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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 14 Sep, 2006 11:31 pm
Meanwhile, in Sweden a new-look moderate party threatens the traditional Social Democrat dominance - according to a report in today's The Guardian:

Right tempts Swedes to change course

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 14 Sep, 2006 11:37 pm
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Christians see Jesus in a pint pot

David Ward
Friday September 15, 2006
The Guardian


They did not quite say "Cheers!" but churches, including those with a history of opposition to strong drink, yesterday took a relaxed attitude to a new advert featuring the face of Jesus picked out in the froth in an almost empty beer glass.
The advert carrying the question "where will you find him?", is designed to encourage church attendance this Christmas, and is the latest work of the Churches Advertising Network, an independent Christian group.

The message is subtle but simple - where is God in all the boozing at Christmas?" said the network's chairman, Francis Goodwin. "For many, Christmas is just drinking and partying and God is excluded, yet many young people are interested in finding deeper meaning and exploring faith."
The poster makes reference to the worldwide trend for finding holy images in everyday objects, from the face of Jesus in a frying pan and Christ on a fish finger, to the Virgin Mary on a toasted cheese sandwich and even Mother Teresa in a cinnamon bun.

A Church of England spokesman cautiously supported the Christian message in a pint pot. "Advertising like this will always upset someone, but maybe it will reach the people other efforts cannot reach."

Methodists are urged to total abstinence but are allowed a drink, provided the use of alcohol is responsible. "The vast majority of people enjoy a drink and will see a beer glass as part of their normal lives," said a Methodists' spokesman. "It seems reasonable to use that image to reach out to people ... the church needs to engage with the world as it is."

The network's previous posters have featured Christ as a Che Guevara lookalike and the Virgin Mary having a bad hair day. In 1999 a poster showed the Last Supper as a board meeting of multinational companies, with Judas representing Microsoft.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 15 Sep, 2006 01:02 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Meanwhile, in Sweden ...


The report about that in The Independent: A right-wing resurgence: The end of the Swedish dream?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 18 Sep, 2006 12:12 am
As to be expected (well, at least by some) the centre-right opposition wone in Sweden:

the four-party opposition alliance led by Fredrik Reinfeldt had 48.1 per cent of the votes, compared with 46.2 per cent for the Social Democrats and their two supporting parties.

Final official results were expected Wednesday, but were unlikely to change the outcome.

(The Social Democrats had only 35.3 per cent, which if confirmed would be the party's worst showing in parliamentary elections since 1914.
The Moderates got 26.1 per cent, a strong gain from 2002 when it won only 15 per cent of the vote.)

Report in The Independent: Sweden lurches to the right as era of Social Democratic rule ends

The vote-winning machine defeated by his arrogance
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nimh
 
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Mon 18 Sep, 2006 04:36 am
Oy Sad
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 18 Sep, 2006 06:47 am
nimh wrote:
Oy Sad


Indeed - surpring, especially, because I didn't think, Swedish voters would act really so. (A misjudgement, from last time's elections, I must admit.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 12:21 am
Interresting analysis in today's The Independent

The big question: Is Europe turning away from the social democrat model?
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Thomas
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 12:39 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
nimh wrote:
Oy Sad


Indeed - surpring, especially, because I didn't think, Swedish voters would act really so. (A misjudgement, from last time's elections, I must admit.)

But is it really such a big chabge? I haven't followed Sweden very closely; but from what I've heard, the originally Thatcherite Moderates won the election by reforming themselves into some happy medium inspired by Tony Blair. Meanwhile, the originally big-welfare-state Social Democrats held on to power by reforming themselves into some happy inspired by Tony Blair. The big difference of visions seem to be gone, and the parties mostly compete on who implements Blair policies the best.

But as I said, this isn't based on any thorough research on my part. Do I misremember it?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 12:43 am
No, not really, I think.

The big change might really be the colour and different logos of the now governing parties - plus a different focus on how to please voters.

However:

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The last, brief rightwing government in Sweden left heavy footprints. It cut the welfare state and damaged education by bringing in private schools, leaving a far more socially segregated system. The New Moderates may deliver more of a shock than voters were lulled into expecting. If so, many may regret the decadence of throwing out a good government just because they were bored.


From a comment in today's The Guardian


And The Guardian's leader explains The Stockholm syndrom
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 09:31 am
I think it would be an error to overlook the likelihood of growing dissatisfaction in Sweden with the sclerosis that always accompanies the big government, social welfare policies of social democrats. High, somewhat hidden levels of unemployment; the lack of economic flexibility and growth that accompanies regulated labor and capital markets; high levels of taxation and government employment; and competitive pressures from the global economy - all combine to create these stresses.

Certainly the Swedish model has been relatively more successful than others, and for a longer time. However, like others, it represents an egalitarian process for spending the wealth created under different, earlier conditions. The Swedes escaped the destruction of two world wars in the past century, and in the first half of the century practiced a fairly raw form of capitalism.

