What's so great about America

BWShooter
I agree with McTag do not believe pistoff nor Titus hate America. Their target alway seems to be Bush and his administration.

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BWShooter, provide explicit examples nd links for your remark please Exclamation

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BillW wrote:

BWShooter, provide explicit examples nd links for your remark please

its on the politics forum, their disdain is in practically every thread.
Another great thing about America- you can rail against the president and not go to jail or be executed. People take their freedoms for granted. What a shame.

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Doesn't work, can't figure out what you mean - examples or are you just railing Question

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BillW wrote:

Doesn't work, can't figure out what you mean - examples or are you just railing

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270

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BWShooter wrote:

BillW wrote:
BWShooter, provide explicit examples nd links for your remark please

its on the politics forum, their disdain is in practically every thread.
Another great thing about America- you can rail against the president and not go to jail or be executed. People take their freedoms for granted. What a shame.

BWS,

You are making a very strong accusation against fellow Americans. If you say I hate my country is fighting words.

Provide examples or shut up!

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ebrown_p wrote:

You are making a very strong accusation against fellow Americans. If you say I hate my country is fighting words.

Provide examples or shut up!

lol, and you own the board? Settle down junior. The examples are there but its up to you to read them. I have no problem w/ those who voice opposition to the current prez but at least dont hide behind veiled threats and weak sarcasm.

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BWShooter wrote:

BillW wrote:
Doesn't work, can't figure out what you mean - examples or are you just railing

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270

I follow your link and get:

c.i. wrote:

Good article, blatham. Much of that form of language has disappeared from our vocabulary, but a pleasure to read for anyone from that generation. Who would not enjoy reading these statements in today's political climate, "And in the twentieth century, though the United States came to the rescue of Britain and France in two world wars, many Europeans were suspicious of its motives. A constant refrain throughout this long literature of complaint, and what European intellectuals even now find most repugnant, is American sanctimoniousness, the habit of dressing the business of power in the garb of piety." c.i.

From c.i., one of the most appreciated poster on A2K - you're one sick dude.

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Damn
This is the first time that I have read this Forum and I see that someone has mis-characterized me. Confused

I do not hate America! I hate the present Regime and what they are doing to the Amreica that I love. I have been to many states and also Japan and a few countries in Europe.
I am not speaking from only reading zines, books or watching TV.
America has cool music and many people have values that I respect. It took this country a 100 years to get some Civil Rights and we still need more work in that area but we did it.

We have great Artists, musical and otherwise. We strive to be generous to others in the world. A lot of what others have said, I agree with. I would like to see America become better and set fine examples for other countries not jam our culture down their throats. If our culture is cool others will dig on it and maybe copy some of it. That has happened. Many people around the world like Americans but they don't like our political policies. I loath Imperialism and our Govt. propping up brutal regimes just so our business is smooth. We can change those.

We have tried to help the disadvantaged but now are slipping back to not caring about people that need our help. We can do better.

So in closing please don't hang a label on me when you don't really know me. Thanks.

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pistoff wrote:

So in closing please don't hang a label on me when you don't really know me. Thanks.

I agree. Well said Pistoff. So you would agree that the following quote which hangs a label on those who believe in God was inappropriate, right?

"Anyone that thinks the writng in the Bible was directed by a god and everything is literally true is a mental case."

Since this is one of several quotes you have written here, I would suggest before you get too mad at someone else for hanging a label on you that you please refrain from hanging a label on others. Thank you.

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I stand by
I stand by what I said. Anyone that believes that everything in the bible is literally true and the actual word of god and that god directly acts upon this planet, is a mental case.

I could list all of the completely absurd notions in the bible but that would take several hours.

Having said the above, I actually feel that the teachings of Jesus, sans all of the supernatural nonsense, are great to strive for. The Right Wing Fundies that espouse Jesus are obviously unaware that Jesus was a Socialist.

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pistoff wrote:

I stand by what I said. Anyone that believes that everything in the bible is literally true and the actual word of god and that god directly acts upon this planet, is a mental case.

