Casino Royale Sucks, Worst Bond Movie Ever

You think Casino Royale was the worst film ever!? You have obviously never had to sit through "Ishtar" with Dustin Hoffman.

The new one just seems ordinary to me..

Well, the Sean Connery Bond movies were long before my time.

I grew up with a Bond brand that stood for action set-ups that were painstakingly elaborate up to and beyond the point of getting hilariously over the top - always contrasted to the hero's impeccably understated reactions. Bond was an inside joke that we could all share - the baffling array of gadgets, the cheesy oneliners that noone else in the industry but Bond and his Bond girl could deliver, the escalation of settings (ice palace anyone?), and the ever current plays on the enemy of the day's news.

And as such, I've always enjoyed it. Bond was an evening of guaranteed entertainment to indulge in freely in between serious films, as a kind of collective guilty pleasure. Had your share of Lars von Trier? Bond will give you lots of clever action scenes that were hilarious as well as gripping. No gore - no dreary shoot-outs, none of the ever more explicit torture that appears to fill Hollywood action films. You know what you get.

In contrast, the new Bond feels like a much more ordinary movie. More of an action pic like any other - the one-on-one fights, the obligatory brutal torture scene. No gadgets no inside "Bond brand" jokes, just - another action movie.

I agree with Phoenix and Lightwizard, I could hardly disagree more with the original post if I tried. It's almost like I watched a different film based on some of the comments!

I'm no expert on Bond or Ian Fleming's original works but wasn't the whole idea of this film to take us back to Bond's origins, when he was a bit more raw? With regards to the relationship in the film, I felt it was great, why was Connery's bond so detached from the women around him? I assumed it was because of the kind of experiences he had earlier in his career if you like, what happens between Bond the main girl clearly rocks him and hardens him, it was refreshing. See M's comments about the lessons he'll need to learn etc.

With regards to the gadgets though, while Jeremiah seems outraged with the defibrillator being the most advanced piece of kit in the film, I thought that moment was excellent and I'd personally make a much bigger deal about the car in the previous film which could turn invisible. Come on!

I really enjoyed it anyway.

About the only thing one would pay any attention to would be 50's vintage cars considering the locales would look virtually the same.

To put it in a nutshell, this Bond was a far more modern 007, geared to today's sensibilities.