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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 12:27 am
Quote:
Austria aims to revive EU constitution

By Stephen Castle in Vienna
Published: 09 January 2006

Austria has pledged to help bring Europe's constitution out of cold storage as its EU presidency started amid calls to salvage key elements of the treaty.

With no sign of agreement among EU member states on how to proceed, Ursula Plassnik, the Austrian Foreign minister, yesterday promised new consultations before decisions in June on what to do next.

Ms Plassnik called for a "new step in the debate on the future of Europe" under the "constitution process which has slowed down and which is now covered in a blanket of snow, waiting for Spring". She added: "What we need is climate change." But divisions in Europe's capitals on the constitution are mirrored by strains within the Austrian government. While Ms Plassnik called for wide-ranging consultation and refused to spell out any favoured solution, Hubert Gorbach, the Austrian Vice-Chancellor, suggested redrafting the text "from the beginning" with new emphasis on the powers of member states.

He said that after "two very strong 'no' votes, for us to re-edit in places then force a 'yes' vote would be illusory". Mr Gorbach, who comes from the BZO (Alliance for the Future of Austria) Party, which is the successor to the far-right grouping of Jörg Haider, added: "It has many good ideas enshrined in it and we must not forget these ideas but we need to have a strong foundation." Many believe that no decisions can be taken until after France's presidential elections in 2007. That leaves Austria with the unenviable job of securing agreement on the way forward.

Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, has floated the idea reviving the constitution with a new annex on social values designed to reassure French voters.

Others favour a declaration emphasising national sovereignty. And integrationists have called for a hard core of nations to press ahead via the group of 12 countries that are signed up to the euro.

The constitution, signed by EU government chiefs in October last year, would create the posts of president and foreign minister for the EU Council (where member states meet), enhance the powers of the European Parliament, revamp the voting system, streamline the legislative process and add a human rights charter.

So far the document has been ratified by 13 countries with positive referendum votes in Spain and Luxembourg. But to come into force all 25 member states need to approve the treaty, and there is no prospect of the same document being put before voters in France and the Netherlands again. Some nations want to press ahead with ratification, but there is growing support for the idea of "cherry picking" elements and drawing up a less ambitious, new, treaty.

Key figures have begun debating the future. In an interview in E!Sharp magazine, Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, argues that "some elements" of the constitution could be agreed by the member states - but did not discuss the post of EU foreign minister for which he was nominated. He said: "I can tell you that the sooner the elements that are contained in the constitution relating to the decision-making structure are put in place, the better for the EU. Time is important."

Nicholas Sarkozy, the French Interior minister and a likely presidential candidate, argued in a recent pamphlet for more co-operation among the EU's six biggest nations.

He added that the treaty contains "important advances which improve the functioning of Europe, and would move towards a political Union", including the creation of new EU president and Minister of Foreign Affairs. He added: "Our objective must be to implement these advances, whilst respecting the democratic vote of the French people. One way or another, we must give Europe the procedures that will enable it to make decisions in a quick and effective manner." Salvaging elements of the treaty is fraught with difficulties however.

Several countries would find it hard to agree on innovations such as the creation of an EU foreign minister without a referendum.

Some diplomats think that crucial issues may be put off until 2008-9 to coincide with a review of EU spending. Rules on the size of the European Commission need to be revised before Croatia joins the EU, probably in 2009, and that would provide a pretext for a smallscale re-writing of the EU's rulebook.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 02:05 am
"Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, has floated the idea reviving the constitution with a new annex on social values designed to reassure French voters."........

" He added: "Our objective must be to implement these advances, whilst respecting the democratic vote of the French people."........

Interesting to note that there seems to be no mention of redesigning the constitution to take into consideration the views of the DUTCH people, who also threw it out, if my memory is correct.

