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Nathan Phillips Square Design Finalists Unveiled

 
 
noinipo
 
Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 10:07 am
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 11:19 am
3 and 4 look good to me. 1 and 2 seem like they were designed by a group of people who'd never actually tried to use the space.

I go there regularly for lunchtime events in the summer, and the space really could use help (and shade).
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 01:14 pm
Bookmarking - I read the article quickly, back later.
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noinipo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 06:42 am
More pictures of the models.
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http://www.branchplant.com/landscape/agoratheatre.html
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shepaints
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 08:59 am
I've participated in several Toronto Outdoor Art Exhibitions at Nathan
Phillips Square with over 500 artists. I've been lucky enough to get a booth right underneath the concrete collonade close to the rotunda.

As this event runs for 3 days, it is very nice to be sheltered by cool concrete in the steaming hot summer temps. Those out in the square often have tented booths which are more time consuming to put in place.

I hope that whatever improvements are decided for the square that these enhance artists' abilities to put on a great summer show.
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noinipo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 06:10 pm
ossobuco, my son (and his friends) won. He is even more proud than I am.
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http://www.thestar.com/News/article/189900
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shepaints
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 12:04 pm
Congratulations to the winners!

I think Winston will enjoy his new, leafier surroundings....


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/permanent_rose_photos/winstonatnathanphilips.jpg
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 07:20 pm
noinipo, you might enjoy this -

http://www.asla.org/land/dirt/blog/

the present issue of Dirt features this site planning.




Shepaints, how in the world are you?!!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2007 06:12 pm
Oh, noinipo, I am happy for them and you!

I admit I only studied the entries for about twenty minutes, had to go out, and when I did study for that short time, I was totally confused by the article's mention of the colonnade, there being a different colonnade and building in the first photo. I couldn't find that again, and then there were all these apparent stick-poles.... And I didn't know what adjacent buildings or site orientation they were talking about half the time. Then my computer crashed, and I lost track of this.
(You know I like the work I've seen on their website.)


Here's the Star article -
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/190051

The city's new heart


http://www.thestar.com/images/assets/191432_3.JPG
Plant Architect Inc., Toronto, with Shore Tilbe Irwin & Partners (architect, Toronto); Peter Lindsay Schaudt Landscape Architecture, Inc. (landscape architect, Chicago); Adrian Blackwell (design collaborator, Toronto); Blackwell Bowick Partnership Limited (structural engineer, Toronto); and Crossey Engineering Ltd. (mechanical and electrical engineers, Toronto)
(I'm guessing that photo credit goes to the architect's office, but not sure.)

Winning bid sees revamped `stage' to showcase city's green vision
Cleaner, greener and more sustainable - that is the new vision of the city and that will be the new face of Toronto's most important public space.
Elegant, treed design chosen for remake, now it's up to public, firms to raise $24M
Mar 09, 2007 04:30 AM
John Spears

CITY HALL BUREAU

Toronto has an elegant new design to rejuvenate Nathan Phillips Square.

Now all that's needed is the money to get the job done.

A six-member jury announced the winner of the design competition at city hall last night: Plant Architect Inc. & Shore Tilbe Irwin.

It features a permanent stage on the west side of the square, and a new restaurant and skating change rooms west of the reflecting pool.

Thickly planted trees will sprout along the Queen St. side of the square, with more trees along Bay St. The Peace Garden shifts to the west edge of the square and the roof of the main city hall podium will become a lawn and sculpture garden.

Seats will be scattered across the open spaces of the square and a disappearing fountain will spout water. Top standards for environmental design are featured throughout.

The one fly in the ointment: The city doesn't yet have money in the kitty for the $40 million project. City council has earmarked $16 million in its five-year capital budget. That leaves $24 million that Mayor David Miller says must be raised from public and corporate donations.

But Miller noted that the project is designed so it can proceed in stages, so the money needn't flow all at once. And fundraising will cement the public's bonds with the square, he said.

"We're confident we'll be able to raise the money to complete it as it should be," Miller said after the winner was announced.

"It should be magnificent. That's what we deserve in this city and I think building a partnership with Torontonians is the way to do it."

Nor will the need for money stop with the original construction tab.

The city absorbed a stern warning from the jury that, once completed, the rejuvenated square will need ongoing care and attention.

Their proposal: A curator to care for the square's physical well-being and to co-ordinate activities that take place in it.

"We firmly believe that the new space will require a new level of stewardship that frankly has not been evident in the past," architect Eric Haldenby, who chaired the jury, told Miller and the assembled notables after announcing the winner.

Public spaces need attention, he said in an interview:

"My sense is in Nathan Phillips Square there has not been a co-ordinated oversight of the space itself ... The consequences are a kind of slow deterioration of the space.

"If they go ahead with the proposition of the sustainability features, like the gardens on the roof, they cannot be just left like the sort of paltry things that are up there now," he said.

"There has to be a new level of commitment."

The jury even proposed a source for funding to keep the square spruced up.

There is, Haldenby said "$7.5 million (in revenue) from the parking garage downstairs: If we're into sustainability, there could be a little bit of a tax from parking, in our view."

If the city neglects the square, he said, the members won't be silent: "We assure the city that we the jury will not walk away and forget it ... We will be watching."

The jury included former mayor David Crombie and author Michael Ondaatje.

Andrew Frontini, a member of the winning team, said the designers were sensitive to the city's uncertain finances. "It actually breaks down into discrete pieces quite nicely, so we imagine our design could be very successfully staged," he said.

