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RainSoft Water System Whole House

 
 
holzert
 
Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 05:05 pm
I have a rainsoft water system for the whole house connected our well. It worked fine when I first moved in 4 months ago, but now I have a high concentration of iron in the water. I have been putting salt in it regularly but never added RedOut salt because I didn't realize there was alot of iron in the water here. It was full of salt when I moved in and I didn't think to ask at the time. Is it ok to scoop out all of the salt tablets and refill it with redout salt tablets? Do I have to shut it down to do that or will it be ok for the few minutes necessary to replace the salt tablets?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 05:07 pm
H20Man will be along shortly.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 06:07 pm
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
holzert wrote:
I have a rainsoft water system for the whole house connected our well. It worked fine when I first moved in 4 months ago, but now I have a high concentration of iron in the water. I have been putting salt in it regularly but never added RedOut salt because I didn't realize there was alot of iron in the water here. It was full of salt when I moved in and I didn't think to ask at the time. Is it ok to scoop out all of the salt tablets and refill it with redout salt tablets? Do I have to shut it down to do that or will it be ok for the few minutes necessary to replace the salt tablets?

My guess is that you need a backwashing (daily) Acid Neutralizer installed ahead of your softener to catch as much as possible before it fouls the resin.

Red Out salt works great, but I advise my clients to make every 4th block or bag a Red Out. Don't use Red Out 24/7.
You can remove the salt in the tank, dump a bag of Red Out in and put your old salt in on top of that.

Find out what the Ph of your water is and it would be good to know what kind and how much Iron you have.

HTH ~
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 06:31 pm
Ahem... what did I say?
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NickFun
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 07:09 pm
H2O man, I drank heavy Arizona water for over a year right from the faucet. Am I going to die?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 07:11 pm
Don't f#ck with H2O_man, nick. He will strike you down.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 07:14 pm
NickFun wrote:
Am I going to die?


Sooner than you think ~
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holzert
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 09:12 am
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
H2O_MAN wrote:

My guess is that you need a backwashing (daily) Acid Neutralizer installed ahead of your softener to catch as much as possible before it fouls the resin.

Red Out salt works great, but I advise my clients to make every 4th block or bag a Red Out. Don't use Red Out 24/7.
You can remove the salt in the tank, dump a bag of Red Out in and put your old salt in on top of that.

Find out what the Ph of your water is and it would be good to know what kind and how much Iron you have.

HTH ~


Thank you. I will try that. However the portion on backwashing daily is confusing to me. Can it be easily done with the system I have? The controls are rather confusing. There are two tall tanks (slender) and each has it's own control panel and the tall storage unit for the salt tablets is actually a 3rd tank (tall rectangular).

Also, why not redout salt tablets 24/7?

TIA,
Tracy
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holzert
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 09:30 am
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
The only manual I have for the unit is:

Model 2510 & 2510 Econominder (this may be a Fleck system based on my web search)

There is the tall tank (The control unit on the top matches the one in the book for the 2510)

Another tall tank with an electronic brain control unit on top with a model number of AM24T (The label states RainSoft Electronic Brain)

The salt tank (tall, rectangular, green plastic)

A silver metal roundish oval shaped tank (don't know what it is for)

A small very dark green unit which has oxidizer written on it.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 11:43 am
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
holzert wrote:
The only manual I have for the unit is:

Model 2510 & 2510 Econominder (this may be a Fleck system based on my web search)

There is the tall tank (The control unit on the top matches the one in the book for the 2510)

Another tall tank with an electronic brain control unit on top with a model number of AM24T (The label states RainSoft Electronic Brain)

The salt tank (tall, rectangular, green plastic)

A silver metal roundish oval shaped tank (don't know what it is for)

A small very dark green unit which has oxidizer written on it.


Interesting. It sounds like you have a mixed bag of equippment.

Can you post pictures, or email me pictures of what you have?
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holzert
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 11:55 am
RainSoft Whole House System
Sure will.

Back in a few...

Ok, couldn't post the pictures for some reason so I emailed them to you.
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holzert
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 12:42 pm
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
I have scooped about 2/3rds of the salt tablets out and when I got that far down into the tall green plastic container, the remaining salt has turned into a solid rock of salt. Only salt has ever been put into it, no water. I can only see 1 thin black tube running from it into the tank with the RainSoft Electric brain on it.

