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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
hamburger
 
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Thu 13 Jul, 2006 02:42 pm
i had wanted to include this link with my previous posting ...DATA MASSAGE... .
i think it explains better than i can the difficulties of interpreting statistical data .
hbg
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nimh
 
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Thu 13 Jul, 2006 02:52 pm
Amigo wrote:
Well I suppose that explains them not taking any action.

Laughing
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hamburger
 
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Thu 13 Jul, 2006 05:01 pm
bernardr wrote :
"any Unemployment Number reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics BELOW 5% is considered to be equivalent to full employment".

someone might do well to explain that to the unemployed - and particularly those no longer receiving benefits and being dropped from the dataabase - ; i'm sure they'll appreciate the good news .
hbg
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nimh
 
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Sun 16 Jul, 2006 03:29 pm
Another take on Slovakia's new government, and the consequences for the EU:

Quote:
Slovakia sets extremist challenge for Europe

Robin Shepherd
The Financial Times
July 7, 2006


(My) short version:

Quote:
The EU was presented with another serious challenge to its ability to contain hardline nationalism with the inclusion in the government of Slovakia of a party with rabidly xenophobic views.

The fact that far-rightists have been brought into power by Social Democrats is but one of several alarming precedents that have been set by these events, which come on the heels of the formation of a new government in Poland that includes the nationalist and homophobic League of Polish Families.

The Slovak National party, apart from its sympathies with the second world war clerico-fascist government of Father Jozef Tiso, is unremittingly hostile to Slovakia's sizeable Roma and Hungarian minorities.

Among many inflammatory remarks, its leader once said that the best solution for the Roma was a "small courtyard and a long whip". He has also described Tiso as one of the greatest sons of the Slovak nation.

Set in the context of recent events, the concern now is that we are seeing the start of a trend in which each success for an extremist party in one country emboldens and helps legitimise extremist parties in others.

During the election campaign in Slovakia, leading figures in the Slovak National Party successfully countered charges that their presence would be unacceptable abroad by pointing out that Brussels had been forced into a humiliating climb-down in its attempt to isolate Austria in 2000 and had done nothing significant in Poland.

All of this presents a mighty challenge to the EU's claims to "soft-power" influence and to be a club whose membership is defined by adherence to a set of core values. Chauvinists are hardly going to take seriously the message that racism is unacceptable when they switch on their TV sets and see extremists being wined, dined and otherwise legitimised by political leaders across Europe.

That problem is compounded in the new member states which, as of January 2007, will become eligible for almost Euros 170bn in structural fund aid. This promises to be a political bonanza for coalitions across the region who will inevitably claim the credit for the resulting increased living standards and improved infrastructure.

Brussels will thus find itself in the monstrous predicament of providing a de-facto subsidy for the future political popularity of the Slovak National Party which, to make matters worse, has been given the key ministry responsible for distributing EU funds.

Outlining the nature of the problem is admittedly easier than suggesting a solution. These governments are being formed following free and fair elections. But membership of the union is not compulsory and subsidies from European taxpayers are not a God-given right. If the EU is serious about this problem, perhaps extremists and the people who form governments with them should be made aware of precisely what that last sentence means.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:58 am
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Europe's muted voice

Leader
Tuesday July 18, 2006
The Guardian


Europe's voice has once again been muted and ineffective in responding to an international crisis. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, flew smartly to Beirut as Israel's offensive in Lebanon escalated at the weekend. While he was there the G8 summit in St Petersburg - with the leaders of Britain, France, Italy and Germany among the participants - failed to call explicitly for an immediate ceasefire, as Kofi Annan wanted, demanding only that Israel exercise "restraint". EU foreign ministers did a bit better yesterday: they were right to call clearly on both Hizbullah and Israel to cease their attacks, but wrong to deliberately avoid using the unambiguous word ceasefire.

Diplomatic communiques can seem irrelevant and long-winded when rockets are flying and innocents dying. But if words are the currency of international relations, their meanings and implications matter. Not calling clearly for a truce at once could suggest complicity with what Israel is doing and the US is tacitly backing: using overwhelming force to defeat or cripple Hizbullah, whatever the consequences for Lebanon or the region. Given the humanitarian risks involved - with attacks on Beirut and Haifa and children buried under rubble - and a new generation of "martyrs" being bred, this is folly.

