Ceili
 
Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 10:45 pm
I'm told, the best mozzarella is made from buffalos milk. Now I've seen north american plains and wood buffalo and I am aware of water buffalo but...
I don't believe I've ever heard of a buffalo from southern europe. So where exactly do these milkable buffalos come from. Cause the monsters I've seen, well... anyhoo, got any ideas?
Thanks,
Ceili
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 10:53 pm
Great question!
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 10:55 pm
I'm guessing water buffalo
http://www.todarobros.com/buffalo_cheese.asp

Oh yeah....
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_17072,00.html
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 10:59 pm
Make you a deal, Ceili. I'll find 'em if you'll milk 'em.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 11:02 pm
Water buffalo, from the country area around Rome and Naples...

and the cheese is good....
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2003 11:22 pm
I was drivin' round the countryside last year and happened upon a herd. I drove up to the farmers door and asked if I could take picture of them
http://www.sherwoodparkchamber.com/Images/buffalo.JPG
The biggest one weighed close the three thousand pounds. It kept charging the fence till I got down on my knees. I wouldn't get any closer if you paid me.

Ceili
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 01:19 am
I think that one is a bison, not a water buffalo
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 04:40 am
Yep, that's a bison - a buffalo is a different beast altogether.

India is one of the biggest consumers of the product.

Buffalo Milk
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 04:54 pm
It's a wood buffalo.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 05:04 pm
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One of the most difficult parts of discussing the Water Buffalo with citizens of North America ......or any non-Asian fan of the American cowboy or jungle adventure movie .....is to identify the correct animal. There are many closly related groups within the Order Artiodactyla or even toed animals.
The American Bison ...or American Western Buffalo is not a true buffalo but its own Genus . They are closer to cattle (Bos) than to the water buffalo and will interbreed with cattle.
water buffalo homepage


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The buffalo, Bison bison, is the largest mammal on the North American continent. This magnificent creature, which is a member of the Bovidae, or cow family, was given its name by the early French explorers who called them "Ies boeufs," meaning oxen. Throughout the years, the name went through several changes from "buffle" to "buffelo" and finally to its present "buffalo." Bison is the correct scientific and common name, but buffalo has been used and accepted for many years.


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The bison has often been described as the most ferocious animal in North America. This description is no doubt a result of its great size. Full-grown bulls weigh up to 2,000 pounds and stand six feet or more at the shoulder. Their massive heads, which are matted with a thick covering of wiry hair, hold a set of horns that are never shed. The shoulders carry a huge hump that gives the bison its characteristic top-heavy look, the hips being much smaller in relation to the rest of the body. A bison cow is similar in appearance to the bull, but is smaller in size, weighing up to 1100 pounds and reaching a height of four to five-and-a-half feet at the shoulder.



the bison bison page from the theodore roosevelt national park website
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 05:10 pm
a couple of neat links on bufalo mozzarella....
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/5353/pizza/history.html
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=mozzarella
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 05:48 pm
OssoB - i like that everything link - lots of good stuff in there. Thanks.

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Up to here this is fairly standard cheese making practice - here comes the interesting part.

The small cubes of curd are placed in very hot water, almost boiling in fact, at 90 °C (194 °F). The now softened and melting curds are lifted out of the hot water and swung around by hand, which stretches the cheese so as to create strands in its structure. The cheese is then formed into its distinctive shape of a large sphere topped with a smaller one, then immersed in brine to cool and set. The cheese is now finished - perfection has been achieved. This heating and stretching of the curds is the reason behind mozzarella's trademark stringy texture when melted.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2003 08:11 pm
Yes, I found it interesting. I have had scamorza too, the similar local cheese from sheep..trying to remember where I had it....I think by the Tyhrennian Sea, at Ostia Lido, near the old ruins of Ostia Antica. That would fit, that is about the same region...
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Wy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 02:07 pm
I have watched that process of mozzarella-shaping on Food Network. It seems like a cross between bread dough and silly putty when it's finally stretched and shaped properly...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2003 02:24 pm
The italian bufalo is original of Eastern India. About its appearance in Italy the theories are different; even that the breed is aboriginal and descending from the buffalos of the quarternary period.
Mozzarella exsists since centuries. For sure it was mentioned in the XV century with the name MOZZA (in italian means cut-off), but it is very likely that the buffalos were imported into Italy by the germans Longobardi in the VI century.(500 A.D.)
Since the year 1400 however we find it mentioned in numerous texts and we know it was commonly eaten raw or together with other ingredients as a condiment for many preparations.
It is also mentioned in the Dictionaire de Cuisine by Alexandre Dumas father with the name of eggs of bufalo, which are nowdays called ovoline.

Mozzarella di bufala Campana is produced in seven provinces of Central-South Italy: Caserta and Salerno provinces, and part of Benevento, Naples, Frosinone, Latina and Rome. The breeding of buffalos takes place in very modern zootechnic farms with stables equipped for milking and adjoining wide open pastures.

from: MOZZARELLA DI BUFALA CAMPANA DOP

Nowadays, mozzarella (of buffalo milk) is produced in other regions and countries as well. (Not speak of so-called mozzarella from cow-milk!!!)

But it's never "original" mozarella (which you really can taste :wink: ).
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2003 10:37 am
Thanks to all for all the facinating info on the Italian buffalo.
I had no idea herds of them wandered the Italian landscape.
Thanks,
Ceili
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