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Bring David Hicks home (from Guantanamo) before Christmas!

 
 
MizunoMan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 08:19 am
No public sympathy for Hicks

By Piers Akerman

December 26, 2006 07:03am

DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche - with good reason.

He is no martyr. He craved to kill. He lusted death in the Islamist cause.

He was, according to his own enthusiastic gushings, a more than willing recruit for the Pakistani terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET), or "Army of the Righteous", in whose ranks he fought against Indian army troops after training at the notorious Mosqua Aqsa base.

He took a letter of introduction and funding from LET to enter al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, including al Farouq, where he met Osama bin Laden and allegedly accepted the terrorist leader's invite to translate al-Qaeda training into English.

He is reported to have provided information about Australia to al-Qaeda and conducted surveillance on targets in Kabul, including the British and US Embassies. Although he was in Pakistan on 9/11, he returned to Afghanistan to rejoin al-Qaeda colleagues guarding arms near Kandahar airport.

His stated intent, according to letters he wrote boasting of his acceptance as "an official Taliban member", was to be a killer in the cause of "an Islamic revolution" for which he was prepared to accept "martyrdom".

If we accept his own admission, it is most likely he will be easier to convict than Abu Bakar Bashir, whose release from an Indonesian jail distressed many Australians last week.

While it is unfortunate that he has yet to be brought to trial because of the numerous appeals brought on his behalf and some others held in Guantanamo, he will eventually have his deserved day in court on charges which could not be brought against him in Australia.

While it was noteworthy that his father Terry Hicks, who has relentlessly campaigned for his son's release, was nominated for Father of the Year, it was just as telling that the idiot who nominated him was none other than the ACT's hapless chief minister John Stanhope, a throwback from some distant socialist era who championed independence for the ACT.

But when Stanhope was shown to have signally failed constituents in the face of killer bushfires, he cravenly refused to accept the responsibility that such independence demands.

Hicks (aka Abu Muslim al Austraili aka Muhammed Dawood) and Bashir are peas from the same ideological pod, not withstanding Dawood's claim to have renounced Islam. They shared a wish for the death of all Jews and the destruction of the West. They deserve to be held in universal contempt.

It is curious that those who parade their own religious conviction, devotion to spirituality and moral superiority as they flourish petitions for Hicks appear totally blind to the plight of a true prisoner of conscience in desperate need of support, Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury.

Choudhury, a Bangladeshi journalist, stands accused of damaging the image and relations of his nation "by praising the Jews and Christians, by attempting to travel to Israel and by predicting the so-called rise of Islamist militancy in the country and expressing such thorough writings inside the country and abroad", as well as charges of blasphemy, sedition, treason and espionage.

He was arrested at Zia International Airport on November 29, 2003, as he was about to fly to Israel to attend a writers' conference in Tel Aviv on how the media can foster world peace.

Over the past three years, he has been bashed, held in a detention centre for the criminally insane, had his legs broken while being tortured, been vilified in the Bangladeshi press, refused permission to attend his mother's funeral, denied medical treatment and had his office bombed.

He has pleaded not guilty but his travails have escaped the noisy ranks of the civil liberties lobby.

One of his champions, Dr Richard Benkin - an American human rights activist - has successfully lobbied the US Congress to introduce a resolution calling on Bangladesh to drop all charges against Choudhury.

Dr Benkin is to visit Dhaka on January 8. He has arranged to meet the US Ambassador and would very much like to arrange a meeting with the Australian Ambassador.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer should ensure this is arranged and that Dr Benkin is accorded a sympathetic hearing. Perhaps some of the Australian civil rights lawyers who seem so eager to publish articles condemning various Western governments might consider penning a plea on behalf of this young man.

All he is guilty of is wanting to promote mutual understanding between Muslims and Jews and for this he faces death. Bangladesh does not recognise Israel's existence.

Dr Benkin says Choudhury is unique because he has not sought asylum in the West, but continues to oppose militant Islamists.

