Re: Go(o)d & (D)evil
peace wrote:Cyracuz wrote:The christian God is the personification of everything considered right and true.
The Devil is the exact oposite.
Curious that the words 'good' and 'evil' should be so closely linked to these creatures.
We know now, most of us, that good and evil are perspectives. They are like rainbows in that what you see depends on where you stand.
Wouldn't that also indicate that the personifications of these ideas are perspectives as well. God is the idea of 'the absolute good', an imagined singularity of function in which good is absolute, and not relative to evil.
Similarly the Devil is the perspective of absolute evil, not relative to good.
But such absolutes are a paradox, and the only solution can be that the two are relative to eachother, and that we see them as two different things because we're caught in the middle of it.
God and the Devil are both good. I brought this up a while back.
The Devil is good because it punishes the wicked. The Devil has no power to punish the good. Punishing wickedness is justice and justice is good.
The Devil is also an instrument used to root out evil through temptation. Jesus was tempted but did not succumb, and the Devil had no power over him. Those that succumb to evil are punished, which is a good thing.
Therefore the Devil is good. There is no duality between the Devil and God. The only rainbow that exists is the one between your free will and the good or evil it does.
Kind Regards
A couple of things to think about here peace:
#1 How can the devil be "good" when he has been called by God "The father of lies" as well as being out to kill steal and destroy?
#2 How is "punishment" good? If it was in fact "good" then why did God send Jesus to suffer the punishment for all mankind?
#3 If the devil is in fact "Gods instrument" to root out evil through temptation why is it he was "kicked out of heaven" for rebelling against God's will?
#4 Is God sitting on His throne rooting for the devil to punish the "wicked" for their disobedience? Is He happy about that? Once again... then what was the point of Jesus?
While I can see why you would believe what you believe here peace, I don't understand how you are missing the contradictions in the very things you, yourself, are saying.
Cyracuz wrote:No heph, Einstein didn't travel throught space to prove his idea any more that any rockband spreading their fame.
But his ideas are incorporated into countless applications of modern living, so his theories are well tested.
Quote:Dang... I hate it when you are right...
Grrrrr....
Oops. I try not to be right so much
But I do like it when you growl.. :wink:
Ok, so let me make sure I understand you here...
You are saying that since his "ideas are incorporated into countless applications of modern living, so his theories are well tested" therefore it is ok to believe it, though there isn't necessarily any physical proof of what he has said.
Hmmmm... You know what Cyracuz? There are many ideas of christianity that are "incorporated into countless applications of modern living so those "theories" are well tested" as well. So I guess we could say the same thing about that then too huh?
LOL You try not to be right so much? That is so very kind of you.
I guess you'll just have to be right more often then. :wink: