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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 09:17 am
@Roberta,
Raccoon dogs aren't as cute as the more diminutive American namesakes. They're found in East Asia (Russia and Japan only?). They are more dog and less raccoon being in the canid family. Here's one from Russia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Nyctereutes_procyonoides_4_%28Piotr_Kuczynski%29.jpg/800px-Nyctereutes_procyonoides_4_%28Piotr_Kuczynski%29.jpg

and here's one from Japan, from the movie Pom Poko (they're using their nut-sacks to parachute):
http://image.mabulle.com/m/ma/malilin.mabulle.com/pompoko2.jpg
Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 09:55 am
From Arizona Highways, my pictorial link to the American West, comes this picture of a dove. I'm not a big fan of doves. In fact I think they're the third-lowest life form in New York City, the two lowest ones being rats and stock brokers. But this sure is a beautiful picture of one:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/guthobla/A2K/ArizonaHighways_Barry_Hart_dove.jpg
(Photographer: Barry Hart)
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 10:04 am
@littlek,
Miss Roberta, I had no idea there was such a thing as a racoon dog! I thought at first it was a photoshopped picture and then littlek posted it said where they are from. Do either of you know if they are vicious? I know racoons can be extremely vicious but also can be relatively tame. He is rather a strange looking creature and those eyes are so sweet.
littlek
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:59 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella, I know Roberta brought this up already, but you keep using words like vicious! Roberta made a comment about animals not being vicious so much as being what they are: predators. I think of people who think wild animals are dangerous and vicious as people who don't know animals, but you do - you're a horse person! I don't know why I think it's so funny, but I do find it amusing.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 04:52 pm
Foist, Thomas, pigeons are pigeons (many varieties), and doves are doves (many varieties). Related, but not the same animal. I love pigeons. Oiban boids. The photo you posted of a dove is a beauty. Thanks, kid.

Raccoon dogs were originally native to just a few places in Asia (Japan for one). They were imported to other countries (like Russia and countries in eastern Europe) to improve their fur-bearing ability. They now have a much wider range.

Although they are genetically unique, they are more closely related to foxes than raccoons. They are omnivores. These guys will eat anything.

Arella Mae, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by vicious. If you saw one strolling down a forest path and went to pet it, it would probably run away. If you had it cornered or if it felt threatened, it would probably attack.

Come to think of it, so would I.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 07:33 pm
@Roberta,
I will try to explain what I mean. Take dogs for instance, they are not normally vicious. You can train them, etc. I know you can train racoons and other animals but that wildness is always in them. I think maybe I am just using the wrong term when I say vicious. I used to have a family of racoons come on my porch every night and eat leftover catfood. I loved to watch them because they seemed so tame and sweet. Well, I quickly learned how vicious a racoon can be when the dominant male got angry at one of the younger males. It was almost like he was a different animal.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 08:51 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella, I think the word "aggressive" describes what you mean more precisely than "vicious" does. The word "vicious"---literally, "marked by vice"---suggests that the raccoon knows vice from virtue and is choosing vice. But raccoons don't, in fact, know vice from virtue, and cannot make conscious choices about anything. Only we humans can do that. In non-human animals, aggression always comes from instincts, never moral turpitude.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 08:55 pm
@Thomas,
Thank you Thomas! I will remember that.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 12:57 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

Well, I quickly learned how vicious a racoon can be when the dominant male got angry at one of the younger males. It was almost like he was a different animal.


Arella Mae, What you're describing is not at all viciousness. For animals in which there is an alpha (male and/or female), the alpha will always assert itself. It's the way the order of the group is maintained and the way the other animals can learn and be a part of the group.

In the case you're describing, the younger male overstepped his bounds. The alpha has dibs on all food and all food choices. Don't be pushy with the alpha. EVER!

This principle applies to lions, chimps, meerkats, wild canids, hippos, elephants, monkeys, gorillas, and on and on.

Have you ever seen wild chimps on a hunt? I've seen films of this. Our very closest relatives are very impressive, intelligent, and successful hunters. They hunt and eat monkeys. The alpha leads the charge and gets the goodies. Sometimes it will share with associates.

Chimps have also been known to be at war (territorial issues) with other troops. They will fight to the death. Vicious? Or instinctive?

I do not believe that there is anything "vicious" in the natural world. If a dog is "vicious," it's likely the result of human action.

At this point, I'm guessing that you know that I think there is only one truly vicious animal on the planet. Us.



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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 02:44 am
Wolverine:

http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/news/chiefeditor/wolverine-picture-1.jpg
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 04:07 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

Arella Mae wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9ks36c549BI/THxUEHx7jPI/AAAAAAAABlU/tcQhgwgTmhQ/s1600/puffin.jpg

I don't know what kind of bird this is.

Cycloptichorn
What an unusual picture. Amazing.
I just realized why I am so fascinated by this picture. This little guy kind of looks like an Osprey (not the bird, the aircraft) in flight.


That's it! You are exactly right.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 04:43 am
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

According to the link on it, it's a puffin..
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBeP2xnRLSXVaTLkQPMI6GvRX_dYZgXvAWG7VU3L8pFbS_0D0&t=1&usg=__LJzYDWIr4ojpv5M8dBKfLJSvAR8=


http://www.seabird.org/assets/gallery/birds/puffin13.jpg
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 06:03 am
The boid is about as puffiny as you can get. Just spent some time looking up osprey aircraft to see if I could detect a resemblance. Couldn't.

Elkhorn coral:

http://www.oceanleadership.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Elkhorn_Coral_NOAA.jpg
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 07:53 am
@Roberta,
Miss Roberta,

An Osprey aircraft takes off like a helicopter but flies like a plane. I will see if I can find a picture that reminds me of that Puffin. I think I am understanding what you are saying about vicious and thank you for explaining it.

Here is a short video of the Osprey Aircraft in flight. The very last part of the clip looks (to me anyway) the same shape as the Puffin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMhbfBnGO-o
Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 08:42 am
@Arella Mae,
Thanks for the video link, Arella Mae. I think I kinda sorta saw the similarity--mebbe.

djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 08:45 am
back from the great white north, not many animal pics (and my camera has stopped working, picture wise anyway,but the video still works) but will post the few pics i have plus some videos in the next day or so
Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 09:08 am
@djjd62,
Welcome back, dj. Looking forward to whatever you got.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2010 09:10 am
@Roberta,
LOL!
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2010 02:33 am
Sloth bear:

http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Publications/ZooGoer/2006/5/IMAGES/Sloth_bear_big.jpg

Three-toed sloth with baby:

http://www.factzoo.com/sites/all/img/mammals/three-toed-sloth-with-child.jpg
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2010 03:51 am
@Roberta,
That mother and child sloth look so peaceful and content. Very Happy
 

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