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Whiteness Studies

 
 
cavfancier
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:16 am
Okay, Set, first off it's "wimmins are evil" Razz or so said you, lol, and I do think that Calvin lightened up a lot after meeting Hobbes. Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:17 am
Yeah, i kinda liked Calvin after he hooked up with Hobbes (Thomas Hobbes, author of Leviathan, the other text that defined the world for the Anglo-Saxon Protestant).

I particularly liked Hobbes, because he was much in favor of smoochin' the girls . . .
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cavfancier
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:23 am
I tried Leviathin....bogus weight loss scam...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:23 am
Was Hobbs anything like Billy C? c.i.
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cavfancier
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:46 am
Setanta, one more point, why aren't you writing a book? Your knowledge and style would certainly get a lot of young people more interested in history...I'm still poring through A.J. Otway-Ruthven's 'A History of Medieval Ireland', but it is quite dry, and a slow read....
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Setanta
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 10:51 am
The Irish expect that those reading their history will prove to be slow readers . . . just come down to the local, stand a few rounds of porter, an' we'll explain it all to ye . . .
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cavfancier
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 12:27 pm
Heh heh, sounds good.
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Eva
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 03:40 pm
Great encapsulation, Setanta! Definitely worth the read.

However, I am still pissed that Australia got the convicts and we got the Puritans.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 03:46 pm
Eva, Depends on whose viewpoint. The American Indians and the aboriginies were both slaughtered pretty badly by both. c.i.
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Eva
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 04:48 pm
True. (sigh)
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nimh
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 07:48 pm
Mr Stillwater wrote:
And 'white'. Now, what the **** is that? [..] 'White' is a mental construct. 'White' is a way of life. 'White' is what your damn parents told you you were. Got zero to do with your genetic makeup.


Agree with all of that.

(Consider what is considered 'black' in the US vs what is considered 'black' in Cuba - fbaezer wrote about that. Though the far poles of very most white vs very most black are obviously visible enough, otherwise the definitions are extremely flexible, and in extreme measure determined by the respective cultures' context.)

'F course, the same goes for ethnic identity. What the **** is "Serb"? Or "Dutch", barring the passport and voting rights (i.e. as ethnic rather than political identity)? Every of these emotional allegions is, in the end, a collectively cultivated fiction.

No less powerful a determinator of every aspect of our societies, though, each of these. The fact that "whiteness" is not merely a function of genetic makeup is exactly what makes these kinds of studies so necessary. (Otherwise, the curriculum'd be short enough ..).
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 24 Jun, 2003 09:45 pm
We humans know how to make simple things complex. c.i.
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Booman
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 03:51 pm
A quote from the Book Of The Boo-"Life is simple, People are complex."
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sweetcomplication
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 04:32 pm
BOO, man!

Please allow me to riff on your book:

Life is simple, people have complexes ...

Love ya, Sweetie
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cavfancier
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 04:38 pm
Sometimes peoples have simplexes too....only the doctor knows for sure...

Booman, send me a copy of that book of yours....you are wise indeed.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 05:21 pm
Booman- If you have a 2nd copy lying around, send one my way! Very Happy
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sweetcomplication
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 05:43 pm
Nah, nah, nah; Booman has already sent me 2, count them, 2 autographed copies of the book!

It's very profound and difficult for us mere mortals to wade through, but once y'all get your copies, jump in: the water's fine!
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Booman
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 10:06 pm
Embarrassed

Jeesh Guys....You keep pumpin' me up like this, and my lazy butt might actually start gathering these thoughts and notes, and turning them into book form.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 25 Jun, 2003 10:42 pm
Yeah, Booman, count me in - six copies for me and my friends - all autographed, ofcoarse. c.i.
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cavfancier
 
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Thu 26 Jun, 2003 05:21 am
Just make sure the publisher gets the spelling right on the dust jacket so it doesn't come out as 'The Book of Poo'....that could be a disaster...
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