Israel always fights its wars against the clock, rushing to achieve its objectives before pressure for a ceasefire becomes irresistible: Israeli military officials suggested yesterday they needed 72 hours more fighting. Madeleine Albright, the former US secretary of state, was not alone in wondering why the current incumbent, Condi Rice, had not already dashed to the Middle East. The likely answer is a spurious realpolitik that assumes military means alone can end this conflict. That may even be the position of Saudi Arabia's Sunni rulers, worried about Iran's reckless sponsorship of the Shia Hizbullah to serve its own regional goals.

Europe's position - with Britain and Germany lined up against France and several smaller EU countries - matters because it aspires to play a role on the world stage, because the Middle East is its own backyard and because the area's quarrels can explode on our streets and trains. It matters too because the Iraq war has badly weakened the influence of the US in the region. If a robust multinational security force is now to be sent to south Lebanon, European citizens will surely expect their governments to play a full role in it. For the moment, they will want to know that the EU is not just watching helplessly and letting the US dictate vital decisions as fateful, bloody and epoch-making events unfold.
Source
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nimh
 
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Fri 21 Jul, 2006 01:55 pm
Croatia's HDZ is back to its old tricks.

The party which, under Franjo Tudjman, ruled Croatia in authoritarian fashion during the years of the Yugoslav wars, was assumed to have transformed into a West-European style conservative/christian-democratic entity. It spent a few years in the political wilderness after Tudjman's death in '99, when the Croatians, sick of the nationalists' corrupt politics, subsequently voted centre-left democratic reformers in, instead. But under its new leader Ivo Sanader, the HDZ reformed and returned to government in 2003, gaining international praise for its conversion to democratic values.

Recently, however, they've been sliding back, and entering pretty shameless territory:



[My] summary:
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The Croatian government named a veterinarian, a recent law school graduate and a political public relations executive to the committee that is responsible for maintaining the HINA news agency's independence. Croatian journalist organisations accuse the government of selecting unsuitable candidates and fear that the new board is made up of political appointees who will be instructed to select government-friendly editors. The appointment of Vladimir Lulic as the representative of the HINA staff was blocked by the government.

It is feared that the government will again select government-friendly appointees when it names the new governing council for Croatia's Public Broadcaster HRT later this year. Last December, HRT came under furious attack during the parliamentary debate on the broadcasters' annual report, and last October, the presenter of the "Otvoreno" show was removed for conducting a debate on the role of the Croatian army during the Bosnian conflict, after sustained criticism by governing HDZ politicians.
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nimh
 
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Fri 21 Jul, 2006 02:47 pm
Kosovo's unavoidable eventual independence might just trigger international recognition for a couple of new states further east too..

Quote:
UNSC set to break Kosovo status quo

With talks between Belgrade and Pristina over Kosovo's final status set to fail, the UNSC is ready to make the decision itself by the year's end, a diplomat says.

By Ekrem Krasniqi in Brussels for ISN Security Watch (20/07/06)

If Kosovo's ethnic Albanian leaders and the authorities in Belgrade fail to reach an agreement over the status of Serbia's UN-administered province of Kosovo by the end of the year, the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) will make the decision on its own, [said] an EU diplomat. And Kosovo's independence looks like a done deal, especially with Russia seemingly on board at the UNSC, though not without its own game plan. [..]

UN special envoy for Kosovo talks, former Finnish president Martti Ahtisaari, is trying to organize the first high-level meeting between Kosovo and Serb leaders in Vienna on 24 July. [..] Since the beginning of the year, negotiations on decentralization (the creation of more municipalities for the Serbian minority and the shift of power from the central government to municipal authorities), the economy (the privatization of Kosovo's enterprises, property rights, citizens savings, pensions, etc) and culture (ensuring the cultural heritage and religious sites of Serbs) failed to bring about any significant results. [..]

What is most likely to happen is that the Vienna meeting will serve only as a confirmation of the failed status talks, which will allow the "Kosovo File" to be sent directly to the UNSC to decide on how best to end the status quo.

The US and Britain are pushing for the independence [..]. Washington says the Kosovo status chapter must be closed as soon as possible, as the status quo can no longer be maintained [..].

Implications for Belgrade

But [any move now] comes at a time when [Serbian] radicals are leading the polls with a 40 percent popularity rating. Declaring an independent Kosovo would certainly give radicals a further boost and could be the downfall of the current government.

The Serbian leadership is hoping to convince the UNSC to delay its decision by a few months, at least until after elections, which are tentatively planned for the end of this year.

Serbian President Tadic, a moderate who on several occasions has acknowledged that Kosovo was moving toward independence, said after meeting with top EU officials Tuesday in Brussels that he would prefer extraordinary elections in Serbia before Kosovo's status was decided. [..]