Maybe the entire EU should be given the chance to vote on it, so we can ALL have our "democratic vote" taken into consideration, and special clauses added, where it is deemed necessary.......not just the French.
They are just plain lucky to have had a vote at all.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 06:11 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:

Maybe the entire EU should be given the chance to vote on it, so we can ALL have our "democratic vote" taken into consideration,...


I can only speak for Germany where - as ít was said - the constitution has to changed for doing such.

I doubt that such will happen.

I doubt even more that we will get a federal law regulating the plebiscites - lawmen don't want to loose their jobs/influence/power.

I even more doubt that such could work - it doesn't on state level, why should with on the six times larger population in the whole country?

But I may be wrong, of course.
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nimh
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 08:50 am
Evidence Allegedly Found of Secret CIA Prisons in Europe
2006/01/09 · Deutsche Welle

Summarised:

Swiss intelligence services are allegedly in possession of proof that the US has detained terror suspects in secret prisons in various European countries.

The Swiss newspaper SonntagsBlick said the Swiss secret services obtained a copy of a fax sent by the Egyptian foreign ministry to its embassy in London, which revealed that the Egyptian embassy in London "learned from its own sources that 23 Iraqi and Afghan citizens had been questioned at the Mikhail Kogalniceanu base in the town of Constanza."

The newspaper quoted a Swiss defense ministry report which said Egypt believed there were "similar centers in Ukraine, Kosovo, Macedonia and Bulgaria."

A senior officer at the Kogalniceanu base categorically denied the report. ABC reported in December that the US had held members of al Qaeda in Poland but that they were evacuated to North Africa shortly before Condoleezza Rice toured Europe that month.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 09:40 am
The message was picked up by the secret service's Onyx satellite listening system on November 10, just three days after the Council of Europe launched its investigation into allegations that the CIA was running secret interrogation centres in Europe.


The copy of the message the Swiss Secret Service got

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5448/schweizerciageheimfaxgross5ti.jpg

Big trouble now in Switzerland (especially questions how this fax, including the shorthand symbol from an officer, could become public).
Swiss defence minister Samuel Schmid has ordered an inquiry, the relevant prosecution office had started investigations.
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nimh
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 10:48 am
More on those cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed in that Danish newspaper, and all the ado thats followed (pretty much the only story from Denmark that seems to reach the international news pages):

Cartoons ignite cultural combat in Denmark
2006/01/01 · International Herald Tribune

(My) summary:

Quote:
When the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad - including one in which he wears a turban shaped as a bomb - it expected a strong reaction. But it was unprepared for the global furor that spurred demonstrations in Kashmir and condemnation from 11 Muslim countries. The cartoons spawned a national debate over whether Denmark's famously liberal freedom of speech laws have gone too far, as many in the Muslim community say they reflect an intensifying anti-immigrant climate that is radicalizing young Muslims. Police in October arrested seven Muslim men aged 20 or under in connection with an alleged terrorism plot.

The (otherwise run-of-the-mill) article shows that stupidity is an equal opportunity gift. Commenting on the cartoons, an imam grotesquely laments that "We are being mentally tortured." A retired priest and now far-right politician intones, "Muslim immigration is a way for Muslims to conquer us, just as they have done for the past 1,400 years" - don't tell me you don't remember those 1400 years in which Muslims have tried to conquer Denmark.

Still, a real enough dilemma is sketched out when the report goes into the activities of Hizb-ut-Tahrir (known here from Steve's posts), which is banned in Germany but free to operate in Denmark and the UK:

Quote:
Terrorism experts say the group has played a major role in the radicalization of disaffected Muslim youth. But because its main weapon is ideology rather than explosives, Danish officials say, it is allowed to operate under the same permissive rules that allowed the publication of the cartoons.

Under Danish law, inciting someone to commit an act of terror is illegal, but spouting vitriol against the West or satirizing Muhammad is not. The State Prosecutor's Office investigated the group in the spring of 2004 and decided not to ban it since it was not breaking the law.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 9 Jan, 2006 11:06 am
nimh wrote:
...pretty much the only story from Denmark that seems to reach the international news pages


he, he!