I believe the election result may prove to have been more significant than either Walter or Thomas indicate.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 09:42 am
georgeob1 wrote:

I believe the election result may prove to have been more significant than either Walter or Thomas indicate.


I not going to doubt that you might be correct.

I don'z have other sources for my opinion as what I can read ... or what was translated from Swedish to German by my Swedish relatives (and additionally their opinions).

georgeob1 wrote:
High, somewhat hidden levels of unemployment


Well, if you apply the same standards in the USA as did the new Swedish government for Sweden - any idea how many % you would be higher than officially? :wink:
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 11:35 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, if you apply the same standards in the USA as did the new Swedish government for Sweden - any idea how many % you would be higher than officially? :wink:


Nations use their unemployment data differently and base their statistics on different measurements. As long as the method of taking and using the data are self-consistent, there is no harm. One can find arguments when comparing the data of different nations. However I am not particularly interested in venturing into this distraction.

It is sufficient to note that the US system involves lesser and shorter duration unemployment and disability benefits, and greater flrexibility for employers to take on and eliminate employees. The U.S. focuses its statistical measurements on those actively seeking work. In Sweden there are greater and longer duration unemployment and disability benefits, and much greater disincentives for employers to take on additional employees in uncertain situations. The statistical data lfor unemployment leaves out large numbers of people reveiving long duration government benefits. Both systems involve levels of "hidden unemployment", but most economists estimate the levels in such European systems assomewhat greater than exists in the U.S.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 11:45 am
The "hidden levels of unemployment" in Sweden, as told before the election by the new coalition: 360,000 ill persons/day, 520,000 senior citizens on early pension, plus some hundred thousands* on holiday, in seminars, on vocational rehabilitation, on reserve exercise with the forces, ...

*my wife's cousins in Sweden didn't find the exact numbers anymore when I phoned them.
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nimh
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 05:00 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
I think it would be an error to overlook the likelihood of growing dissatisfaction in Sweden with the sclerosis that always accompanies the big government, social welfare policies of social democrats.

Hmm - a sense of proportion is always wise though. The "sclerosis" that you say always accompanies big government of the Swedish kind has relatively caused very little dissatisfaction over time at all. The Social democrats your refer to have won all but two elections in the last 40 years or so - a measure of continuous and consistent satisfaction with their policies that any other party in the West can only dream of. Apparently other political/economical systems cause growing dissatisfaction much more frequently and fiercely.
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 19 Sep, 2006 06:35 pm
I will readily agree that the Swedes have pursued this model for over 40 years now with an unusual degree of success, both in creating economic equality and in limiting the usual bad economic side effects. It is also true that, to a degree, this process in Sweden has involved the graDUAL dissipation of wealth built up in an earlier period. Noteworthy as well is the fact that Sweden was spared the economic price of the wars that infected Europe during the 20th century.

If you have another explanation for this very interesting (and moderate) political reversal, I woukld be very glad to learn about it.
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hamburger
 
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Wed 20 Sep, 2006 12:24 pm
as i recall , time magazine used to report the imminent downfall/disintegration of sweden about once or twice a year during the 1960's - when i still read time magazine regularly .
so far sweden isn't doing too badly , i understand .
read a book some years ago on the more recent history of sweden - since about 1900 . apparently sweden was one of the poorer european countries until the end of WW I , when somehow the swedish people and industry rallied and made sweden into a quite prosperous country - have to look for the book again at the library .
hbg
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nimh
 
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Thu 21 Sep, 2006 06:24 am
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Much of the Social Democrats' decline can be attributed to time, boredom and bad luck - especially the government's disastrous response to the Asian tsunami, in which many Swedes died. [..] The larger lesson is that when a government is tired and a fresh-sounding opposition does not look too threatening, there can be an opportunity for electoral change, as Mr Blair found in 1997 and Mr Cameron hopes to show in the future. Last time the Moderates were in power in the early 1990s their ideology was divisively Thatcherite. Mr Reinfeldt's makeover includes renaming his party the New Moderates, using a typeface employed in Ikea advertising and creating a relaxing pale-blue logo. Government will be the real test, but Sunday's result shows that voters, in Sweden and beyond, must be convinced that the word "new" really means what it says.

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nimh
 
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Thu 21 Sep, 2006 06:39 am
A useful Q & A overview:

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The big question: Is Europe turning away from the social democrat model?

The Independent
19 September 2006

Why are we asking?

Because Sweden's voters have thrown out their Social Democratic government after 12 years in office, striking a blow to one of the most successful political parties in Europe. Sunday's elections ended the 10-year premiership of Göran Persson and ushered in a new coalition of centre-right parties led by Fredrik Reinfeldt. The scale of Mr Reinfeldt's achievement should not be underestimated; the Social Democrats have been in power for all but nine years since 1932 and created a welfare state which is the envy of much of Europe.

