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Why are better educated people less religious?

 
 
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:21 am
Set, I'm surprised one of your learning was unable to understand the erudite message on page 1. I'd explain it to you, but I'm religious, so it might not make much sense. :wink:

Slurp!

We would have a most enjoyable repartee, I would think.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:24 am
I don't consider your contributions suspect, Neo, because of your religious fervor. Rather, i am responding to your own admissions that you are a coffee-fueled goofball . . .
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:26 am
Well, you have a funny looking avatar
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:27 am
Cool hat, though, eh?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:28 am
Trying to relate level of education to religion is meaningless. What impacts religion is the country, culture, family and peer groups, not education.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:35 am
Setanta wrote:
Cool hat, though, eh?
Well, yeah. I wish I had one.
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trying to relate level of education to religion is meaningless. What impacts religion is the country, culture, family and peer groups, not education.
Luk at me, fer 'zample. I hav a hi levl uf edgecayshun:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1310694&highlight=rite#1310694

And some would say I'm religious to a fault.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:13 pm
neo, Adhominems to make your point does nothing to challenge the point I made.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:22 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
neo, Adhominems to make your point does nothing to challenge the point I made.
Ad hominems?

I had no point other than to bring a little sunshine into your day, CI. :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:40 pm
neo, Well, you fooled me and many others. Looks like you were trying to make fun of my opinion.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:44 pm
It didn't appear that way to me. And, of course, if he were making fun of your opinion, that would not be an argumentum ad hominem, nor would it be any sort of personal attack.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:45 pm
What I was going to say was "making fun of my opinion by attacking me."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 12:55 pm
I don't see why you insist that he attacked you. All i saw was that Neo was making fun of the concept of the thread which links education to religious fervor by an inverse relationship.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 03:17 pm
Setanta wrote:
I don't see why you insist that he attacked you. All i saw was that Neo was making fun of the concept of the thread which links education to religious fervor by an inverse relationship.
Yeah. Sorry, CI.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 01:20 pm
Re: Why are better educated people less religious?
stlstrike3 wrote:
According to an article in Scientific American, a popular-science magazine, 90% of the general population surveyed professed a distinct belief in a personal god and afterlife, while only 40% of the scientists with a Bachelor of Science degree surveyed did so, and only 10% of those considered "eminent."

Why is this?

What does it mean?

Is this why religion attacks science (evolution vs. creationism)?

Is this a phenomenon that we will see progress?


http://gazette.gmu.edu/articles/9185/
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 02:02 pm
stlstrike3 wrote:
What the hell is "valuable" about faith? When it comes to any other area of our life, faith (i.e. believing without evidence) makes you a laughingstock.

It's a strong commitment mechanism. Strong commitment mechanisms can have value, though they don't always do, and their have side effects can be severe.

stlstrike3 wrote:
What if your doctor told you, "It has been privately revealed to me that crushed daisies will cure your cancer." Or better yet, "It is my strong conviction that replacing your insulin with battery acid will improve your blood sugars."

On the other hand, what if you're a soldier in the middle of a war, and your commander told you the following? "I'm thinking about the question whether I should attack the enemy this afternoon. A preliminary study of the literature was inconclusive: On the one hand, Churchill (1951) and Clausewitz (1810) argue in favor of it. But also see Alexander (325 B.C) and Zun Tsu (1000 B.C), both of whom argue against it. Summing up, this fascinating problem clearly deserves further research." Is that any better?
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 03:48 pm
Thomas,

If religious belief constituted a decision mechanism in life threatenening situations you would have a valid point. In fact such beliefs are about death threatening situations and constitute an opiate. Even worse the effects of the narcotic are such that its addicts can elevate "death" over "life" to the detriment of us all.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 10:33 pm
It may be that the sociological " structural functionalists" are right that in earlier times human survival was promoted by religious ideologies that created social solidarity, a solidarity that helped a population close ranks against external threats. Today, however, it seems that in many societies the social fabric is undermined by inter-denominational strife.
The function of religion becomes more personal (i.e., fear of death, as Fresco notes) rather than social.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 10:36 pm
Not only death, but suffering in hell for eternity. Thou shalt have no other gods before me is god's way of giving man free will.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 09:28 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Not only death, but suffering in hell for eternity. Thou shalt have no other gods before me is god's way of giving man free will.
Not all who read the bible believe the suffering in hell BS.

Mainly because it doesn't come from the bible.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:43 am
neo, It's funny you claim it doesn't come from the bible, but the over-whelming evidence says otherwise. Take the following link as an example.

http://www.fellowshipinhislove.com/paininhell.html
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