cycloptichorn
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:42 am
@Cycloptichorn,
That would make more sense, wouldn't it.
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zambino10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 11:23 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Sex is self gratification, now you can have someone els sexually gratify you or share in gratifying each other. Basically Sex is like an itch that needs to be scratch, but like poison Ivy you might want to restrain from scratching..

you can say sex has something to do with love, But you wouldn't have sex with your child,or dog or someone of the same sex would you? or maybe you would? what do i know.
(Dad,mom.sister. brother.etc.)
The only thing sex has to do with love or marriage, is the promise not to have sex with another.


aidan
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 11:32 am
@zambino10,
Quote:
The only thing sex has to do with love or marriage, is the promise not to have sex with another.

Well there's a philosophy of marriage that'll put your spouse between a rock and a hard place (or not - if your spouse is a girl).



Laughing Laughing
That's great - another to add to my collection -
1)I am a vegetarian and a chain smoker (Ramafuchs)
2)I disdain whoring (spendius)
3)She is not a troublemaker - she is gay (unattributed)
4)The only thing sex has to do with love or marriage is the promise not to have sex with another (zambino 10)
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 11:38 am
@zambino10,
zambino10 wrote:

Sex is self gratification, now you can have someone els sexually gratify you or share in gratifying each other. Basically Sex is like an itch that needs to be scratch, but like poison Ivy you might want to restrain from scratching..

you can say sex has something to do with love, But you wouldn't have sex with your child,or dog or someone of the same sex would you? or maybe you would? what do i know.
(Dad,mom.sister. brother.etc.)
The only thing sex has to do with love or marriage, is the promise not to have sex with another.


I do not agree with your assertions here, and I wonder what happened to you in life to make you this way.

Cycloptichorn
zambino10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 12:20 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Can you at lest agree with your academic dictionary?

I guess we will have to change the definition of woman and man.

Webster Dictionary (Marriage is between a man and woman)

Incest (incestuous)=sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that marriage is illegal.
Girl,
a female child, a young unmarried woman of any age.
Woman
/n.pl women. woman, wife+man= human being. :an adult female person.
Boy
a male child
Man
an adult male, Husband.

Same sex is so closely related. that it falls into the category of incest, that Marriage is illegal?

We are men ,distinctly related by manhood, Brothers of mankind.

The only thing sex has to do with marriage is the promise not to have sex with an other/Loyalty/commitment /integrity
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 12:25 pm
@zambino10,
I don't have any meaningful response to what appears to be a string of unrelated facts with no real argument to back it up.

In particular, however -

Quote:

Same sex is so closely related. that it falls into the category of incest, that Marriage is illegal?


I believe that your logic fails completely on this assertion - if there ever was any to begin with.

To return to the topic, suffice it to say that people who are better educated are less religious, for no other reason then they can see when an argument is self-contradictory, illogical, and built on unprovable assertions - unlike yourself.

Cycloptichorn
zambino10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 12:39 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Oh. may be your right, I thought it was implying that educated people are smarter than religious People? I guess I think to much?,,,,,
JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 12:48 pm
@zambino10,
So much of this question depends on how one defines religious and education.
fresco
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 02:24 am
@JLNobody,
Dennett's definition of religion from"Breaking the Spell" 2006
Quote:
A social system whose participants avow belief in a supernatural agent or agents whose approval is to be sought.


Personally, I think "supernatural" begs a few questions, and excludes the "worship" of famous/infamous historical figures; an activity having all the trappings of "religion". However, what Dennett does here is set up a target for reactionary atheism which has "intellectual indolence" in its sights, (hence the correlation under discussion here).
JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2010 11:11 am
@fresco,
I agree that Dennett's definition is too narrow. Not only does it ignore the metaphorical equivalents of religious prophets such as Marx, it overlooks the many other approaches to non-supernatural--more psychospiritual-- practices such as those of christian, hindu and buddhist mystics.
I like the application of "intellectual indolence" to some of the current "reactionary" atheists who display not much more depth than that of christian fundamentalists.
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