THE BRITISH THREAD II

@Walter Hinteler,

Romeo knows very little, that's why he so opinionated.

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@Walter Hinteler,

But one vote doesn't matter Walt. What matters is Romeo's second question.

They won't be offering English citizenship for residents in England because there might be a mass migration before the vote. Not that the vote will clinch the deal. Legislation will have to be brought forward and debated on about what an independent Scotland is allowed to do. Could it reduce taxes on alcohol by, say, 50%?

What is an independent Ukraine allowed to do?

I assume Mac will be offered a choice. To become English once he has passed the pronunciation tests or be a legal foreign immigrant. I very much doubt he risks being uprooted and his arse kicked over Hadrian's wall.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

if Scotland does become independent will you be going back there or stay in England as a foreign immigrant?

I see England and the rest of these isles as a kind of greater Scotland. The Scots are by nature outward-looking, inclusive, generous and noble of spirit.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

I very much doubt he risks being uprooted and his arse kicked over Hadrian's wall.

And into Northumberland.

I used to live north of Hadrian's Wall, and the people there were very much English.

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@izzythepush,

I must admit that I don't know exactly where Hadrian's Wall runs. It isn't the sort of information my memory retains. It looked better than "the border" I thought.

The people of Northumberland will no doubt kick his arse the rest of the way.

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McTag said: The Scots are by nature outward-looking, inclusive, generous and noble of spirit.

Yes, an englishman bought a remote cottage in the Scottish highlands, and the first evening there's a knock at the door.
He opens it and there's a big hairy Jock standing there in kilt, tam-o-shanter, sporran, bagpipes, caber, the lot.
"Och aye the noo laddie" he says, "I live in the cottage doon the glen aways and I'd like tae invite ye to a party there tonight, there'll be lots of singing, dancing, drinking and wild wild sex!"
"Thanks awfully old man" replies the englishman, "and how many will be there?"
"Och laddie" answers the Scotsman, "just the two of us"

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I used to live north of Hadrian's Wall, and the people there were very much English.

Gretna Green was a famous destination for young Germans in the good old days.

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@Walter Hinteler,

The Las Vegas of the border country.

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In the news today:

Peaches Geldof may have been taking heroin? Gosh, whooda thunk it.

An inquiry into the catastrophic failures at The Cooperative Bank has officially found that "executives" were to blame. Yes, really.

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@McTag,

Not surprised at all re PG. She represented the very worst of modern celebrity, famous because of her parents, even Big Brother contestants have to pass an audition.

My daughter was about the same age as PG when her mum died, she didn't have the luxury of moping about saying she never got over her mum's death, she knuckled down and got on with it.

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Another staggering fact come to light today: after last month's news that crime was dropping nationally, we were becoming a safer etc. society, what?
Yes, today we learn the police have been under-reporting crimes possibly around 20% fewer than actual.
Is anyone really surprised, seeing that police bonuses are available for good figures, clear-up rates and so on? Cause and effect, I would have thought.

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@McTag,

Targets can always be manipulated. There's a Soviet era cartoon showing a crane lifting a huge rivet with the caption that this rivet meets the target of x tons of rivets.

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@izzythepush,

My point precisely. Targets, especially those linked to bonuses, WILL be manipulated.
The bloody news meeja should be aware of this.

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@McTag,

Speaking of money: Premier League finances: the full club-by-club breakdown and verdict. The "German club" (aka Saints - both Liebherr and Kreutzer are Germans) is doing not too bad.

All our football clubs are "owned" by the club members since they are (nearly all) registered voluntary associations.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Another staggering fact come to light today: after last month's news that crime was dropping nationally, we were becoming a safer etc. society, what?
Yes, today we learn the police have been under-reporting crimes possibly around 20% fewer than actual.
Is anyone really surprised, seeing that police bonuses are available for good figures, clear-up rates and so on? Cause and effect, I would have thought.

I admit I haven't gone into this in detail, but I got the impression that the headline decline was in violent crime, whereas the alleged under-reporting was all offences and not in all police areas (only 13 of 43 have been audited). Given that Lord Stevens, the former Metropolitan Police Commissioner, told MPs earlier this year that “ever since I have been in the police service, there has been a fiddling of figures” (i.e. it has always happened) and that it was still going on, I would have thought that the available data could still support a fall in violent crime.

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@contrex,

Anyone who suggests I am too cynical gets a punch on the nose.

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Walter Hinteler said re the Scottish Independence vote:-only British citizens resident in Scotland can vote.

But if Scotland becomes independent, what'll happen to the Scots who live in England?
We English will see them in a new light and regard them as second-class citizens and scrounging immigrants who have abandoned their own countries to come here and take our jobs and housing, just like all the other immigrants from other countries.
I mean, if the vote for independence shows the Scots don't want us, we certainly won't want them.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Your question wasn't about that.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Since the Scots who live in England (and elsewhere in the world) don't have a vote in this matter, they will feel quite justified in treating such opinion as this with a fair degree of benign contempt.
I also wonder about who this "we" is you claim to speak for.

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