Some examples from the last days:

Today:
Plastics & Rubber Weekly: Industry blasts Denmark over flame retardant plan

Viet Nam News Agency: Denmark's play attracts northern audiences

Yesterday:
The Oakland Tribune et. al. (from the NYT: Denmark unlikely front in Islam-West culture war

:wink:


And last week an article related to this thread, from Environment News Service (ENS):

Denmark to Sue EU Over Flame Retardant Linked to Birth Defects
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 13 Jan, 2006 01:57 am
Due to the "Swiss affair" (see nimh's post above and here), Romania might get some (more) difficulties to become an EU-member - they've got time until February 2 to give some statements especially about those secret CIA-prisons.
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nimh
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 12:28 pm
Below, an old story that I only now get round to posting. Disturbing enough, though they do seem to have a reasonably good grip on it. Mostly, I'm also posting it because, well - read the story about Bouchar - how much more James Bond can the news get?!

Terrorist Cells Find Foothold in Balkans

Since it's a long story, I'll do a summary again:

Quote:
Terrorist Cells Find Foothold in Balkans

Police found a cache of explosives, arms and a videotape pledging vengeance for the "brothers" killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in an apartment in Sarajevo. It was occupied by an underground group that wanted to blow up the British Embassy, intelligence officials said.

Four men were detained, including Mirsad Bektasevic, a Swedish citizen of Bosnian origin who also ran a Web site for Abu Musab Zarqawi and kept in touch with at least three men in Britain who were arrested in November by British police.

The bust confirmed suspicions that Bosnia, and the Balkans in general, are becoming a launching pad for terrorist activities. Islamic radicals are said to be creating cells of so-called white al Qaeda, non-Arab members who can evade racial profiling.

Parts of the Balkans, long a freeway for smugglers of cigarettes, drugs, weapons and prostitutes, are ripe recruitment territory. "All the conditions are present. Embittered Muslims, arms, corruption - everything underground operators need to get established," said an intelligence official.

Last summer, Italian and Croatian police arrested five people who allegedly plotted to bomb the funeral of Pope John Paul II. And Serbian police accidentally came across a key suspect in the 2004 Madrid bombings, Abdelmajid Bouchar, while he was traveling through the country by train.

Bouchar had escaped when police sealed off a Madrid apartment where suspects were hiding. Seven men died then, when they detonated explosives, but Bouchar was taking out garbage. He traveled to Brussels, moved on and spent time in Austrian and Hungarian jails, but was freed.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, the CIA and other foreign agencies set up a joint, fortified headquarters to keep tabs on terrorism suspects in Bosnia. The spy teams operate separately from the chief international overseers of Bosnia, according to the official.
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 01:21 pm
And what do you suppose is the cause of the discontent and susceptability to radicalism on the part of the Moslem population in Bosnia and the Balkans?

Clearly it is the U.S.intervention in Iraq that has caused this. Without that the Balkans would return to the happy state of harmony that has existed there for centuries.

The millenium of conflict between European powers and the Moslem Empire had nothing to do with it. The unprovoked attack on the Ottoman Empire by Britain and France in 1914 had nothing to do with it. The betrayal of assurances given to the Turks in 1918 at the hands of Clemenceau and Lloyd George at Versailes had nothing to do with it. The forcible elimination of the Moslem Caliphate by the British and the colonization of most of the territory of the former Ottoman Empire by the British and the French had nothing to do with it. The colonial misrule of about 75% of the Moslem population of the world at the hands of the British, French and Dutch - a system of oppression and exploitation that ended only five or six decades ago surely had nothing to do with it. Rekindling an almost dead Zionist movement by carrying out (or passively accepting) an organized attempt to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe had nothing to do with it. And certainly in the Balkans the indifference of Europeans to the slaughter of Moslem Bosnians at the hands of Serbian practicioners of 'ethnic cleansing'had nothing at all to do with it.