The question of Russia

[..] Russia, on the other hand, would use Kosovo independence to win the backing of Western governments for independence for Georgia's breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and Moldova's breakaway region of Transdneistria.

Russian authorities have been quite vocal about the precedent Kosovo's independence could set.

At least for now, Britain and the US have maintained that a comparison cannot be drawn between Kosovo and Georgia and Moldova, but that could change as Kosovo's independence would require Russia's vote on the UNSC - a vote it is not likely to give without some assurance of a similar deal for South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transdneistria. [..]

Russia's apparent readiness to accept Kosovo's independence in light of the precedent it would set represents a marked change in Moscow's position. Earlier, Russia had rejected the idea of independence for Kosovo as it feared it would strengthen the case for the independence of its Northern Caucasus republic of Chechnya. [..]

Observers [..] believe that with Russia on board - though it is not clear if Moscow's demands will be met - Kosovo independence is a done deal. [..]

Since Moscow's change in position, the Serbian leadership has been lobbying other Contact Group members, including China, to vote against Kosovo independence. But so far, those lobbying efforts seem to have made little headway.

Regional implications

Since Montenegro's declaration of independence from the state union with Serbia in May, Bosnian Serbs have stepped up their calls for a similar right to self-determination - a call that has been categorically rejected by Western officials. [..]

The Serbian government has repeatedly warned that a declaration of independence for Kosovo could threaten regional stability in the western Balkans. But EU and US officials have remained adamant that whatever the solution for Kosovo, the borders of Bosnia and Herzegovina cannot be changed.

Some also have warned of potential consequences for Serbia's internal borders, with Serbs in northern Kosovo threatening partition, which could in turn provoke the ethnic Albanian majority in the south of Serbia (Presevo Valley) to seek to join a newly independent Kosovo. Others warn that it could also incite new tensions in Macedonia [..].

EU boosts Kosovo independence hopes

On Monday, Kosovo's independence was boosted further when EU officials released a report to member states' foreign ministers signaled the bloc would begin to treat Kosovo as an independent state.

The report says Kosovo is to move toward the EU as an independent country from Serbia by building bilateral relations as Brussels does with other aspiring countries of the western Balkans region.

The EU's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, and Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn said the 25-nation bloc expected Kosovo authorities to work hard on meeting the criteria set for accession. They also said Brussels should be ready to grant to Kosovo all contractual relations for this purpose. [..]

Ekrem Krasniqi is ISN Security Watch's senior correspondent at the EU, UN, and NATO in Brussels, where he has been based since 1992. Has has worked for the Kosovo weekly magazine Zeri and the daily Zëri i Ditës. Krasniqi is the founder of DTT-NET.COM press agency and serves as the outlet's editor-in-chief.
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BernardR
 
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Wed 26 Jul, 2006 02:18 am
Well.Hamburger, If you didn't take Economics in School you would not know that full employment is generally defined as any figure below 5% since there are always about that many people who are shifting from one job to another. The US Unemployment at this time is 4.6%. If one excludes young people below 18, the Unemployment rate is a staggeringly low 4.1%. If you read the financial pages, you would find some prognosticators predicting a higher rate of inflation since employers will have to raise wages to attact an increasingly small number of unemployed.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 26 Jul, 2006 05:07 am
Today, figures differ between 2% and 6.4%, depending on what you read.

At the time hamburger was at school, this most certainly was different as well.
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hamburger
 
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Wed 26 Jul, 2006 06:43 pm
bernard wrote :
"Well.Hamburger, If you didn't take Economics in School you would not know that full employment is generally defined as any figure below 5% since there are always about that many people who are shifting from one job to another. The US Unemployment at this time is 4.6%. If one excludes young people below 18, the Unemployment rate is a staggeringly low 4.1%. If you read the financial pages, you would find some prognosticators predicting a higher rate of inflation since employers will have to raise wages to attact an increasingly small number of unemployed."


bernard , here is my reply (from my earlier entry on 'data massage') :
"Statisticians like to say that if you torture the data long enough it'll confess, which is a cute way of saying that you can prove almost anything if you play with the numbers."

since you took economics you are no doubt familiar with that concept.

hbg
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BernardR
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 02:32 am
Hamburger- Do you know what the BLS is? It is the Bureau of Labor Statistics. If you think that their figures are bogus, then there is no hope for you and no reason to discuss the matter with you. If on the other hand, you are merely ignorant of the truth, please go to the BLS site.

www.bls.gov

There you will find that the Unemployment rate for the month of June in the USA was 4.6%

Do you have other statistics? If so, please provide.

