Atheists, smarter than religious people

Foley, Most of us understand different things from dictionaries and resources available to us through books and the internet. If the internest defines one religion one way, and somebody comes out and tells us it's wrong; we have a conflict.

However, I appreciate your taking the time to tell us how you interprest your religion. That's not wholly unrealistic, considering all Catholics (just an example) don't think alike.

What I'm trying to say is that your Hinduism is probably not the same as the majority of Hindus - as defined by many resources.

That's okay with me, and I appreciate your "take" on what you believe.

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I know Hindus who conceive of their religion not altogether as does Foley. And I know many (and there are millions) of Buddhist who do not share my understanding of Buddhism. But most of those who disagree with Foley and with me are followers of popular Hinduism and Buddhism, versions not much more sophisticated than Pat Robertson's Christianity.
We must distinguish between "low" (exoteric?) and "high" (esosteric?) levels of all religions

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Religion, when practice, is a means to explore the self and the world it resides in, to grow in the understanding of both and achieve a more harmonic existence.

Religion, when preached, has more similarities with politics.

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Very good.

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What if, to practice my religion, I must spread the word?

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Write a book. But is it a truly religious precept to proselytize? That may reflect one's compact with a "religious" organization, but does it reflect one's relationship with the object of religious inquiry itself?

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JLNobody wrote:

Write a book.

Funny!

JLNobody wrote:

But is it a truly religious precept to proselytize?

I don't know.

JLNobody wrote:

That may reflect one's compact with a "religious" organization, but does it reflect one's relationship with the object of religious inquiry itself?

If the content of a certain religion dictates spreading the word is a moral mandate, I must follow, no? I am pretty sure you could also make an argument that to practice a some religions, I must make war, under certain circumstances.

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I think it's safe to say that proselytizing is expected as a practicing Christian. Jesus' last instructions, according to Matthew, were to "Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations..."

The violence and bloodshed caused by those seemingly innocuous words will never be equaled by any other single command.

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the irony, ofcoarse, is that that so-called command (of god) was the creation of man.

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Thanks, C.I., I was about to give in when you entered. My sense of religion (re-connecting the individual with the Cosmos) differs from the "religion" claimed for ideological communities we call churches.

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Chumly wrote:

What if, to practice my religion, I must spread the word?

They you're a tool.

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Screw you guys I'm going home!

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Chumly, you mean just for the night, right? I think you're just as stuck on us as we are on you. See you later.

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tycoon wrote:

I think it's safe to say that proselytizing is expected as a practicing Christian. Jesus' last instructions, according to Matthew, were to "Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations..."

The violence and bloodshed caused by those seemingly innocuous words will never be equaled by any other single command.

Do you understand the difference between use and misuse? Apparently not.

Aside from that:

To assert that Christ's words (or anyone else's words, ever) 'caused' violence and bloodshed (or anything else) is ludicrous.

Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

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Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

100% Wrong ! Words arn't simply about "reality".....they create reality. The word "missionary" segments social reality into those who are "saved" and those who need "saving".

The limits of my language are the limits of my world. Wittgenstein.

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real wrote: Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

Seems real was never in the military service.

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real life wrote:

tycoon wrote:
I think it's safe to say that proselytizing is expected as a practicing Christian. Jesus' last instructions, according to Matthew, were to "Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations..."

The violence and bloodshed caused by those seemingly innocuous words will never be equaled by any other single command.

Do you understand the difference between use and misuse? Apparently not.

Aside from that:

To assert that Christ's words (or anyone else's words, ever) 'caused' violence and bloodshed (or anything else) is ludicrous.

Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

If you REALLY believe this, then all the bad AND the good of christianity is by the actions and reactions of it's followers. Jesus's words would be trivial and insignificant.

Or do they only cause positive actions?

False. Invalid.

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fresco wrote:

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Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

100% Wrong ! Words arn't simply about "reality".....they create reality. The word "missionary" segments social reality into those who are "saved" and those who need "saving".

The limits of my language are the limits of my world. Wittgenstein.

Calling you a missionary all day long would not make you a missionary.

Telling you to be a missionary would not either.

However, you choose your own actions.

If it were otherwise, I could control the whole world by what I say.

It ain't so.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

real wrote: Words don't 'cause' anything. People choose their own actions and reactions.

Seems real was never in the military service.

Weak point, CI.

Did anyone in the military ever disobey an order?

Words don't 'cause' anything.

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real, Your brain is so twisted, it doesn't comprehend the simplest of examples. Too spatial for you?

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