Should it be wet in the salt container? It appears completely dry to me.

Should I pour hot water into the container in order to dissolve some of the salt?

I don't see any inlet into it, only what appears to be an outlet. Am I supposed to add water to the salt? No one ever mentioned that to me when I moved in - only adding salt tablets.

I have continued chipping away at the salt block formed - I can tell there is moisture down there somewhere...
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holzert
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 01:36 pm
Re: RainSoft Water System Whole House
I have managed to remove all of it. Now I am down to about 8" of a messy sludgy salt misture. Part pieces, part sludge but only only about 8" of liguid (all mixed together).

Should I continue to remove the sludge and pieces and if so, should I manually add water back into it (it is difficult to remove the sludge without removing the water as well).

How much water should be in the bottom?

Normally, do i only put enough salt tablets in to cover the water? (That would be about 1/3d full then - it is a tall receptable.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 05:53 pm
You have been very busy Cool

Clean the salt tank out as best you can. Add one bag of Red Out, and then two bags of the regular pellets.

Put the softener into manual regeneration.
If it is working properly it will automatically put a measured amount of water into the brine tank.

Confirm that the system added water, wait at least two hours, now put it into regeneration again.
This regeneration will draw a fresh brine solution and you will once again have soft water.

I replied to your email and the pictures you sent me.
We still have some work to do ...
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holzert
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 08:02 am
Thanks H2OMan! I will try to follow your instructions.
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holzert
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 10:26 am
One more question:

The fleck water softener has a manual regeneration method and so does the Rainsoft Electronic Brain. Should I manually start a regeneration on both at the same time? OR separately, or what? I started the Rainsoft manual regeneration BEFORE I realized that the water softener system had its own manual regeneration system (the Fleck 2510 Econominder). I turn the Fleck system on to manual regeneration about 1 hour into the Rainsoft's manual regeneration cycle. Hopefully, if I was wrong to do that, I have not damaged anything?

I also found out that the installation instructions state to put 3" of water in the bottom of the salt container but that doesn't seem like very much. Before I found that out, I had added about 8" of water and then put my salt tablets in until the covered the water entirely. Hopefully I am ok?
Rolling Eyes
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damid
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2007 07:50 pm
hi, i have added salt that i purchased from home depot, 2 fifty lb blocks to my rainsoft system. i set the alarm time to let me know about when it gets low. i set the correct time of day. i think that somewhere along the way i hit the regeneration button. did i f*** up, or did i do the right thing? PLEASE HELP! and should i regenerate again in an hour or two? thank!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2007 08:29 pm
holzert wrote:
One more question:

The fleck water softener has a manual regeneration method and so does the Rainsoft Electronic Brain. Should I manually start a regeneration on both at the same time? OR separately, or what?


I also found out that the installation instructions state to put 3" of water in the bottom of the salt container but that doesn't seem like very much. Before I found that out, I had added about 8" of water and then put my salt tablets in until the covered the water entirely. Hopefully I am ok?
Rolling Eyes


They must regenerate separately and don't let them overlap.

The water level will self correct - you are fine.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2007 08:30 pm
damid wrote:
hi, i have added salt that i purchased from home depot, 2 fifty lb blocks to my rainsoft system. i set the alarm time to let me know about when it gets low. i set the correct time of day. i think that somewhere along the way i hit the regeneration button. did i f*** up, or did i do the right thing? PLEASE HELP! and should i regenerate again in an hour or two? thank!


I would re check the settings, but there is no reason to regenerate back-to-back.
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damid
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2007 08:56 pm
rainsoft system HELP
Hi, after adding 2 blocks- 50lbs a piece, what do i need to do ? do i have to regenerate, or is there some buttons\ times that i may need to adjust? after adding salt i let the system know how many lbs that i put in. then i accidently regenerated the system. the timer say 2 hrs and 5 mins on it. what do i need to do, or not to do? Thanks Again. p.s. after adding the salt i noticed that the tank where the salt goes filled about half way up with water. or at least a quarter of the way.
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