He recently told the Jerusalem Post that "more and more Muslims are looking at this case".

"They want to see if Shoaib will get the support and protection he needs from the West. If he is victorious, other Muslims will try the same; if we allow him to go down, they will remain silent."

This man is deserving of our deepest concern. Hicks, who swore allegiance to a group dedicated to the murder of Christians and Jews, should ask his soulmate Bashir for advice.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20974825-5007146,00.html
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 09:58 am
Let's face it, the US is the the responsible for this whole mess. Since Bush has come into office our human rights record has become deplorable. This administration does not even talk about human rights.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 10:02 am
If the man is guilty then bring him to trial and let the courts prove him guilty. At this point he should be released. Justice delayed is justice denied.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 02:39 pm
MizunoMan wrote:
No public sympathy for Hicks

By Piers Akerman

December 26, 2006 07:03am

DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche - with good reason.

He is no martyr. He craved to kill. He lusted death in the Islamist cause.

He was, according to his own enthusiastic gushings, a more than willing recruit for the Pakistani terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET), or "Army of the Righteous", in whose ranks he fought against Indian army troops after training at the notorious Mosqua Aqsa base.

He took a letter of introduction and funding from LET to enter al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, including al Farouq, where he met Osama bin Laden and allegedly accepted the terrorist leader's invite to translate al-Qaeda training into English.

He is reported to have provided information about Australia to al-Qaeda and conducted surveillance on targets in Kabul, including the British and US Embassies. Although he was in Pakistan on 9/11, he returned to Afghanistan to rejoin al-Qaeda colleagues guarding arms near Kandahar airport.

His stated intent, according to letters he wrote boasting of his acceptance as "an official Taliban member", was to be a killer in the cause of "an Islamic revolution" for which he was prepared to accept "martyrdom".

If we accept his own admission, it is most likely he will be easier to convict than Abu Bakar Bashir, whose release from an Indonesian jail distressed many Australians last week.

While it is unfortunate that he has yet to be brought to trial because of the numerous appeals brought on his behalf and some others held in Guantanamo, he will eventually have his deserved day in court on charges which could not be brought against him in Australia.

While it was noteworthy that his father Terry Hicks, who has relentlessly campaigned for his son's release, was nominated for Father of the Year, it was just as telling that the idiot who nominated him was none other than the ACT's hapless chief minister John Stanhope, a throwback from some distant socialist era who championed independence for the ACT.

But when Stanhope was shown to have signally failed constituents in the face of killer bushfires, he cravenly refused to accept the responsibility that such independence demands.

Hicks (aka Abu Muslim al Austraili aka Muhammed Dawood) and Bashir are peas from the same ideological pod, not withstanding Dawood's claim to have renounced Islam. They shared a wish for the death of all Jews and the destruction of the West. They deserve to be held in universal contempt.

It is curious that those who parade their own religious conviction, devotion to spirituality and moral superiority as they flourish petitions for Hicks appear totally blind to the plight of a true prisoner of conscience in desperate need of support, Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury.

Choudhury, a Bangladeshi journalist, stands accused of damaging the image and relations of his nation "by praising the Jews and Christians, by attempting to travel to Israel and by predicting the so-called rise of Islamist militancy in the country and expressing such thorough writings inside the country and abroad", as well as charges of blasphemy, sedition, treason and espionage.

He was arrested at Zia International Airport on November 29, 2003, as he was about to fly to Israel to attend a writers' conference in Tel Aviv on how the media can foster world peace.

Over the past three years, he has been bashed, held in a detention centre for the criminally insane, had his legs broken while being tortured, been vilified in the Bangladeshi press, refused permission to attend his mother's funeral, denied medical treatment and had his office bombed.

He has pleaded not guilty but his travails have escaped the noisy ranks of the civil liberties lobby.