I could list all of the completely absurd notions in the bible but that would take several hours.

Having said the above, I actually feel that the teachings of Jesus, sans all of the supernatural nonsense, are great to strive for. The Right Wing Fundies that espouse Jesus are obviously unaware that Jesus was a Socialist.

Then I think you have no right to tell someone else not to label you since you seem to have no problem putting labels on others. The only difference here is he named names while you (at least in this case) hung a label on a whole lot of people. I don't see a difference. Do you? If so, please enlighten me.

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Enlightenment can only come from within.

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CoastalRat
Read and be enlightened.

http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23269&sid=d1dad2002f456c204f1d314a657342a4

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ah, i might have guessed that this discussion was off topic;
- four pages on "What's so great about America"??? -

my answer would be 'Canada'! Laughing

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au1929 wrote:

CoastalRat
Read and be enlightened.

http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23269&sid=d1dad2002f456c204f1d314a657342a4

Ah yes, enlightenment. I feel like I know so much more now. Anyway, the point which both of you do not address is the apparent hypocrisy of labeling someone yet writing a post asking others not to label you based on what they read in your posts. But of course, Pistoff ignores the fact that he is doing exactly what he asked someone not to do to him. But I guess that is ok. After all, he is so very enlightened yet resorts to name calling like a couple of children.

So please someone explain why it is ok for Pistoff to place labels on people but it is not ok for someone such as BWShooter to label him. Surely for such enlightened individuals this explaination should be simple.

Now, since I should get back on topic as to what is great about America, I will add to all that has previously been written that it is great to live in a country where regardless of our political and religious views we are free to discuss them without fear of the government coming to arrest us for it.
Oh, and did I mention cheap gasoline (as compared with most of the rest of the world). Oh yes, and 2 major political parties to provide us with all kinds of good discussion material. I could go on and on, but I must get to work.

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Well, having followed this for a while, i agree with CoastalRat that no one has addressed the question of why Pistoff should complain of being "labelled," fresh from doing some eggregious labelling himself. I have been much amused to see CR press the question, while it is being assiduously ignored.

Which is not to say that i agree with everything CR writes. The following statement almost made my stomach turn:

"Oh yes, and 2 major political parties to provide us with all kinds of good discussion material."

Yes, a hair-splitting discussion of the minute differences between two conservative political organizations. The reference to two major political parties is disingenuous, as well, as there are no other viable political parties, at either the national or state level. Every other group describing itself a political party is indulging in self-delusion. In my never humble opinion, the so-called "two party system" is one of the saddest aspects of our polity.

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wELL why dont you start your own party set? it is aparantly a free country. You get my vote as long as you refrain from historical discourse. I'm with you for the barbeque and the beer...all the way with er somebody J

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Setanta wrote:

Well, having followed this for a while, i agree with CoastalRat that no one has addressed the question of why Pistoff should complain of being "labelled," fresh from doing some eggregious labelling himself. I have been much amused to see CR press the question, while it is being assiduously ignored.

Which is not to say that i agree with everything CR writes. The following statement almost made my stomach turn:

"Oh yes, and 2 major political parties to provide us with all kinds of good discussion material."

Yes, a hair-splitting discussion of the minute differences between two conservative political organizations. The reference to two major political parties is disingenuous, as well, as there are no other viable political parties, at either the national or state level. Every other group describing itself a political party is indulging in self-delusion. In my never humble opinion, the so-called "two party system" is one of the saddest aspects of our polity.

My political party quote was made to lighten things a bit. I would be all for having several other "major" political parties in this country. I like choices. Although I am a registered republican, it does not mean I may like the republican candidate that is put forth. But in most cases the democrat is so far from my political beliefs and with no other choices (particularly on a state level normally), I choose the lesser of what I believe to be 2 evils. Anyway, if I get the drift of your post Set, I did not mean to say there are no other political parties, it is just that most of the discussions center around the dems and repubs.

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well I have to apologise for my last post. Summer is here, something funny happens to Brits when exposed to sunlight

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