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@McTag,

Ah, that explains your admiration for Monbiot's support of Tony Blair as European President Smile

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Did you read that? It was very good.

On Sunday in The Observer, David Owen said that it is a crime to deliberately mislead a court, but Blair has so far got away with misleading Parliament and this country over the reasons for war.

Like contempt of court, contempt of Parliament should always be a disqualification for holding high office.

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@McTag,

I've met the man, and think him far too smart to get caught. Any European reactions - other than as noted by Walter in his thread >
http://able2know.org/topic/135791-3
> to the Afghanistan debacle, Iran impasse, Polish-Czech radars etc?

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Czech Republic President Vaclav Klaus signed the EU reform treaty, aka "Treaty of Lisbon" today after the country's Constitutional Court ruled that the treaty does not conflict with the country's constitution.
Klaus signed the treaty, despite maintaining his position that the court's decision was political and that the treaty interferes with Czech sovereignty.

The Czech Republic is the last EU member state to ratify the treaty.

Meanwhile, in the UK, "David Cameron will on Wednesday face down pressure from his Eurosceptic party to offer a referendum on European Union’s Lisbon treaty. The Tory leader will instead pledge to bring control of social and employment policy back to Westminster in his party’s general election manifesto." > UK Tories wary as Czechs sign treaty

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@Walter Hinteler,

The saga of the "EU constitution", lately re-branded as "Lisbon treaty" continues as opera bouffe:

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DID none of them read the Lisbon Treaty? By them, I mean the grand commentators now tut-tutting in the pages of various European newspapers about the complexity of the European Union's new institutional arrangements. Some of them appear genuinely stunned by the fact that Herman Van Rompuy, who took up office this week as standing President of the European Council, is going to have to share the limelight with José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, the prime minister of Spain....

http://www.economist.com/blogs/charlemagne/2010/01/europe_realises_that_lisbon_do

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@Mapleleaf,

However the EU is governed so shall it be for the US. The US is going to loose the constitution, what IS left of it and be put under EU rule.

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@High Seas,

High Seas wrote:

The saga of the "EU constitution", lately re-branded as "Lisbon treaty" continues as opera bouffe:

Thanks for your opinion.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter - kindly accept my abject apologies for thoughtless (though true) statement: I never knew you're the author of the opera bouffe in question Smile

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@High Seas,

Well, you aren't as well read as you think, High Seas: the Lisbon Treaty was initially known as the Reform Treaty and is the follower-up of the Treaty on European Union (aka Maastricht treaty.

The EU doesn't have a constitution and never had one - those calling it such are the writers of a libretto worse than any of Jacques Offenbach's operettas. Wink

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@Walter Hinteler,

But I like La Belle Hélène...

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@Francis,

I'm just thinking that the Queen of Sparta might have been involved in the Coupe Denmark ...

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@Walter Hinteler,

Yes, she was probably a poire..

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@Francis,

Nonsense - would YOU fight for 10 years just for the sake of a goddam fruit??! No, you and Walter are obviously mistaken if you never heard of the European Constitution aka Lisbon Treaty:
http://www.lexinter.net/UE/constitution_europeenne.htm

Quote:

CONSTITUTION EUROPEENNE
[ DROIT EUROPEEN ]

RECHERCHE

[ DROIT EUROPEEN ] [ TRAITE DE PARIS ] [ TRAITE INSTITUANT LA COMMUNAUTE EUROPEENNE ] [ ACTE UNIQUE EUROPEEN ] [ TRAITE DE MAASTRICHT ] [ TRAITE D'AMSTERDAM ] [ TRAITE DE NICE ] [ TRAITE DE LISBONNE ] [ CHARTE DES DROITS FONDAMENTAUX DE L'UNION EUROPEENNE ] [ CONSTITUTION EUROPEENNE ] [ DIRECTIVES ET REGLEMENTS ] [ CONVENTION EUROPEENNE DES DROITS DE L'HOMME ] [ CONVENTION DE BRUXELLES ] [ CONVENTION DE LUGANO ] [ CONVENTION DE ROME ] [ DOCUMENTS ] [ JURISPRUDENCE ]

[ Remonter ] [ PREAMBULE ] [ PARTIE I ] [ PARTIE II ] [ PARTIE III ] [ PARTIE IV ]

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@High Seas,

Yes, but it was a beautiful one...

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@Francis,

Not the original APPLE, you silly, just the PEAR that you just mentioned.

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@High Seas,

Tsk, tsk, HS!

Mixing apples and poires.

La poire belle Hélène est délicieuse..

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@High Seas,

Wrong, my dear: the 'forerunner' of the Lisbon Treaty was called TCE = Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe.

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@Francis,

Poire ou banana, kif-kif, le goût correspond à l'aspect ...

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@Walter Hinteler,

Tiens! Somebody should have explained your constitutional opinion to our good friend Jacques Chirac before he got into so much trouble:
http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/articles/064/article_35522.asp

Quote:

Le référendum n’est pas un plébiscite. N’en déplaise au général de Gaulle. A l’occasion du débat télévisé organisé avec 83 jeunes, trois animateurs pas politiques pour deux sous (Marc-Olivier Fogiel, Jean-Luc Delarue, Emmanuel Chain) et le journaliste Patrick Poivre d’Arvor, Jacques Chirac a tenté de convaincre les Français qu’il ne fallait pas réduire le référendum sur la Constitution européenne à un enjeu de politique intérieure. Et pour être limpide sur le sujet et couper court à toute supputation concernant ses intentions en cas de victoire du «non», il a précisé tout de suite qu’il ne démissionnerait pas. Revers ou pas revers, président il est (jusqu’en 2007), président il restera.

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@Francis,

What with all those ancient Greeks, Trojans, and their gods, it's hard to tell exactly what kind of fruit was involved in The Judgement of Paris - non, the last word in my post is NOT related to Jacques Chirac or to the EU constitution, as he called it (to the fury of Walter, but I can't help that!):

http://www.peterpaulrubens.org/The-Judgment-of-Paris-c.-1625.jpg

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