Is there proof God exists?

The point is if your an engineer and your going to design something your going to use logic, reason that is backed up by math and past structural designs that work.

Why would you not use the same for religion? Why believe in something that is so totally false that no amount of reasoning, logic or science can support it?

That's not a strawman but a simple question?

You ducking and dodging again. You can't answer the question so your trying to discredit the question.

baddog1 wrote:

xingu wrote:

What I would like to know is what his fellow engineers would say to the statement that the sun, moon and stars were created after the earth, plants and trees (Genesis 1:1-19)?

What would his engineer friends say if you told them the sun stood still in the sky for 24 hours? (Joshua 10:13)

It would be unfair for me to speak for my friends on these passages because to the best of my knowledge, we have not spoken of them.

However, given the Christian engineers that I know - I imagine they would go directly to faith.

Faith over reason?

Is that the way to design a bridge?

Science cannot prove historical events.

Let's go back a bit. We were talking about Genesis, remember?.................


...........I go back to the question Real can't answer; were is the evidence to support the Genesis story I'm speaking of?

There is a massive amount of science out there to show the Biblical accout if totally false.

xingu wrote:

Let's go back a bit. We were talking about Genesis, remember?.................


...........I go back to the question Real can't answer; were is the evidence to support the Genesis story I'm speaking of?

I see you're modifying your question.

Are you no longer specifying 'scientific proof' ?

Have you realized the foolishness of your previous position?

xingu wrote:

There is a massive amount of science out there to show the Biblical accout if totally false.

Such as?

Let's go back a bit. We were talking about Genesis, remember?

Which brings me to my question; why would this type of believer use logic and reason in their everyday life but abandond it when it comes to religion?

Are believers afraid their God will punish them if they don't believe it?

Do they think they will get a better reward if they do believe it?

real life wrote:

xingu wrote:

Let's go back a bit. We were talking about Genesis, remember?.................


...........I go back to the question Real can't answer; were is the evidence to support the Genesis story I'm speaking of?

I see you're modifying your question.

Are you no longer specifying 'scientific proof' ?

Have you realized the foolishness of your previous position?

OH, excuse me!

Give me evidence, scienticif proof, anything reasonable.

OK?

Your pretty desperate if you have to resort to this type of tactic.

real life wrote:

xingu wrote:

There is a massive amount of science out there to show the Biblical accout if totally false.

Such as?

Like I said, your showing your ignorance.

Do your own homework.

xingu wrote:

Let's go back a bit. We were talking about Genesis, remember?

I already answered the related question.

No you didn't. I asked for evidence and all you do is dodge and weave. You obviously can't support your Biblical beliefs.

xingu wrote:

Which brings me to my question; why would this type of believer use logic and reason in their everyday life but abandond it when it comes to religion?

You're presenting a question with an absurd assumption!

I'm asking a simpe question your can't answer; which is why I got the above response.

xingu wrote:

Are believers afraid their God will punish them if they don't believe it?

If God punishes me - I'm sure I deserved it.

xingu wrote:

Do they think they will get a better reward if they do believe it?

What reward?

More ignorance

Invoking science at every turn is foolish and pretentious. You want to sound intelligent. 'Give me the science'.

I am also curious how one thinks that god and science are one in the same the same.

Real Life wrote:

Invoking science at every turn is foolish and pretentious. You want to sound intelligent. 'Give me the science'.

I'd expect that from someone who holds religious nonsence over science.

Real Life wrote:

Invoking science at every turn is foolish and pretentious. You want to sound intelligent. 'Give me the science'.

I'd expect that from someone who holds religious nonsence over science.