One of his champions, Dr Richard Benkin – an American human rights activist – has successfully lobbied the US Congress to introduce a resolution calling on Bangladesh to drop all charges against Choudhury.

Dr Benkin is to visit Dhaka on January 8. He has arranged to meet the US Ambassador and would very much like to arrange a meeting with the Australian Ambassador.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer should ensure this is arranged and that Dr Benkin is accorded a sympathetic hearing. Perhaps some of the Australian civil rights lawyers who seem so eager to publish articles condemning various Western governments might consider penning a plea on behalf of this young man.

All he is guilty of is wanting to promote mutual understanding between Muslims and Jews and for this he faces death. Bangladesh does not recognise Israel's existence.

Dr Benkin says Choudhury is unique because he has not sought asylum in the West, but continues to oppose militant Islamists.

He recently told the Jerusalem Post that "more and more Muslims are looking at this case".

"They want to see if Shoaib will get the support and protection he needs from the West. If he is victorious, other Muslims will try the same; if we allow him to go down, they will remain silent."

This man is deserving of our deepest concern. Hicks, who swore allegiance to a group dedicated to the murder of Christians and Jews, should ask his soulmate Bashir for advice.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20974825-5007146,00.html



Once again, Piers misses the entire point, as well as assuming, I would argue almost totally incorrectly, that those concerned about the illegal imprisonment of Hicks are NOT concerned about the mistreatment of others.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 11:22 pm
MizunoMan wrote:
No public sympathy for Hicks

By Piers Akerman

December 26, 2006 07:03am

DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche - with good reason.

He is no martyr. He craved to kill. He lusted death in the Islamist cause. .. etc, etc, etc .....


Ah, the world according to Piers! Rolling Eyes

OK, let me fill you in on Piers Ackerman. He is a right-wing commentator who writes columns for Rupert Murdoch's Daily Telegraph & Sunday Telegraph. (tabloid newspapers whose reporting tends toward the colourful & sensationalist.) Piers is one of John Howard's most loyal supporters & apologists, in fact has been often accused as pissing in JH's pocket . (Oz saying.) As John Howard is now (finally!) experiencing quite a bit of heat as a result of David Hicks' 5 years in detention without a trial, Piers obliges by writing a nice little piece telling us about what a nasty fellow David Hicks is! Note: despite comments like "he craved to kill" & "He lusted death in the Islam cause" ... Ackerman has produced not one shred of evidence of any "terrorist" killing that Hicks actually has done. Neither has the previous (defunct) US commission. It seems that Piers Ackerman & others of his ilk think its perfectly OK for David Hicks to be locked up without a trial for 5 whole years for something that he might have done! If he actually had any evidence of terrible terrorist crimes committed by David Hicks wouldn't he have told us all about it? How could he possibly help himself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Akerman
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2007 11:45 pm
MizunoMan wrote:
DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche -


And make no mistake: "the public psyche" does appear to be becoming worrying ignited! (worrying for the conservative government & its apologists, that is. ) It's taken a very long time, but David Hicks' plight is finally receiving the attention here that it deserves. Most likely as a result of all things to do with the Iraq invasion being decidedly on the nose these days. Like just about everywhere else on the planet.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 12:58 am
msolga wrote:
MizunoMan wrote:
No public sympathy for Hicks

By Piers Akerman

December 26, 2006 07:03am

DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche - with good reason.

He is no martyr. He craved to kill. He lusted death in the Islamist cause. .. etc, etc, etc .....


