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In the End I’m Saved and You’re Not?

 
 
tomasso
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 11:33 pm
MOF, excuse me for missing this one:


Mindonfire wrote:
tomasso wrote:
Mindonfire,

I don't believe you can state your question so simply.
Only God can read your heart.


Is that right? How do you know that someone loves you?

I don't believe you can compare reading someone's heart
(knowing everything inside of that person such as thoughts,
convictions, etc.) with knowing if someone loves you. If you
want to look at it that way, OK, no, you may not truly know
if someone loves you, because they can do a good job of faking
it, hence my reference to hypocrites. However when it comes
down to the nitty gritty, like life and death situations, you can
be more sure of a person's heart in faith as well as in love.



tomasso wrote:
No other human can truly know
who is saved and who is not, there are just certain signs to go
by, but no one can truly know another person's heart.


True and False. No one truly knows who is saved. But yet, every Christian that you meet will tell you that they are saved and going to heaven. It is false that you state, "no one can truly know another person's heart." If that is the case then you are not able to know when someone loves or hates you?

I believe that every person has a pretty good idea about his or her
own heart. It's making claims about others that's not possible.
But granted, there ARE some people who are fooling themselves in
believing they are saved too.

tomasso wrote:
For example, it's true, there are hypocrites in church, I don't
think there are many Christians who deny that, but in the end
it will be God who sorts out the wheat from the chaff.


HOW?


How? If I knew that, I wouldn't be human. GOD KNOWS and he
will send his angels to separate us. You want to know HOW?
HE knows and that's good enough for me.
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Mindonfire
 
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Reply Tue 12 Dec, 2006 03:55 pm
tomasso wrote:
MOF, excuse me for missing this one:


Mindonfire wrote:
tomasso wrote:
Mindonfire,

I don't believe you can state your question so simply.
Only God can read your heart.


Is that right? How do you know that someone loves you?

I don't believe you can compare reading someone's heart
(knowing everything inside of that person such as thoughts,
convictions, etc.) with knowing if someone loves you. If you
want to look at it that way, OK, no, you may not truly know
if someone loves you, because they can do a good job of faking
it, hence my reference to hypocrites. However when it comes
down to the nitty gritty, like life and death situations, you can
be more sure of a person's heart in faith as well as in love.



tomasso wrote:
No other human can truly know
who is saved and who is not, there are just certain signs to go
by, but no one can truly know another person's heart.


True and False. No one truly knows who is saved. But yet, every Christian that you meet will tell you that they are saved and going to heaven. It is false that you state, "no one can truly know another person's heart." If that is the case then you are not able to know when someone loves or hates you?

I believe that every person has a pretty good idea about his or her
own heart. It's making claims about others that's not possible.
But granted, there ARE some people who are fooling themselves in
believing they are saved too.

tomasso wrote:
For example, it's true, there are hypocrites in church, I don't
think there are many Christians who deny that, but in the end
it will be God who sorts out the wheat from the chaff.


HOW?


How? If I knew that, I wouldn't be human. GOD KNOWS and he
will send his angels to separate us. You want to know HOW?
HE knows and that's good enough for me.


So, what type of church do you attend? It is rare to find a Believer to admits that no one knows who is saved until after the Judgement.
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