There's no doubt about it: the United States and George Bush caused it all. The major states of Western Europe have managed to wipe the historical slate cllean, absolving themselves of all previous misdeeds (some very recent). Now with their ageing and declining populations they can sit in comfortable judgement of those attempting to cope with the disorderly world they created.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 01:38 pm
Like a cup of chamomile tea, George?
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 01:49 pm
Thank you for the offer Walter, but I'm drinking some fairly strong coffee right now. Smile

It is a beautiful morning here (rains have finally stopped), and I'm going for a hike in the Marin headlands just north of the Golden Gate. (No Europeans there !)
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Francis
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 02:09 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
... I'm drinking some fairly strong coffee right now. Smile


From my recent experience you must have some secret...
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nimh
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 02:55 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Thank you for the offer Walter, but I'm drinking some fairly strong coffee right now. Smile

Well, that would explain that then ...

(where on earth did that come from? nothing in the actual post, for sure!)
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JustWonders
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 03:57 pm
nimh wrote:
georgeob1 wrote:
Thank you for the offer Walter, but I'm drinking some fairly strong coffee right now. Smile

Well, that would explain that then ...

(where on earth did that come from? nothing in the actual post, for sure!)


Ahhhhhh. I think I know.

Georgeob1 may have read a similar article (I saw it a couple of weeks ago) with a similar title. When I saw your post, I thought you were just being...sensitive (lol)...in your "summarizing".

The article I read said in part:

Quote:
"Iraq is creating a new generation of jihadis looking for places to live in Europe," Johnson said, "and they have this festering resentment that is usually at the core of terrorism. They will take up residence with existing communities or form new ones in Europe."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/3549171.html


So, when I saw your posting (without clicking on the link), I almost typed something snarky, too LOL. Embarrassed

(Milder, though...like, "I am so tired of this unsubstantiated baloney"....since my coffee wasn't all that strong LOL)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 04:10 pm
Although some of the above named countries are non EU-countries (neither applicant countries):
the "new" European border is formed of 6.000 km of land borders and 85.000 km of coastlines! It thus provides easy access for all kind of illegal migrants, drug smugglers and terrorists.
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nimh
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 04:35 pm
JustWonders wrote:
nimh wrote:
Well, that would explain that then ...

(where on earth did that come from? nothing in the actual post, for sure!)

Ahhhhhh. I think I know.

Georgeob1 may have read a similar article (I saw it a couple of weeks ago) with a similar title. When I saw your post, I thought you were just being...sensitive (lol)...in your "summarizing".

The article I read said in part:

Quote:
"Iraq is creating a new generation of jihadis looking for places to live in Europe," Johnson said, "and they have this festering resentment that is usually at the core of terrorism. They will take up residence with existing communities or form new ones in Europe."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/3549171.html

OK, a case of mistaken identity, then.

Thats OK, not the first time that my identities were mistaken ...

So from the quotation marks I gather you dont much trust my "summaries", eh..? :wink:

I hafta make them for my work ... well, actually, I have to whittle the summary a lot more down still than that, but this was the first attempt...
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JustWonders
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 05:06 pm
nimh wrote:
So from the quotation marks I gather you dont much trust my "summaries", eh..? :wink:


LOL. I think it's more a case that I overuse punctuation ('tis my only flaw, of course).

(Parentheses, especially)

(I'm almost sure I overuse parentheses)

(Wouldn't you agree?)
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 15 Jan, 2006 06:47 pm
It is the time here for winter rains, and the last several days have delivered their fill of it. Today the sun broke through and the clear fresh air blowing off the Pacific made for a truly wonderful day, I just returned from a most refreshing walk over the hills north of the Golden Gate, on the so-called Dipsea trail. The long grass was still wet, but the trail otherwise passable, and the experience refreshing and invigorating. ( I saw no Europeans on the walk, but I'm sure that if I had encountered one. I would have been very nice.)