Ah, the world according to Piers! Rolling Eyes

OK, let me fill you in on Piers Ackerman. He is a right-wing commentator who writes columns for Rupert Murdoch's Daily Telegraph & Sunday Telegraph. (tabloid newspapers whose reporting tends toward the colourful & sensationalist.) Piers is one of John Howard's most loyal supporters & apologists, in fact has been often accused as pissing in JH's pocket . (Oz saying.) As John Howard is now (finally!) experiencing quite a bit of heat as a result of David Hicks' 5 years in detention without a trial, Piers obliges by writing a nice little piece telling us about what a nasty fellow David Hicks is! Note: despite comments like "he craved to kill" & "He lusted death in the Islam cause" ... Ackerman has produced not one shred of evidence of any "terrorist" killing that Hicks actually has done. Neither has the previous (defunct) US commission. It seems that Piers Ackerman & others of his ilk think its perfectly OK for David Hicks to be locked up without a trial for 5 whole years for something that he might have done! If he actually had any evidence of terrible terrorist crimes committed by David Hicks wouldn't he have told us all about it? How could he possibly help himself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Akerman


Started his career right here in Adelaide.

Yep, we gave the world Rupert, and the eastern states Piers.


I have apologised as much as I'm gonna, though.


Can't spend the rest of my life on my knees.......



Ha! Bastard is a mate of Kinky Friedman's, and gets mentioned in at least one of his books.



I've had my doubts about old Kinky ever since...but nobody's perfect.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 05:02 am
dlowan wrote:
Started his career right here in Adelaide.

Yep, we gave the world Rupert, and the eastern states Piers.


I have apologised as much as I'm gonna, though.


Can't spend the rest of my life on my knees.......


Yikes, there must be something in that Adelaide water!

Two such peaches from the one place!

We don't hold it against you, Deb, honestly we don't ..... :wink:
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 05:12 am
MizunoMan wrote:
No public sympathy for Hicks

By Piers Akerman

December 26, 2006 07:03am

DESPITE blanket coverage on the national broadcaster and in the alternative media, and hours of prayers from deluded church leaders looking for flocks to lead, Taliban member David Hicks still fails to ignite the public psyche .....


Just one last thing regarding this silly article:

Ackerman suggests that it's just the ABC (the national broadcaster) & the alternative media that has been giving coverage to this issue. (cranks & commies, obviously! :wink:) This is simply not true. Most of the links provided here are from the AGE, the Sydney Morning Herald & some from The Australian. Three of the Australia's most respected newspapers. And may I say they cover the issue a damn sight more intelligently & objectively than he does!
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 06:50 am
Hicks 'faces two more years in jail'
January 9, 2007 - 10:44AM/the AGE

Friday marks five years since David Hicks was detained in the US military camp at Guantanamo Bay and he will be there another two years if the Australian Government does not help him, his lawyer David McLeod says.

........Mr McLeod said the Australian Government must now step in and help the 31 year old.

"Our expectation is that if this government does nothing, that David Hicks will still be there in two years time awaiting trial," Mr McLeod told ABC radio today.

"A reason for that is Supreme Court challenges to this new military commission brought by other detainees, not necessarily David Hicks, but challenges that will delay the process such that he will be sitting there biding his time, contemplating taking his life, no doubt, because of what we've heard about his mental state."


Foreign Minister Alexander Downer acknowledged yesterday the saga had been dragging on for a long time, but said there were another 180 Australians facing legal action around the world.

Mr McLeod said Hicks' case was different.

"No doubt the other 180 people facing legal processes around the world, they're all facing charges," he said.

"David Hicks currently is not facing any charges, he's not even before any regular legal system and I would imagine that the other people Mr Downer is referring to are facing charges before regular legal systems and to compare Mr Hicks with any of those others is simply misinformed." ... <cont>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/hicks-faces-two-more-years-in-jail/2007/01/09/1168104957520.html
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MizunoMan
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 10:48 am
HICKS TEAM HIS WORST ENEMY

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21019470-5007146,00.html

GET braced for an avalanche of propaganda over the next few days as the ABC and some other media outlets whip themselves into a frenzy to mark self-professed al-Qaeda warrior David Hicks's fifth year in incarceration.

In the course of this orgiastic exercise, some facts will become blurred and others distorted beyond recognition.

Among the worst offenders will be the usual publicity-seeking lawyers from civil rights lobby groups, who appear determined to use Hicks's plight as a vehicle for their own aggrandisement.

