THE BRITISH THREAD II

smorgsie wrote-

Quote:

What's all that about?

Could you Chat/Bella/Best/Hello it up for me?

How could I do that when I have never read one word in those publications? They are no doubt based on the idea that men are all rapists.

My position is that woman is huntress with man as her prey.

But I hear my bath being prepared so I must away for now.

0 Replies

So who prepares Spandy's bath? Nurse, or the warden?

0 Replies

It's United Utilities you silly moo.

I could hear the cistern bubbling when I wrote those words and the pipes rumbling.

Have you ever thought of a hand-maiden without the National Grid?

0 Replies

Don't talk to me about United Utilities!

They're right bastards, they are.

Happy Mother's Day.

I shall be dining with my Daughter - and her Daughter.

x

0 Replies

smorgs wrote:

Don't talk to me about United Utilities!

They're right bastards, they are.

Exluding some, persons, of course, you certainly mean!!!

0 Replies

No, she's right, they are bastards.

What news of the Warrior Prince?
Does anyone else feel disquiet, having concluded that our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted, about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

Makes you want to spit.

0 Replies

McTag wrote:

Does anyone else feel disquiet, having concluded that our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted, about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

No, McT ... only you.

0 Replies

Ticomaya wrote:

McTag wrote:
Does anyone else feel disquiet, having concluded that our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted, about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

No, McT ... only you.

Wrong as usual, Tico.

Catherine Bennett expressed it well in The Observer today:

"After all, a fortnight ago, if someone had told you that Harry, recently a world-class piss artist in a Nazi costume, unable to string more than three words together, was about to be reinvented as 'the soldier prince', a national hero endowed with the moral authority to 'show us the way', it might have sounded no less baloney than .......to reduce the nation to a condition of drooling complicity.

Something, anyway, must explain how on Thursday Harry hysteria spread within hours, from places where you expect to find headlines such as 'My War' (the Mirror) and 'One of Our Boys' (the Sun), to more royal-averse offices where layers of cynicism offered no resistance to the epidemic of simpering and fawning, twinkling and swooning.

But the grovelling has been nowhere as intense, nor as sustained as at the BBC, where royal correspondents and their editors have been determined to place their work on a scrupulously loyal, wartime footing, replacing the news for two consecutive days with illustrated accounts of the prince's adventures, delivered in a whispery, state funeral sing-song, with additional commentary from brigadiers and generals, describing the 'soldier prince' as exemplary, dedicated, distinguished, etc, etc."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/mar/02/military.monarchy

0 Replies

McTag wrote:

No, she's right, they are bastards.

What news of the Warrior Prince?
Does anyone else feel disquiet, having concluded that our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted, about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

Makes you want to spit.

Do you believe the Anglo French Campaign in 1914 & subsequent to demolish and colonize the Ottoman Empire was "immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted"? Who was it that drew the borders of an intrinsically unstable state in Iraq - divided among Kurds, Shia, and Sunni ? The theory them was that as a result it would be perpetually dependent on the British for internal stability - it worked for a brief while.

0 Replies

I think the Prince Harry thing is a movie from start to finish. A welcome one too after the week long voyeurism orgy concerning murder and perversion.

I'm surprised that Observer readers are expected these days to allow themselves to be regaled with the crass simplicities of Ms Bennett. Perhaps she was having a tough day.

But media is now a feminist house organ so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

0 Replies

georgeob1 wrote:

McTag wrote:
No, she's right, they are bastards.

What news of the Warrior Prince?
Does anyone else feel disquiet, having concluded that our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted, about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

Makes you want to spit.

Do you believe the Anglo French Campaign in 1914 & subsequent to demolish and colonize the Ottoman Empire was "immoral and illegal as well as ill-advised and badly conducted"? Who was it that drew the borders of an intrinsically unstable state in Iraq - divided among Kurds, Shia, and Sunni ? The theory them was that as a result it would be perpetually dependent on the British for internal stability - it worked for a brief while.

Is it the business of The British Thread to discuss this? We are more comfortable with chocolate snacks and evening baths.

However in the absence of the lotus-eaters for the time being, I would opine that the western powers have done exceedingly badly by the former Mesopotamia for a century or more, more recently installing Saddam Hussein as a hard-man dictator then turning against him when he refused to be a puppet.

Cynics or maybe realists are asking why, in this "war to bring democracy to the Middle East", the USA is building a vast administrative centre called an "embassy" in Baghdad and several military and air bases throughout the country of Iraq, evidence of an intention to garrison forced there permanently.

All of the western interest in this region over this long period has been because of the oil deposits there, and this is more acute now with oil reserves being used up so fast.

The British under the supine leadership of Mr Blair evidently decided that a calculated material gain would outweigh any moral qualms about the invasion.

