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Maliagar is a footnote.

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Anyone using Leviticus as proof that homosexuality is unnatural in the animal world is bound by that foolish dogma and cannot be trusted.

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Where is a Bonobo when you need him?

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truth
Here's something for people to jump on: Nothing under the sun is unnatural (or supernatural).

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truth
Oh, and Maliagar, you know darn well what I meant. Don't taunt; it's not adult--literally speaking. I WOULD like very much to know your age. That might explain alot.

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He's 36!

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Re: truth

JLNobody wrote:

Here's something for people to jump on: Nothing under the sun is unnatural (or supernatural).

[What happened with your claim that I had committed the sin of literalism? Gave up due to a confused terminology and/or lack of evidence?]

Well... if it is supernatural, then it is above the sun. :wink:

Now, under the sun... you can have natural, unnatural, and anti-natural (contra natura).

Unnatural... Cloning sheep, for example.

:wink:

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Maliagar,

How do you reconcile the fact that you have avoided answering pointed questions about your naturalistic fallacies with your claim that your debate is 'precise'?

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Re: truth
Another one weaseling out to avoid acknowledging their terminological inexactitudes / lack of evidence... :wink:

JLNobody wrote:

Oh, and Maliagar, you know darn well what I meant. Don't taunt; it's not adult--literally speaking. I WOULD like very much to know your age. That might explain alot.

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Maliagar,

How do you reconcile your actions (weaseling out) with your taunting of others who you accuse of doing the same?

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truth
EVERYTHING that happens, happens because it is, in part--as a necessary cause--natural. If it were not natural it would be impossible to clone sheep. Nature in the form of people, intentions, laboratories, DNA, etc. created the clone. It only appears unnatural according to the worldview of some individuals and churches.

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Re: truth
:wink:

Saw it coming...

You're not proving or disproving anything.

You're just providing your prefered definition of 'natural', which is so encompassing that, as a matter of principle, nothing can be otherwise. When a concept is that broad, it's operational usefulness suffers to the point of irrelevance. It's like using "universe" or "world" instead of "nature".

Now, to see if your definition fits reality, we would need to examine it. And it is pretty strange to claim that cloning is natural, when it requires the intervention of a foreign agent's intentionalities.

:wink:

[Your evidence for my literalism?]

JLNobody wrote:

EVERYTHING that happens, happens because it is, in part--as a necessary cause--natural. If it were not natural it would be impossible to clone sheep. Nature in the form of people, intentions, laboratories, DNA, etc. created the clone. It only appears unnatural according to the worldview of some individuals and churches.

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maliagar, How can you claim that cloning sheep is "unnatural?" That man can manipulate DNA is unnatural? That man can manipulate drugs to inhance our good health is unnatural? Man can also build cars; is that also unnatural? c.i.

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Man, you're soooo in another frequency... :wink:

cicerone imposter wrote:

maliagar, How can you claim that cloning sheep is "unnatural?" That man can manipulate DNA is unnatural? That man can manipulate drugs to inhance our good health is unnatural? Man can also build cars; is that also unnatural? c.i.

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I'm always on another frequency - from you! c.i.

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maliagar, 'terminological inexactitudes' would technically only refer to improper use of words, not lack of evidence.

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