"For example, we could start with the rejuvenation of the podium or the elevated walkway, and not worry about the restaurant or the theatre for a few years."

Miller said Chicago raised $100 million for its Millennium Park, and Toronto has a history of successful fundraising.

"Torontonians will contribute the same way," he said. "People contributed to Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts right across the street, ROM, all these institutions.

"Nathan Phillips Square is the most important space in this city. We've got $16 million of city money in, and I'm confident we'll raise the remaining money soon ... I'm not going to stick a deadline on."

Contributors will be recognized "very discreetly," Miller said; no one will be skating on the Coca-Cola Rink.

"Absolutely not," he said. "This is Nathan Phillips Square, that's how it's going to remain."

Miller said his confidence in the project was boosted by the passion of the winning design team: "I think that passion's going to translate into tremendous rejuvenation of this public space."

Frontini said he hopes the environmental sensitivity of the design will be "a banner to the city of Toronto and a statement that says: `We are a city that supports sustainability.'"
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noinipo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2007 07:31 am
The Toronto City Hall is a wonderful sight and Henry Moore's Archer has become a part of the surroundings. I have never lived in TO and did not realize how much the square was used every day.
One can sell everything by throwing ads at the public. An architect has to build something outstanding. It will do more for him than a thousand ads.
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Thanks ossobuco, for the post and the picture. What a feeling it must be, to sit in a popular public place and think: I designed this pleasure island in the busy city.
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shepaints
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2007 12:27 pm
Hi Osso....I am very well thank you enjoying spring skiing in northern Quebec . I wonder why anyone would vacation in freezing December! The sun shines in March and the snow is perfection!

RE: Nathan Phillips....That overpass like structure curving towards the rotunda is actually the concrete collonade. The columns are underneath and not visible in the posted picture.

I was at Nathan Phillips the weekend before last trying out my new camera. My photo of Winston is very compressed. I wasn`t
sure what file size to post, the original photo has a lot more detail.

Many people were out enjoying skating on the rink. It is great to see the green design win. Yes, it must be very rewarding for the architects to see their work realized in the heart of the city!
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noinipo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2007 02:07 pm
This magnifiscent sculpture cost $100 000. Hard to believe that a Picasso canvas goes for several millions.
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Its official name is Three-Way Piece No. 2, but most Torontonians know the large sculpture in Nathan Phillips Square as the Archer.
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Architect Viljo Revell asked British sculptor, Henry Moore, to design and create a statue that would complement the flowing lines of City Hall.
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The Archer is a 2.5 tonne bronze free-form statue that rests on a concrete base, surrounded by a floor of concrete embedded with stones.
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http://www.toronto.ca/city_hall_tour/archer.htm
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2007 03:42 pm
a wonderful song about Toronto and the Henry Moore sculpture in Nathan Phillips Square

DOWN BY THE HENRY MOORE

Murray McLauchlin


I walked down to Kensington Market
Bought me a fish to fry
I went to the Silver Dollar
Looked a stranger in the eye
A friend of mine says
That he don't think this town's so out of sight
But he's got shades 'round his soul
And he thinks he's seen the light

Singin' don't you want to keep on moving
Don't you want to get undone
Don't you want to change from losing
Don't you want to have some fun

I went down to the Palm Grove
I was jumpin' around the room
I was wearing my sneakers down
And castin' away my gloom
This fat girl come up and grabbed me
She sat me on her knee
She said you wrote that Farmer's Song
And she spilled a drink on me

Singin' don't you want to keep on moving
Don't you want to get undone
Don't you want to change from losing
Don't you want to have some fun

I went down to the Henry Moore
Skated all in the Square
The moon above my shoulder
And the ice was in my hair
Alone but never lonely
That's how I like to be
If you want to have fun
Like a rock'n roll bum
Don't think the worst of me

Singin' don't you want to keep on moving
Don't you want to get undone
Don't you want to change from losing
Don't you want to have some fun

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I knew this song before I knew the sculpture. Man, I was so ready for it when I got to town. Skating at Nathan Phillips Square, a truly wonderful Toronto experience.

I'm looking forward to the space becoming even more usable - with additional protection from the sun.
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shepaints
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 05:34 pm
50% more shade being offered and a square free of corporate logos.
Sounds good to me!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 05:40 pm
As long as we're talking Toronto, here's an article I've been meaning to post..

http://www.architechmag.com/Articles/detailArchitech.asp?ArticleID=3529
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 05:45 pm
ehBeth, that song reminds me of.....
UCLA. There was a Henry Moore in the sculpture garden by the art building.
Hmmm, that art building has just been reconstructed in what seems like nifty new architecture as well.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 20 Mar, 2007 04:12 pm
Ahem, here's a dumpo on the Nathan Phillips Square plan...

http://www.thestar.com/article/190758
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 20 Mar, 2007 04:20 pm
Rosie's always got an interesting perspective on things. She's not going to be happy-happy just to keep the PTB frown-free.
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noinipo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 06:02 am
Who is this too-clever-by-half woman? After reading her pretentious rant I felt like taking a shower.
I wonder what she would write about 'Lord' Conrad Black's office?
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shepaints
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 07:32 am
Yes, St. Peter's Square is very beautiful, but this is not Rome, it's Toronto. Is Rosie taking into account Rome's relatively balmy winters in
her comparison? I can't imagine too many people being attracted to Nathan Phillips square mid-winter without a skating rink to enjoy.
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