Does Sweden matter?

With sluggish economic growth in France and Germany in recent years, EU policymakers have increasingly looked to the Nordic nations for inspiration. Under the Swedish social model voters pay some of the highest taxes in the world but get high-quality hospitals, schools and childcare. The government invests heavily in research and development to help innovation and boost economic growth.

On paper the results are impressive in Sweden; economic growth of more than 5 per cent, low inflation and enviable budget deficit figures. Consequently some recent studies have suggested that the rest of Europe should borrow from Nordic nations rather than adopt the (now discredited) Franco-German "Rhineland" model, or Britain's free-market approach.

So what went wrong?

The main issue in the election was unemployment. Officially joblessness in Sweden is a respectable 6 per cent. But rates among young people are thought to be at least three times that level. Newly qualified graduates struggle to get jobs despite having good qualifications.

Meanwhile the depth of the employment problem is hidden by the country's generous welfare system. No less than 16 per cent of public spending goes on sick pay, a staggering figure in a country whose population certainly appears as healthy as its neighbours.

Mr Reinfeldt claimed that one in five Swedes is not working if you count people on sickness leave or government training schemes. This is important because the basis of the Swedish model is the assumption that everyone works to fund the generous welfare benefits enjoyed by all. If joblessness is high that social contract comes under strain.

Is a dose of Thatcherism what Europeans want?

Not exactly. In the previous elections Mr Reinfeldt's party, known as the Moderates, proposed radical reforms and big tax cuts. As a result the Moderates won just 15 per cent of the vote. All that has been ditched in favour of tax cuts targeted at the lowest earners. The Swedish conservatives want a reduction in payroll taxes and a new working tax credit. Both ideas are designed to boost job creation. Unemployment benefit would be trimmed from 80 per cent of previous income to 65 per cent after 300 days. There is also plan to sell off some national assets. But it hardly constitutes a dose of hardline Thatcherism.

What lesson will European politicians draw?

Like David Cameron in Britain, Mr Reinfeldt decided that the only way to win was to move his party to the centre ground. In Sweden that means not challenging the basis of the welfare state but promising to run it better. If transported to a British political system most right-wing Swedes would find themselves comfortable inside the Labour Party. Indeed Mr Reinfeldt's biographer, Mats Wiklund, says Mr Reinfeldt's appeal to the man in the street in Sweden is that he would be "a better social democrat than the Social Democrats".

Though Mr Reinfeldt and David Cameron are political allies, the Swedish leader seems to have borrowed more from Tony Blair [..]. In his victory speech Mr Reinfeldt said: "We campaigned as the New Moderates, we won as the New Moderates and together with our alliance partners we will rule Sweden as the New Moderates." [..]

Is this the end of the Nordic social model?

No. Swedes value public services too much, and are used to an egalitarian society. Too many are employed by the public sector to allow any real dismemberment of it. Meanwhile other Nordic countries are committed to their own social models, often with very good results. Denmark, for example, has pioneered the idea of "flexicurity". This means workers paying high taxes and accepting the fact that they can be laid off abruptly by employers. The quid pro quo is generous unemployment benefit and help in retraining. That means they can be pretty sure that they will get another job soon. Overall the Nordic economies are performing well and delivering a good standard of living.

And a crippling blow to the left in Europe?

Sweden's vote is a jolt to the parties of the left. They felt the tide was turning in their favour in the mid-1990s after the Swedish Social Democrats' victory of 1994 was followed up by a second presidential victory for the Democrats in the US, a landslide for Tony Blair in Britain and the election of Gerhard Schröder as Germany's Chancellor and Lionel Jospin as France's Prime Minister. Encouraged by the trend, Mr Blair masterminded a series of "third way" summits for progressive European left-wingers.

During this decade the picture across the continent has been more mixed. Spain and Italy have moved to the left, but Germany and Poland have shifted to the right. The most striking aspect of recent contests is that the voters seem almost split down the middle in most countries. [..]

Has the Nordic way come to the end of its road?

Yes...

  • The Social Democrats who pioneered the Swedish social model recorded their worst vote since 1914

  • The system covers up unemployment by putting people on sickness benefits and training schemes

  • Globalisation means countries cannot insulate themselves from market forces
No...

  • The centre-right winner of the Swedish elections will only fine-tune the welfare state, not dismantle it

  • Economic growth and living standards in Nordic nations remain well above that in most European countries

  • The welfare state remains very popular in countries such as Denmark and Sweden
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 21 Sep, 2006 06:55 am
nimh wrote:
A useful Q & A overview:



Posted the link to that two days ago, one page back :wink:
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nimh
 
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Thu 21 Sep, 2006 10:33 am
sorry, missed that.
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