There's an old German-American club on the Pacific side of the trail, in the woods above Stinson Beach, -- a great stop for a welcome glass of beer. I feel very relaxed and refreshed.

Could it be that some of you feel that my reaction to the reports of Moslem radicalism in the Balkans was a bit intemperate? ... perhaps even something you've heard from me before? An overdose of strong coffee? ... or just the typical irritability of a crank on his favorite subject? Who knows? However the "reports" themselves of trouble in the Balkans had a familiar ring to me - and all-too-familiar, and obvious, implications. I certainly didn't want to leave any of you disappointed or unsatisfied.

Moreover the theme I expressed is one which I feel our European critics almost always fail to acknowledge or even consider in their equally familiar critiques of U.S. policy and actions. We have all sinned, and I believe it is unfortunate that Europe has become so complacent, forgetful and critical. A divide between us is widening: one that I believe will benefit no one.

However these are matters for another day. I am far too relaxed for it now.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 16 Jan, 2006 02:13 am
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Portuguese elections hit by phone-tapping scandal

By Elizabeth Nash in Madrid
Published: 16 January 2006
An illegal phone-tapping scandal in which more than 60 politicians and judges are embroiled has overwhelmed campaigning for Portugal's presidential elections next Sunday.

The outgoing socialist president Joao Sampaio and the former socialist prime minister Antonio Guterres are among those whose telephone calls are said to have been recorded during unauthorised investigations into a high-profile case of child sex abuse in the country's biggest orphanage.

Mr Sampaio, who has served two terms and will step down after the elections next Sunday, called in a televised address late on Friday for an urgent and rapid investigation into the phone-tapping allegations.

"Violations of ... private lives, through illegal phone tapping or other intolerable forms of intrusion in the private lives of the Portuguese cannot be allowed," Mr Sampaio told a shocked nation.

The state prosecutor's office reportedly tapped the telephones of more than 200 people and copied the conversations on to five computer disks. The disks were then put into a so-called "Envelope Nine" that was slipped into the case file on the Casa Pia paedophile case, according to Portugal's 24 Horas newspaper.

Such confidential recordings are supposed to be handed to the authorities only on the orders of a judge. The attorney general, Jose Souto de Moura, whose conversations were also reportedly tapped, denied the reports, but agreed to launch an inquiry.

"I think the story has extremely serious elements," Mr Souto de Moura said. "The most rigorous inquiry possible will be carried out which will investigate everything related to this case, and the necessary consequences will be drawn from its findings."

Rumours of widespread phone tapping have flourished throughout the Casa Pia child-sex scandal, which reaches to the top of Portugal's political and social elite. Those on trial since November 2004 over the sexual abuse of minors include a former ambassador, an MP and the country's best-known television presenter.

Many MPs are pressing for increased oversight of police wiretaps, which the authorities say average 8,000 a year. Portugal's judicial investigations are believed to be conducted in an unaccountable manner. For months, Mr Souto de Moura has been under pressure to resign over leaks from the investigation into the Casa Pia scandal.

The phone company Portugal Telecom supplied Casa Pia investigators with records of 79,000 calls made from 208 private phones between December 2001 and May 2002, 24 Horas reported. Portugal Telecom said it had handed over the records in 2003 following a court order, and had provided the phone numbers without the clients' names. But the newspaper said it found no warrants in the voluminous case files relating to Casa Pia that authorised the phone taps.

Main contenders in the presidential poll have treated the furore with kid gloves. Polls put the free-marketeering Anibal Cavaco Silva, 66, an admirer of Margaret Thatcher who was conservative prime minister from 1985 to 1995, far in the lead. Mr Cavaco kickstarted economic growth in Portugal, but entrenched gaping inequalities. The country continues to have Europe's widest economic inequalities.

The socialist warhorse Mario Soares, 81, trails a distant second, but in an interview in Madrid's El Pais newspaper yesterday he predicted that he would prevent Mr Cavaco from winning an absolute majority, and force a second round.
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