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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 01:42 pm
@izzythepush,

I think UKIP is NF-lite for many of its adherents. The hate that dare not speak its name.
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 01:42 pm
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McTag
 
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McTag
 
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 01:55 pm
Seen the Taliban video lads?

That's a shot of real warriors. It makes a change from all the fakers. All sat in an armchair trying to make small change out of a poor guy going nutty in Afghanistan. A bloody ballet dancer from all accounts.

If I had been our guy I would have frisked Bergie for a suicide belt while he was still with the Taliban rather than taking him over to the BH to do it. But maybe the sheer existensial moment got the better of him.

Was it a condition that the Taliban could film it? Or was it a nasty surprise of the sort only cunning goat herders would think of?

It sure was the scene of the year. And of many another.



spendius
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 02:01 pm
@spendius,
Now I come to think of it I can see why the US Army might recruit ballet dancers for active service. Because ballet dancers are used to getting into tight corners.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 02:02 pm
@spendius,
Good piece of video.

From what Bergdahl has written, he's one of the sanest westerners in Afghanistan. Or he was.
Maybe the only ballet dancer too.
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 02:23 pm
@McTag,
The BNP's loss of its 2 only seats, and UKIP's gains are all part of the same thing. A lot of people who voted BNP last time voted UKIP, (I suspect Fabulini might be one of them.)

For all his insane rants and gaffes, I'm beginning to think Godfrey Bloom was one of the more palatable members of Farage's coterie. At least Bloom wasn't hiding anything. We know absolutely nothing about the new bunch.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2014 03:14 pm
@McTag,
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Good piece of video.


Good!!!???? It was great Mac. Your tastes have been blunted.

Have you ever read The Light Garden of the Angel King: Travels in Afghanistan by Peter Levi? (A Jesuit no less).
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2014 01:13 am
@spendius,
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Good!!!???? It was great Mac. Your tastes have been blunted.


It was great on many levels. And surprisingly professionally shot. A great propaganda coup, down to the "Respect" signing of the American crewmen.

What a shitstorm Mr Obama has made for himself over this. Maybe his aides had not read Bergdahl's earlier writings.

No I haven't read that book. I take it you are recommending it?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2014 04:24 am
@McTag,
I think too many people have an exaggerated emotional commitment to "manliness" which the concept is unable to bear.

Hence all the posturing we see from people whose manliness has never been tested.

Somebody should tell Bill O'Reilly that it is easy not to freak out sat in a ******* studio raking it in and advertising shirts.

McTag
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2014 04:41 am
@spendius,

No shortage, is there, of armchair warriors and generals.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2014 04:50 am
A great English hero!
Edward I, also known as Edward Longshanks, "The Hammer of the Scots", one of the most ruthless kings ever to sit on the throne of England..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Edward_I_zps846e1e2a.jpg~original
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2014 05:13 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
one of the most ruthless kings ever to sit on the throne of England..
Not really astonishing with all his French ancestry. But he wasn't called Édouard sanz Terre like his grandfather John Lackland.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 07:07 am
Interesting article in today's Grauniad about Newark and UKIP.



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Under our current electoral system, having a core vote which is spread disparately across the country is pointless from the perspective of winning seats. If you're a political geek, check out Electoral Calculus, a website which allows you to spend the afternoon typing in seat predictions at the next election. If Ukip wins 20% next year, the website points out, they are still unlikely to win a single seat.

Unlike even the besieged Lib Dems, they are unable to concentrate support in any given constituency.

The national polling explains why. Ukip are supposed to be a symptom of popular anger at the political elite, but – according to an ICM poll in March – they are the least liked and most disliked party. According to YouGov, while 28% of people had a positive view of Ukip back in 2009, it's now just 22%; and while 37% viewed them negatively five years ago, that has now jumped to 53%. The Ukip vote is dwarfed by the "can't stand Ukip" vote, and that is a formidable obstacle to them winning a seat.

This is what makes them different from the Lib Dems, their predecessors as the "None of the Above" party. Difficult though it now is to imagine – with Nick Clegg having gone from approaching the popularity of Winston Churchill to that of the ebola virus – pre-coalition Lib Dems did not have much of a stigma among the wider population.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/06/analysis-newark-ukip-is-feeling-the-effect-of-protest-votes
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 07:12 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

A great English hero!


Utter bollocks, none of the kings were English after Harold Godwinson. The first king to use English instead of French was Henry V, a bit after Edward I. That's why Henry V is known as the English king, to set him apart from his predecessors.

If Edward I had been worth bothering about Shakespeare would have written a play about him. He didn't, but he wrote three about Henry V.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 07:37 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Interesting article in today's Grauniad about Newark and UKIP.


That's not interesting izzy. What's interesting is the big act all the power mad fuckers are putting on. Replete with every theatrical trick GBS often ranted about.

And the beginners, finding themselves blocked by being too impatient to start from a Ward Committee, have nowhere else to go than being a bit off base.

I don't vote but if I did I would vote UKIP because Farage smokes and drinks pints and I wouldn't trust anybody to run a roundabout at a Country Fayre who didn't smoke.

If he ever gets "up there", a Warholian phrase, the Civil Servants will explain everything to him and tell him what to say when he might be overheard.

"It might as well have been him as anybody" Molly Bloom says.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 07:39 am
@spendius,
It's just as well you don't vote.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 10:53 am
@izzythepush,
I know that. It's why I don't vote. I'm too public spirited.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jun, 2014 10:55 am
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Romeo said: Edward I, 'The Hammer of the Scots', a great English hero!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Edward_I_zps846e1e2a.jpg~original
Izzy replied: Utter bollocks, none of the kings were English after Harold Godwinson. The first king to use English instead of French was Henry V, a bit after Edward I. That's why Henry V is known as the English king, to set him apart from his predecessors.
If Edward I had been worth bothering about Shakespeare would have written a play about him. He didn't, but he wrote three about Henry V.

Edward I was born in London, and like most kings and nobles of the era was multilingual, speaking Norman-French, Middle and Old English, and Latin..Smile
In Braveheart, McGoohan spoke English all the time, there ya go..Smile

PS- Apart from hammering the jocks, Edward I also gave the Welsh a good kicking, then went on a crusade to dish out the same treatment to muslims, what a man!
As for Shakespeare, he had to bow to his political paymasters who commissioned plays, and as Henry V was their flavour of the month, he got wrote about a lot.

 

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