0 Replies

And that's why it makes me sick that our media ignore the big stink of the overall situation and focus on the warrior prince in such a pathetic way.
Anything for a bit of feel-good about ourselves, no matter how perverted.

0 Replies

I saw a film of a police raid on a house with three rooms full of cannabis plants.

During the fascinating ten minutes of footage viewers were given an intensive course in how to grow marijuana and how to prevent anyone finding out.

It is as if they want to encourage cannabis home industries as that will lead to more police overtime, more court cases, more prison building, more excuses for cheap and easy editorial content on the reverse side of ads, sales of electrical gear and access to police video for the purpose of cost free footage to squeeze between more ads.

And not forgetting opportunities for police officers to appear on TV in a respectable light.

Question. Does the showing of police chases in fast cars cause more police chases in fast cars. I know a couple of officers who have been involved in such things and they absolutely love it.

0 Replies

Mac-

I think the intention is to turn the ME into an adjunct of Westen society and I feel sure that for the ordinary person of those regions it can't happen fast enough.

Would you be in favour of Tatanka Iyotaka (Sitting Bull) still being in charge of the Great Plains? If so where do you see all this food aid for starving people coming from?

0 Replies

spendius wrote:

Mac-

I think the intention is to turn the ME into an adjunct of Westen society and I feel sure that for the ordinary person of those regions it can't happen fast enough.

Would you be in favour of Tatanka Iyotaka (Sitting Bull) still being in charge of the Great Plains? If so where do you see all this food aid for starving people coming from?

This is leading us into ideology and I'm not comfortable with that.

The plains indians did okay for food (population proportionate to available food) as far as I know, until the white settlers killed the buffalo.

Quote:

...to turn the ME into an adjunct of Westen society and I feel sure that for the ordinary person of those regions it can't happen fast enough.

No doubt many would like to have Baywatch on their screens and a Starbucks next door, but others might well wish to reflect whether the consumer society/western model is the path they should follow. There are signs that it is not.

0 Replies

I see no signs of that Mac.

There might be the odd movie about some stockbroker who blows off to a smallholding in Wales to milk a cow and keep chickens but there are plenty of people eager to get into the chair he vacated and stare at a screen all day watching rubber futures. Plenty. Some of them are slavering.

It means nothing. Those movies allow us to escape our fast moving lives for half an hour or even a series of half-hours like with River Cottage. People do things in movies that they wouldn't do tear in tear out with no cameras rendering them into B-list celebs so they can go to garden centres to promote patio barbecue equipment when they are not making more movies. And the sets are dead cheap. River Cottage probable commands treble the price it did when it was bought by an anonymous buyer. It's really cheap when you treble your money. River Cottage is bloody awful although it's quite nice on warm summer evenings when all the chores are done such as repairing the generator and stroking the pig being got ready for the weekend when your ex-pals from the wine bars come down to have a bit of a different day out. Like in Brave New World.
And being amazed to discover where carrots come from.

That SAS guy living off the land was quite funny. As if all those cameramen and sound recordists and what not with their personal assistants in tow would live off the sodding land. It was probably made in Kew Gardens. He probably has a camping equipment franchise.

It's really cynical to think he was living off the land.

All is ideology Mac. Best to get comfortable with it. There's no mileage in being uncomfortable with ideology. Hungry lions maybe.

0 Replies

McTag wrote:

What news of the Warrior Prince?
Does anyone else feel disquiet............ about the way the media are fawning all over the stupid prince?

Makes you want to spit.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/martin_rowson/2008/03/02/rowson512.jpg

0 Replies

spendius wrote:

Mac-

I think the intention is to turn the ME into an adjunct of Westen society and I feel sure that for the ordinary person of those regions it can't happen fast enough.

Would you be in favour of Tatanka Iyotaka (Sitting Bull) still being in charge of the Great Plains? If so where do you see all this food aid for starving people coming from?

This reminded me of a very good newspaper cartoon which I have been regrettably unable to find this morning, showing a little red-faced Mr Bush (backed up by corporate America icons), berating the 4,000-year-old Persian civilisations.

0 Replies

From what I have read of the civilisation of which you speak so casually it has stood in need of a jolly good berating for all its history.

Cartoons mean nothing in respect of subjects of that nature. They are tailored to suit the reader's viewpoints so obviously they are "very good" to those who think they are "very good".

Quote:

And that's why it makes me sick that our media ignore the big stink of the overall situation and focus on the warrior prince in such a pathetic way.
Anything for a bit of feel-good about ourselves, no matter how perverted.

You can't have media making you sick one minute and being "very good" the next. You're using it as a mirror.

You don't seriously think that Mr Bush and Mr Blair could have run this policy without their government machines being behind them do you? They are just two guys who had the guts to take the heat for it.

0 Replies

Piffle. Tosh, and poppycock.

Time for my elevenses.

0 Replies

THE BRITISH THREAD II

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know