I am also astonished at the wide range provided in Mr. Walter Hinteler's last post. Since he provides no source or/ and no explanation, I cannot fathom just what he is talking about>
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Thomas
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 03:39 am
hamburger wrote:
bernard , here is my reply (from my earlier entry on 'data massage') :"Statisticians like to say that if you torture the data long enough it'll confess, which is a cute way of saying that you can prove almost anything if you play with the numbers."

since you took economics you are no doubt familiar with that oncept.

I can sympathize if Bernard's style aggravates you somewhat, but it's not just propaganda to say America is currently at full employment. Even in a world of full employment, people change jobs, and they often spend some time between leaving their last job and starting at the next. I don't know how long Americans typically spend within and between jobs. But if their average time in a job is four years, and the average time between jobs is two months, you would end up with an unemployment rate of 4%. The actual unemployment rate in America is 4.6% as of June 2006, the latest month for which we have data. While one can always quibble about where to draw the line, it's not unreasonable to call this percentage `full employment'.
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nimh
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 06:31 am
Thomas wrote:
it's not just propaganda to say America is currently at full employment. Even in a world of full employment, people change jobs, and they often spend some time between leaving their last job and starting at the next. I don't know how long Americans typically spend within and between jobs. But if their average time in a job is four years, and the average time between jobs is two months, you would end up with an unemployment rate of 4%. The actual unemployment rate in America is 4.6% as of June 2006, the latest month for which we have data. While one can always quibble about where to draw the line, it's not unreasonable to call this percentage `full employment'.

In that case The Netherlands is currently also close to full employment - the very last data have the rate at 5,5%.

And thats including the long-term unemployed, who, unlike in the US, are not taken off the rolls after a set number of months.
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Thomas
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 06:37 am
nimh wrote:
And thats including the long-term unemployed, who, unlike in the US, are not taken off the rolls after a set number of months.

Indeed you do. Good for you!
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nimh
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 07:13 am
Mind you, it was better still in the late 90s ... when, coincidentally, Labour was still in government ;-)
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Thomas
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 07:16 am
as you so aptly observe: "coincidentally". Wink
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nimh
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 08:04 am
Hey, it was our Labour MP Wim Kok (even if he wasnt my hero) who pioneered the "poldermodel" that your German experts came desperately studying, to find out what the key to success was..
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Thomas
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 08:49 am
And you think this keeps me from making snide comments about the Dutch? That said, I'd trade your Social Democrats for ours anytime. They did do a good job for Holland.
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hamburger
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 02:37 pm
thomas :
i really wanted to make just one point re bernard's u.s. unemployment figure :
i have no quibble with his 4.6 % ; where i disagree is when he tries to compare it to the numbers of other countries .
imo it doesn't wash because they use different base figures - hence my reference to 'data massage' (of which i have done plenty over the years , even while working in germany and more after coming to canada Laughing )
of course , he is free to state and believe what he wants .
there are plenty of references to be found on the internet that explain the differences , even wiki does a fair job of it .
have a good one , eh !
hummel , hummel ... Very Happy
hbg
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BernardR
 
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Thu 27 Jul, 2006 11:34 pm
Hamburger---Your point is somewhat relevant but you really must look at the site I gave you--www.bls.gov.

You will find all sorts of goodies there including the Gross National Product which clearly shows that the USA is far ahead of ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD (except Luxembourg) in GDP. This is because when the USA has all but 4.6% of the population working, the output is enormous. Indeed, despite the "despised" tax cuts presented by George W., Bush, the incredible has happened--THE REVENUE TO THE GOVERNMENT HAS INCREASED RATHER THAN DECREASED.

This has happened because when the entreprenuers in the USA have extra monies left over which are not used by politicians to distribute to the lazy and unproductive, these entreprenuers open new businesses and make more jobs available. This creates more tax revenue to the Treasury that more than makes up for the revenue lost when the tax cuts went into place.

I am at a loss to understand why people like Mr. Nimh continue to criticized the USA while touting the moth eaten countries of the Netherlands and Hungary, with which he is associated.

The Netherlands, according to my sources, has a GDP of only $29,500 and the lice ridden Hungarians( the Socialists there concentrate on five year plans but not on bed bug repellent) havew a GDP of only $14,900.


I can only assume that anyone touting these countries while simultaneously criticizing the USA IN LIGHT OF THE GDP FIGURES, must be consumed by the unfortunate vice called ENVY!!!
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