As the Free-Hicks lobby's demands reach a crescendo to mark Thursday's anniversary, it would pay cooler heads to remember the following facts when they hear some of the jackasses braying about the need to release him without trial.

First, contrary to what is often claimed, Hicks has been charged with offences. Three to be precise, including attempted murder, aiding the enemy and conspiracy against the US.

Those charges were laid under the initial framework of the anti-terrorist laws enacted by Executive Authority. That authority was challenged and overturned by the US Supreme Court last year and the charges were voided. New ones will be laid under the new Act approved by Congress.

That there has been a delay in bringing Hicks to trial is also not unusual but unavoidable. Appeals lengthen the process as the pleas are heard - the squeals that would fill the airwaves, if such appeals were not treated seriously, would be even louder than the calls for Hicks's release.

But remember that notorious Sydney gang rapist Bilal Skaf also successfully appealed against a rape conviction after it was learnt that two jurors, who had found him guilty, had visited the site of one of his crimes to better inform themselves of the terrain.

When that conviction was quashed, Skaf remained in prison on other convictions until a new trial was held. Does anyone recall a civil rights lawyer protesting that Skaf wasn't released despite delay in commencing his new trial? No.

Nor is it a fact that Hicks has been forgotten or ignored by the Government. At last count, he had been visited in Cuba on 17 occasions by consular staff.

A famous former NSW premier and accomplished barrister once remarked that "anyone can go to jail if they get the right lawyer", and it seems that Hicks's team passed up the opportunity to have their client dealt with speedily by a plea bargain when he was first charged. The deal was rejected.

That Hicks in Guantanamo will be charged under the new Act passed with congressional authority rather than the executive authority which was successfully appealed, does not bode well for a future challenge should Hicks's lawyer, Major Michael Mori, decide to appeal, as he has indicated he might.

The US Supreme Court is much less likely to reject laws voted through Congress than those issued from the Executive Office. A further appeal against the legality of the military commission set to try him could easily add another two years to the process.

Hicks's supporters have also, rather stupidly and noisily, lambasted the appointment of his lawyer by the US military, and the fact that the military will appoint his judges and prosecutors.

In truth, this differs not at all or is not, in any way, more sinister than what occurs in Australian criminal courts when a defendant is provided with a court-appointed lawyer to appear against a public prosecutor before a judge, with the Australian government appointing and paying the judge, the defence and the prosecution.

Without getting into his tactics, is anyone really suggesting that Major Mori has not been tireless in his endeavours to have his client released?

The new Act under which Hicks will be charged also incorporates such fundamental safeguards as the presumption of innocence, a right to be present throughout the trial, a right to cross-examine prosecution witnesses, a ban on evidence obtained by torture, access to all the evidence the prosecution intends to adduce at trial, the provision of military defence counsel and the ability to retain civilian defence counsel, the option to remain silent or testify at trial, standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt, double jeopardy protections, and an appeals process right up to the US Supreme Court.

It has also been agreed that he will not be subjected to the death penalty and, if convicted, his sentence can be served in an Australian jail.

It is clear that it will be alleged that Hicks was a combatant who armed himself with a Kalashnikov after 9/11, and fought against Coalition forces, and indeed wrote about his commitment to kill Christians and Jews.

He did not propose to offer them a trial.

While no one could argue that he has not been held for a long period, it can be argued and demonstrated that he and his legal team have contributed to prolonging that experience.

What's clear is that neither the Australian nor the US government is responsible for the plight Hicks finds himself in now.

His supporters should demand that al-Qaeda warn recruits of the possibility of lengthy legal processes after capture when inducting future new trainees.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 02:46 pm
MizunoMan wrote:
What's clear is that neither the Australian nor the US government is responsible for the plight Hicks finds himself in now.



