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Fri 26 Jan, 2007 02:56 pm
Hi,
The turner prize winner is Tomma Abts this year.
If you dont know who that is then look at the other turner prize thread on here.
What I want to know is, (and why I have made a different thread to the existing one):
Peoples opinions on this.
Is this art? Do you like it? Do you think its good? What is your reaction?
Thank you very much pq xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sure, it's art. I think most of them are pretty boring but some of them are kind of interesting.
I probably posted that other thread. I'll have to go back and look at the work. I somewhat remember a yawn reaction on my part, but, sure, it's art.
PC, you ask three different questions: Is this art? Do you like it? Do you think its good?
I don't like to comment on what is or isn't art. That's a definitional matter subject to the meanings we make up and assign to the world.
The other two, do I like something and do I think it's good, overlap but are basically distinct. I think some art is "good", given the way the artworld cognoscenti respond to it, but I may not like it personally. And, rarely, I may like something that is not generally recognized as art. I myself may not even consider what I like as art--as in the case recently where I responded with intense aesthetic pleasure to a pattern of cracks on a sidewalk. (obviously I do not believe in "found art")
JLNobody wrote:as in the case recently where I responded with intense aesthetic pleasure to a pattern of cracks on a sidewalk. (obviously I do not believe in "found art")
Oh, I know what you mean. I still recall a particular pattern of cracked paint in a bathroom stall from probably about 10 years ago. Seriously!
Stuh, did the image appeal to you because of the way it "represented" something or because of its purely abstract (formal) qualities? (or both?)
It looked like a grinning fox's head, but of course had abstract qualities to it as well
Tomma Abts' paintings are among those, I really like.
Which doesn't mean that I would buy them (if I had the money).
walter hindler: Why do you like them, what is it that makes you like them.
I just googled Abts and found one picture of three sculpted "karioke" singers. I liked their emotional power (a bit like the few sculptures of Willem deKooning). I then saw three paintings that were purely decorative in the emotionally bland sense of the worst of Brice Marden's decorations.
I know I should have sampled more of Abts' work.
The Pentacle Queen wrote:walter hindler: Why do you like them, what is it that makes you like them.
I really can't say it in a few words - it's for me an eye-catcher, something, I like to look at, ...
This is the link to her exhibition in Basel, which was the basis for the Turner prize.
Walter, her painting, "Noeme", is exquisite (almost religious). Thanks.
hmm, ok,
well my opinion is, I don't actually like the images that she produces, but I like the motive behind them. The way that she sees the final outcome as a 'concentrate of the paintings underneath' I think thats a wonderfull idea, even if I don't like the image.
These paintings don't do much for me; they look like exercises.
Josef Albers: Homage to the Square is so much more impressive to me.
When it comes to taste, anything goes.
I tend to agree, noinipo, but speaking of taste (which is the final word in art, indicating its profoundly subjective nature, or--culturally speaking--its inter-subjective nature), I prefer her Noeme to any of Albers "exercises."
Agreed, it is a lovely design, very feminine. I feel that some artists paint for the public and applause and others paint for themselves. They are the more honest ones, and the poor ones, I believe.