More pearls from Piers, MizunoMan? :wink:

Yep, Hicks' plight has nought to do with the Oz & US governments. And he's probably just as bad as that "notorious Sydney gang rapist Bilal Skaf", quoted in the article! (You're getting a wee bit desperate, Piers!)

MizunoMan, if you want to find more Anne Coulter-type Oz "journalists" who'll support your views it's easy enough to find them if you look. After a while Piers tends to get rather repetitive & predictable. His credibility is not exactly high here. Even Gerard Henderson (of the famed Sydney Institute) refers to his articles as "research-lite".
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 03:11 pm
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/09/1001_cartoon_gallery__470x323,0.jpg

(David Hicks' birthday visitor is Oz's attorney general, Phillip Ruddock)
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MizunoMan
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 03:37 pm
msolga wrote:
MizunoMan wrote:
What's clear is that neither the Australian nor the US government is responsible for the plight Hicks finds himself in now.



More pearls from Piers, MizunoMan? :wink:


The other side of the story (there usually is one).

Quote:
Yep, Hicks' plight has nought to do with the Oz & US governments. And he's probably just as bad as that "notorious Sydney gang rapist Bilal Skaf", quoted in the article! (You're getting a wee bit desperate, Piers!)


I'm pleased you agree that Dawood has only himself to blame.

Quote:
MizunoMan, if you want to find more Anne Coulter-type Oz "journalists" who'll support your views it's easy enough to find them if you look. After a while Piers tends to get rather repetitive & predictable. His credibility is not exactly high here. Even Gerard Henderson (of the famed Sydney Institute) refers to his articles as "research-lite".


Seems to me his article is accurate. Is that what bothers you?
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 03:38 pm
Negligent or just ineffective
Lex Lasry
(Lex Lasry is a Queen's counsel)
January 10, 2007/the AGE


ON JANUARY 7, 2007, federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock mounted a defence of the Australian Government in the case of David Hicks. The defence, in The Sunday Age, fails. It fails as much for what it does not say as for what it does.

The credibility of the Australian Government is drained by the fact that it apparently never considered that the original military commission process might have been unfair. Hicks was left to the mercy of that process.

The primary point now made by the Attorney-General is that despite that oversight and assertions to the contrary, the Australian Government has not abandoned Hicks and, in fact, does care whether or not he gets a fair trial. Further, the Government is "deeply unhappy" about the time the process has taken. For more than three years this unhappiness has had absolutely no effect.

In a joint news release with Foreign Minister Alexander Downer just over three years ago, the same kind of assurances were given.


That official release said the Australian Government had "reached an understanding" in relation to the now discredited military commission process established by President George Bush in 2001, and struck down last year by the US Supreme Court in its judgement in Hamdan v Rumsfeld.

And the assurances about that discredited system? Does this sound familiar? According to Ruddock and Downer, the US had assured Australia it would not seek the death penalty in Hicks' case. As well, Australia and the US had agreed to work towards arrangements to transfer Hicks to Australia, if convicted, to serve any penal sentence in Australia in accordance with Australian and US law.

Of course, the hidden catch was that Hicks' pre-trial detention would not be counted as part of his sentence. .. <cont>
.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/negligent-or-just-ineffective/2007/01/09/1168104980192.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 03:41 pm
MizunoMan wrote:
Seems to me his article is accurate. Is that what bothers you?


No. You're entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe, no matter what you base your opinion on.
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MizunoMan
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 04:06 pm
Meanwhile, another "misguided adventurer" gone astray.

One of Dawood's buddies?
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jan, 2007 08:11 pm
So what's your point here?

I know as much about the circumstances of this particular case as has appeared in the Oz media. Which is not a lot at this stage.

What has this to do with the injustice of locking David Hicks up for 5 years without a trial?
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MizunoMan
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2007 03:16 pm
No worries. It appears he was only doing a little sightseeing and/or "wife-shopping".
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jan, 2007 03:39 am
Maybe he was? Who knows at this stage?
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